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In reply to the discussion: What we have here ... [View all]Summer Hathaway
(2,770 posts)is yet another simple-minded assessment of things, whereby everything is either black or white, no shades of gray exist anywhere, with a HEAVY dose of the "you're with us or against us" attitude we all despised during the Dubya years.
"Is not a conflict between those who love the POTUS, and those who hate him."
You're right, it's not. I'm sure there are those who actually do love Obama, and certainly there are those who hate him. But the vast majority of people don't even come close to thinking in those terms. They support Obama on some issues, and not on others. People agree with his actions anywhere from 100% of the time to 0%; the percentage for most people is somewhere in between those two ends of the spectrum.
"There is some of those who believe Obama could walk on water, make wine from water, and feed the multitudes from one loaf of bread."
This is the popular myth among a certain contingent, that Obama supporters are basically mindless idol-worshippers. And a myth it is, with no basis in reality - as anyone who actually participates in real life knows.
"But truly this is a conflict between constitutionalists, who know freedom can be risky, and have one risks to it, and those who prefer to live under an authoritarian state."
And there we have it, yet again: the absolute bullshit declaration that these are the only two types of people engaging in discussion - about the NSA, or any other topic - along with the black-and-white, simpleminded, self-serving characterization of brave, risk-taking freedom-fighters up against timid, mealy-mouthed authoritarian-lovers.
"So the lesser of two evils will not be effective for much longer."
Here's a news flash for you: The vast majority of people who voted for Obama (both in 2008 and in 2012) did not drag themselves reluctantly to the voting booth in order to elect what they perceived to be "the lesser of two evils". They campaigned for the man they believed was the right man for the job - and they did so knowing that there would be times when they disagreed with his policies. Mature people DO understand that one man is not going to please all of the people all of the time, themselves included, and actually expect that to be the case.
"I gotta wonder how many others have figured out that voting is really not going to be the major saving difference that we were promised?"
Well, I'm not sure what alternatives you think are viable - but you are free to pursue them. Maybe you can start by dividing the populace into your cutesy little categories, and try to appeal to the sensibilities of those who love the Constitution as opposed to those who don't care about it, which seems to be how you think these things line up. That BS will undoubtedly play well in your black-and-white world here on a message board - in the real world, not so much.