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In reply to the discussion: I truly get it, I really do see why people turn to faith in order to find their moral compass... [View all]Manifestor_of_Light
(21,046 posts)71. Jesus, really????? Are you kidding????
Just a few examples out of HUNDREDS in the Bible:
From the GOSPEL of LUKE:
God strikes Zacharias dumb for doubting the angel Gabriel's words. 1:20
"How shall this be, seeing I know not a man?"
Just a few verses earlier (1:17-20), Zacharias is struck dumb for doubting his wife's angel-assisted pregnancy. Why wasn't Mary punished for her disbelief? 1:34-35
Those who fail to bear "good fruit" will be "hewn down, and cast into the fire." 3
"Be content with your wages" -- no matter how unjust they may be. 3:14
John the Baptist says that Christ will burn the damned "with fire unquenchable." 3:17
Peter and his partners (James and John) abandon their wives and children to follow Jesus. 5:11
Jesus cures a paralytic by forgiving his sins, thereby proving that he is God (since only God can forgive sins) and paralysis is caused by sin. 5:18-25
Jesus says that people who are rich, well-fed, happy, or respected are going to hell. 6:24-26
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There are many, many more examples of Jesus and his injustice and cruelty.
It's quite possible to have morality without any gods. And to do good without expecting a reward.
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I truly get it, I really do see why people turn to faith in order to find their moral compass... [View all]
WCGreen
Feb 2012
OP
What basis do you offer for humans who once lived in nature without laws, to create a society that
jody
Feb 2012
#2
I'll record your post as unable to prove the cited assertion. Have a great evening. nt
jody
Feb 2012
#20
Why must people without faith believe that they can or should do what they want without consequences
LiberalFighter
Feb 2012
#30
What about those who don't believe in a higher power and believe take what you can
RegieRocker
Feb 2012
#36
The fiction is you believing that mans laws remain constant. The moral teachings of the bible do
RegieRocker
Feb 2012
#58
That was a war fought between countries that all had near total religious belief
muriel_volestrangler
Feb 2012
#67
However, "For country (tribe) is mans morals" is an unsupported statement. You got to be kidding
RegieRocker
Feb 2012
#69
My point was that with or without faith there will always be bad apples and you should have known
RegieRocker
Feb 2012
#57
What about those that DO believe in a higher power and still take what they can?
progressoid
Feb 2012
#54
faith is not about finding a moral compass. it's about rationalizing a moral compass.
unblock
Feb 2012
#3
Faith is important. We probably go insane w/o it. You have faith that the engineers
rhett o rick
Feb 2012
#5
But then again we live in a pluralistic society where there are all sorts of ways
WCGreen
Feb 2012
#9
Nor does it make a better person that has no answers to question "who created everything?"
RegieRocker
Feb 2012
#37
If that came across as insulting, I am sorry. It is only because of my inability to express myself
rhett o rick
Feb 2012
#31
No I am not perfect, I just don't have to worship a sky-being to keep from going bonkers.
Warren Stupidity
Feb 2012
#45
When they decide for other people, who may not agree with how those folks think...
CaliforniaPeggy
Feb 2012
#15
You know, I am not sure a person of a deep, abiding and true faith actually CAN lead a nation.
renie408
Feb 2012
#18
"Man is the only animal to have discovered the One True God.....several of them." Mark Twain
Tierra_y_Libertad
Feb 2012
#21
You mean like people who kill abortion doctors, like Dr. Slepian and Dr. Tiller?
Manifestor_of_Light
Feb 2012
#73