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allin99

(894 posts)
81. the only reason dems need to hold the admin responsible is so that on these issues...
Mon Jun 17, 2013, 10:37 PM
Jun 2013

the dem party actually stays to the left, or that there is even part of the dem party that will continue to stand against bush's FISA, Patriot act, etc. Which now of course, is no longer something the dem party concerns itself with. The party will be fine no matter what, there's only 2 viable parties, where are people gonna go, and they know that and that's why they can get away with this cr-p. It's our rights that will be lost, we the people will lose, but the parties will be just fine.

that's why i don't understand the numbers of people here not only defend the nsa but spend time vilifying the mssger, even to the point of pushing back on people who question and disapprove of surveillance tactics, all in order to protect the admin and the party. What are people thinking..the party has billions of dollars, has millions and millions of strictly partisan voters, mass media, have incredible amounts of power... it's we the people, and the issues that will suffer if people do not hold the admin (and that goes for any admin) responsible.

I know I'm not voting for him next time NightWatcher Jun 2013 #1
Not worried about him. How damaging is this to Democrats running for Congress in 2014? nm rhett o rick Jun 2013 #39
young people don't really care that much... allin99 Jun 2013 #76
Me neither! Tarheel_Dem Jun 2013 #51
I'm not voting for him either in 2016. muntrv Jun 2013 #59
It will really be funny when Eric Cantor and Joe Biden are President and Vice President in 15 graham4anything Jun 2013 #2
Doesn't work that way. HooptieWagon Jun 2013 #6
Do you think they will stop with Obama? And Cantor/Ryan have wanted to overthrow Boehner for years graham4anything Jun 2013 #8
You don't know what you're talking about. HooptieWagon Jun 2013 #14
Why would they stop with one. And they would NEVER confirm a new VP in time. graham4anything Jun 2013 #18
They don't have Biden targeted in any scandals. HooptieWagon Jun 2013 #21
What polls? It would be Jan. 2015, and there would be no election for 2 years. graham4anything Jun 2013 #24
It would take a year to impeach Obama. HooptieWagon Jun 2013 #36
Please re-read. I said Jan. 2015. After the 2014 are over. Not now. graham4anything Jun 2013 #40
No. A new Congress is just getting sworn in in Jan 15. HooptieWagon Jun 2013 #49
People support it because in the real world, 3000 people died on 9-11, and it stopped commerce 10yrs graham4anything Jun 2013 #53
1859? backwoodsbob Jun 2013 #72
The Republicans are going to impeach Pres Obama. He has incorporated Republicans rhett o rick Jun 2013 #42
Hell, the Democratic Party is going to lose a lot of voters if they don't do something about this. reformist2 Jun 2013 #3
Oh please, less of the vapors ..we are a couple weeks into a non-scandal pkdu Jun 2013 #4
Brilliant! 99Forever Jun 2013 #17
I can tell you exactly how it'll work out. Marr Jun 2013 #32
Before getting worked up , I like to wait for pesky stuff like evidence....so far from Snowden pkdu Jun 2013 #34
Hmmmm. 99Forever Jun 2013 #38
Wow "you guys" ... Some on here would call that comment "mission accomplished" for good old pkdu Jun 2013 #44
It's pretty obvious ... 99Forever Jun 2013 #50
Would love to hear the "extremely obviously" theme expanded on given you and I haven't ever pkdu Jun 2013 #54
Golly... 99Forever Jun 2013 #56
a non-scandal marions ghost Jun 2013 #25
As Snowden himself says...he's disappointed by the lack of public reaction...he is not pkdu Jun 2013 #27
I didn't catch that quote from Snowden marions ghost Jun 2013 #66
His disappointment was in "Media response" not public directly. pkdu Jun 2013 #69
"The mainstream media" marions ghost Jun 2013 #70
LOL. I agree. Nothing to see here, keep moving. rhett o rick Jun 2013 #43
Too late, but it's not Obama it's the party that's screwed now. nt Demo_Chris Jun 2013 #5
Yep, if Dems want to remain viable they have to hold Obama accountable. HooptieWagon Jun 2013 #11
And quickly. nt Demo_Chris Jun 2013 #15
Accountable for what? Proud Liberal Dem Jun 2013 #58
Accountable for secrecy and lack of transparancy in NSA surveillence program. HooptieWagon Jun 2013 #71
the only reason dems need to hold the admin responsible is so that on these issues... allin99 Jun 2013 #81
And us young people will go RUNNING to the GOP.... PennsylvaniaMatt Jun 2013 #7
Who knows where they will go. dkf Jun 2013 #12
You must be one of those... Wait Wut Jun 2013 #13
Haha! PennsylvaniaMatt Jun 2013 #20
Gratz on the graduation! Wait Wut Jun 2013 #28
Thank you! PennsylvaniaMatt Jun 2013 #31
Ahhhh... Wait Wut Jun 2013 #35
Thanks! PennsylvaniaMatt Jun 2013 #37
Cool! treestar Jun 2013 #60
Exactly. Anybody remember Fast & Furious? Tony Rezko? Rev. Wright? Benghazi? IRS? These all... Tarheel_Dem Jun 2013 #55
Yep. Chained CPI, escalating Afghanistan treestar Jun 2013 #62
"When will they really leave? " Tarheel_Dem Jun 2013 #85
No, but I heard there's a game called "Grand Theft Auto 5" for PS4 starring Darrell Issa coming out, Major Hogwash Jun 2013 #67
!!! Tarheel_Dem Jun 2013 #84
I'm confident in this president. This too shall pass. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2013 #9
Clinton lost me. Wait Wut Jun 2013 #10
Well you are of course entitled to your opinion that its people over 35 that are over represented dkf Jun 2013 #19
I thought he pretty much lost young people after 2008 burnodo Jun 2013 #16
young people hadn't figured it out at that point and clearly... allin99 Jun 2013 #79
The Democratic "brand" sure isn't secret surveillance & smearing DirkGently Jun 2013 #22
He's not running again. Also, people forget. You'll see. Honeycombe8 Jun 2013 #23
and there will be 11 million new democratic voters in a few years. graham4anything Jun 2013 #29
this alone shows its the same old/same old as to which side people are on. I ain't fooled graham4anything Jun 2013 #26
Young voters are not loyal voters...they will go elsewhere or stay home davidn3600 Jun 2013 #30
That explains why I'm still on the fence: I'm 45 arcane1 Jun 2013 #33
ah, the Ron Paul / Rand Paul thingy. NO President Obama supporter would vote for that. graham4anything Jun 2013 #45
80-20 would be absolute tyranny davidn3600 Jun 2013 #46
Imagine the senate/house voting 80-20. How many wonderful things will get done. graham4anything Jun 2013 #48
With the current majority? Wonderful? davidn3600 Jun 2013 #52
Yes, I think you have a good point MindPilot Jun 2013 #47
Shouldn't you do the poll first before announcing the results? eom treestar Jun 2013 #64
CNN Poll: Majority give Snowden thumbs down ProSense Jun 2013 #41
How dare you post that Prosense? treestar Jun 2013 #63
So 52% disapprove of Snowden? Well, according to the CNN poll, 54% disapprove of Obama. MotherPetrie Jun 2013 #78
zing! burnodo Jun 2013 #82
You mean he's going to lose in 2016? treestar Jun 2013 #57
I am very sad about it... Lefty Nast Jun 2013 #61
President Obama, you mean. He is the President, so use that term, please, not just "Obama". Major Hogwash Jun 2013 #65
Not good. He's already lost old people NV Whino Jun 2013 #68
what does he care? And even if he WERE running in an election... allin99 Jun 2013 #73
Well. I don't really think he'll be running again. Vanje Jun 2013 #74
This message was self-deleted by its author allin99 Jun 2013 #75
Well I guess that means they won't vote for him in his third term still_one Jun 2013 #77
Yeah like they came out in droves in the last election........... Historic NY Jun 2013 #80
Obama is more or less a lame duck fujiyama Jun 2013 #83
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