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Warren Stupidity

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30. it applies to "the people".

Reply to Skidmore (Reply #16)

Tue Jun 18, 2013, 10:59 AM

Jun 2013

When the constitution intends to apply to, for example, citizens only, it says so. "the people" is just that.

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Under what circumstances is spying acceptable or essential and why? [View all] Skidmore Jun 2013 OP

Do you mean warrantless surveillance of the citizens of your own country? Warren Stupidity Jun 2013 #1

Do Warrants make a difference? nt el_bryanto Jun 2013 #9

uh yes they do, please read the clear wording of the 4th amendment. Warren Stupidity Jun 2013 #22

Thank you - but the recent prism issues may well have had Warrants el_bryanto Jun 2013 #27

read the clear unambiguous wording of the 4th amendment. Warren Stupidity Jun 2013 #29

No, I mean spying. Period. Skidmore Jun 2013 #12

sure it is necessary in an appropriate context. Warren Stupidity Jun 2013 #24

I could see doing it for a time immediately after 9/11 justiceischeap Jun 2013 #2

DON'T YOU WORRY YOUR PRETTY LITTLE HEAD ABOUT IT. sibelian Jun 2013 #3

If you could contain your snark and give a reasoned response, it would be welcomed. Skidmore Jun 2013 #7

Tsk. sibelian Jun 2013 #14

The circumstances that generates spying would seem to include HereSince1628 Jun 2013 #4

When it involves *reasonable* suspicion of wrongdoing. Pholus Jun 2013 #5

Thank you for your thoughtful analysis which is the type of Skidmore Jun 2013 #10

I really appreciate your post so much. It deserves its own thread. KittyWampus Jun 2013 #36

Well said LondonReign2 Jun 2013 #37

It is always rude, and always intrusive. bemildred Jun 2013 #6

Having ruled friends out, is it ever acceptable to use with enemies? Skidmore Jun 2013 #8

We are spying on everybody, not just enemies. bemildred Jun 2013 #11

That's what enemies are for telclaven Jun 2013 #32

When investigators have probable cause. Has something changed? reformist2 Jun 2013 #13

Easy. When it doesn't violate this: 99Forever Jun 2013 #15

So does this apply only to citizens? Does it apply only within our boundaries? Skidmore Jun 2013 #16

You type faster than me! (nt) Jeff In Milwaukee Jun 2013 #18

All the information needed, is... 99Forever Jun 2013 #19

These are still legitimate questions. Skidmore Jun 2013 #20

I am being spied on. 99Forever Jun 2013 #21

So your interests are completely limited to you. Skidmore Jun 2013 #23

There's a couple hundred MILLION "MEs"... 99Forever Jun 2013 #35

it applies to "the people". Warren Stupidity Jun 2013 #30

That covers a lot of it... Jeff In Milwaukee Jun 2013 #17

The term "spying" is too broad. JoePhilly Jun 2013 #25

Thank you for your reasoned response. I do believe that on DU Skidmore Jun 2013 #26

I think the drill down into details is important because ... JoePhilly Jun 2013 #28

cyber warfare. Whisp Jun 2013 #31

Why do you need to ask? We have lots of laws that cover legitmate spying on enemies. sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #33

It's fine when it is directed at "other people" Aerows Jun 2013 #34