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In reply to the discussion: Remember the bank loan modification nightmare that cost millions their homes? BOMBSHELL: [View all]Divernan
(15,480 posts)146. Amazing that you presume to grant civil liberties to corporations/banks!
Last edited Sun Jun 16, 2013, 01:17 AM - Edit history (1)
You just love the Citizens United decision, right? Because you conflate prosecuting Big Banking with giving only lip service to civil liberties. Some might find your position amazing - but then they are not familiar with your long-standing, knee-jerk defense of any scintilla of criticism of Obama or his administration. Here's the deal and it's a very big deal, so try to keep up:
THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION AND LAWS GRANT CIVIL LIBERTIES TO INDIVIDUALS, NOT CORPORATIONS.
Liberties of the United States are certain inalienable rights retained by (as opposed to privileges granted to) citizens of the United States under the Constitution of the United States, as interpreted and clarified by the Supreme Court of the United States and lower federal courts.
Civil liberties are simply defined as individual legal and constitutional protections from entities more powerful than an individual, for example, parts of the government, other individuals, or corporations. The liberties explicitly defined, make up the Bill of Rights, including freedom of speech, the right to bear arms, and the right to privacy. There are also many liberties of people not defined in the Constitution, as stated in the Ninth Amendment: The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
Civil liberties are simply defined as individual legal and constitutional protections from entities more powerful than an individual, for example, parts of the government, other individuals, or corporations. The liberties explicitly defined, make up the Bill of Rights, including freedom of speech, the right to bear arms, and the right to privacy. There are also many liberties of people not defined in the Constitution, as stated in the Ninth Amendment: The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_liberties_in_the_United_States
And give an example where prosecution by the "U.S. government", i.e, Obama's Justice Department has or has not been a "slam dunk". I can think of problems the Justice Dept. has had with prosecuting medical marijuana growers, distributors and purchasers. Those pesky juries, state legislators and judges just won't get with Holder/Obama's program, will they? But let's talk about "too big to fail" interests - ya know - the ones with the lobbyists regularly bribing politicians with the big fat campaign contributions. What Holder was really thinking when he said "too big to fail" was "too big a contributor to the guy who appointed me to be prosecuted".
Of course, neither Holder nor Obama nor you can quote any section of any state or federal l law which excludes perpetrators on the grounds that they are "too big to fail" or recognizes a defense of "too big to fail".
Given the evidence detailed in the OP, and speaking as a retired government attorney and law professor, I say yes, prosecuting the Bank of America is a slam dunk.
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Remember the bank loan modification nightmare that cost millions their homes? BOMBSHELL: [View all]
dixiegrrrrl
Jun 2013
OP
People Seriously Need To See the Inside Of a Jail Cell Over This Stuff, Ma'am
The Magistrate
Jun 2013
#1
If anyone does, it'll just be low-level minions. The real crooks hobnob with Holder and Obama.
MotherPetrie
Jun 2013
#3
I would be happy if enough "little people" simply stop using the big banks.
dixiegrrrrl
Jun 2013
#12
I have a relative who works for a competitor and she's never seen anything like this.
pnwmom
Jun 2013
#19
The last time that a Democratic governor ordered Illinois govt agencies to stop doing business with
AnotherMcIntosh
Jun 2013
#38
Thank you for that tid bit of news. SO glad banks are still losing customers.
dixiegrrrrl
Jun 2013
#82
I never mind waiting at my community bank.. and they recognize my voice when I call them
SoCalDem
Jun 2013
#133
We need another Bank Transfer Day, where folks switch from banks to credit unions.
Zorra
Jun 2013
#85
That will only happen if we all leave these banks. Find your local credit union.
lindysalsagal
Jun 2013
#118
Sorry. Our government will decide that a fine of $3.30 will sufficiently penalize BofA.
Kablooie
Jun 2013
#49
The way it can change (although not likely til things hit bottom) is to demand,
Dustlawyer
Jun 2013
#88
We KNEW it, didn't we? All along we kept saying this is what they were doing.
dixiegrrrrl
Jun 2013
#4
This is truly a bombshell. But how much do you want to bet it sinks into oblivion and no one is
Squinch
Jun 2013
#5
He'll do it just as soon as he puts Bush/Chaney/Rice/Rummy on trial as a war criminals.
Auntie Bush
Jun 2013
#27
Holder could act today if he gave a flying fuck at a rolling doughnut about anything
Bluenorthwest
Jun 2013
#80
"You must miss payments to qualify for loan adjustments." This was said across the country.
Fire Walk With Me
Jun 2013
#44
Typical - you put the burden on individual homeowners, not Obama's Justice Department.
Divernan
Jun 2013
#147
Anyone who has lost home to BOA because of HAMP, should check out your link.
dixiegrrrrl
Jun 2013
#32
Does anyone else notice that the "Obama Club" doesnt show up for these types of threads? nm
rhett o rick
Jun 2013
#48
Oh plez. This post isnt about outrage and isnt critical of the president. nm
rhett o rick
Jun 2013
#93
I noticed. I think they only go into action when the polls show that an issue might hurt him. ;)
reformist2
Jun 2013
#100
I don't believe consumer deposits are that critical to them at this point.
TheKentuckian
Jun 2013
#143
My friend was one of the people lied to about her loan modification request, not by BOA, by Wells
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#60
This is par for the course; we are in year THREE of battling with Wells Fargo.
VPStoltz
Jun 2013
#81
I'll bet you a million dollars they didn't lose s#@t. They threw them away. They don't
okaawhatever
Jun 2013
#112
And Where Is Obama And His Justice Department Over This Continuing Scandal?
cantbeserious
Jun 2013
#127
Take big-donor money out of campaigns to keep the corporate-sponsored candidates out of office.
pacalo
Jun 2013
#128
However, the Obama/Holder/Geithner Administration let us know some time ago
truedelphi
Jun 2013
#140