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In reply to the discussion: What we have here ... [View all]sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)telephone co. is logging every call I make, to whom I make it, what time I made it and storing for possible future use.
In order to do that, we are told, they got a warrant. To get a warrant, we know that they must show probable cause of wrong doing. So what did I do wrong that enabled this warrant to be issued? I want to see what was presented and to what court that allowed them to do this without my consent or knowledge.
You are correct, we are not giving up freedoms, they are being taken and when we find out, we are told it is for 'our own good'. How chilling, that some Private Security Corporation decides what is good for us! That secret courts are rubber stamping requests like this. That members of Congress are gagged from telling us what they know, and in the case of many of them, oppose.
He also said that 'we cannot have 100% security WITHOUT giving up SOME of our freedoms'. Maybe they should ask us first no? I don't and never did expect to be 100% secure. So I don't need to give up even a teeny, weeny freedom, because even the teeniest one was fought for by people who gave their lives to preserve it. We don't want to have to go through that again.
And what are we being protected from?? Terror? How about preserving the lives of the 44,000 Americans who die every year from something that could easily be fixed, lack of Health Care. Spend the money being spent on logging calls on them and many American lives would be saved. If saving lives was what they are concerned about.
And if saving lives was the concern, why did they not use this convoluted system they are trying to explain, to get the Boston Bombers? They knew about one of them, even talked to him, watched him for two years, yet apparently were unable to find out who HE was calling. But they know who millions of innocent Americans are calling? Is there any logic in this? No, not for anyone who is capable of a minimal amount of logical thinking.