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In reply to the discussion: What we have here ... [View all]stevenleser
(32,886 posts)"Snowden revelations".
If you didn't immediately think this was brand new information, if you didn't immediately think Obama was betraying you, if you sought to understand how we got here and look at the facts to determine whether Obama made this better or worse, you were labeled an authoritarian and a fascist and that was it.
Now, of course, if you are attacked like that, most people are going to attack back.
What I did, since I have a radio show, is I spent a few days researching the issue as much as possible, then talked about it on my show and released the transcript here. http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022981244
None of the folks here including the OP, who think that this is such a big deal and its horrible and if you don't agree you are an authoritarian, could refute any of the facts I talked about on my show. You can read the OP and see the replies. Neither the OP here or any of the folks who say they agree with her could refute any of the facts I listed. That's because that is what they are, facts. They're not hyperbole, they aren't fear mongering, they're not ad-hominem attacks on fellow DUers, they aren't projection of fear of the government from decades past, they are facts.
But while the OP and others who agree with her on DU couldnt refute the facts I laid out, that did not stop them from continuing to label me and those who agree with me "authoritarians" as she has done again here in her OP.
They didnt stop to think that, hmm, yunno, if you cant refute the facts put out by the folks who you disagree with, you might be on shaky ground as far as your own position is concerned.
So, here we are. We have the folks like the OP and their supporters who have been attacking and labeling their fellow DUers who disagree with them as authoritarians from day one and whose argument is 30%-50% based on fear and supposition. And you have me and the folks who agree with me whose position is based on facts that are generally unassailable.