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JustAnotherGen

(31,631 posts)
32. But who started the culture war
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 11:19 AM
Jun 2013

I'm the daughter of a man who did not feel it was safe to move back to Talladega Alabama with his white wife and two bi-racial children after distinguished military service as a US Army Captain and Green Beret -


In 1978.
It really did NOT come from the media. It started when I was 3 years old and living in Weisbaden, West Germany. A guy was running for President in 1976. His name was Ronald Reagan. He related to a group of Mississippi Voters the story of this welfare queen . . . from the 'South Side of Chicago'. South Side of Chicago in 1976 AND now is code word for 'black people'. It came from ONE side and ONLY ONE SIDE that did it - the Republicans. They've told this lie over and over and over and over again.

It's the 'reality' that many white Americans know - REGARDLESS of their region. They believe it. And they are the power structure in the South. You have pockets of liberalism and inclusion - but Atlanta and Austin aren't enough to make the change.

There are moves to disenfranchise minorities going on in the south. I wait and hold my breath that the SCOTUS is not going to send ALL of us to the back of bus. But if they let the 'South' have their way - that's what is going to happen . .. to all of us. Check out what went down in Philadelphia this past Presidential Election. It's like a 1956 time warp.

There is also a move from ONE side - NOT the media - to undo what the Civil Rights Era DID. And that was to assert the authority of the Federal Government. And their efforts are already working - have you seen who my Governor is lately? And what he stands for? And who voted for him? It's a very Everyone For Themselves State of Mind in NJ lately.

Point blank - I'm supporting someone other than Booker in our Primary as a matter of principle. No doubt - he (Booker) will win the General Election. I will be canvassing and making calls for both he and Barbara Buono (Gov Race - solid progressive - knows first hand poverty and working ones way up from it). If I knock on the door and show your map in Camden, Newark, Jersey City, the Oranges, Atlantic City - I will get the door slammed in my face.

It won't work to get Booker elected to the US Senate - and I need to be able to sneak Buono info in on that canvassing. It won't resonate to a poor black single mother living in Jersey City. It simply won't.

You know how you are on a plane - and the flight crew is giving safety information. And they tell you about the oxygen masks?

Put yours on your face first and then help others. Well -I'm doing AOK in this economy. Seriously. So I first have to turn to the people in the seat next to me and help them get their oxygen masks on. Then I can move up the front of the plane and help those folks.

I truly believe poverty has to be addressed in the WEALTHIEST states in order to provide a roadmap for the poorer states. We have the means to help those down the road from us and in the 'shadows' of wealth. We can do it WITHOUT needing ANY help from members of the House or Senate from the South that might for instance -

Want to attach rules around school lunch programs and backpack programs (food for the weekend) about gender roles being taught in the classroom. Or prayer taught in the classroom. Or limiting abortion rights for teachers in public schools while making rules that they must be fired if they have a child out of wedlock.


We can do it here without the onus of the Moral Majority and Christian Coalition. And until the South realizes that Christie and Scott Brown aside - we are rejecting anything to do with God and Morality in the public sector in our neck of the woods -it's going to be very hard to come to agreement.


I'm not saying what you have posted is a pipe dream. I just don't think it can happen Right Now - at this minute. It's just not going to happen. I supported Edwards in 2008 because he actually said the word Loud and Proud: Poverty. But without a champion for it Nationally - I can't wait for that . . . I've got hungry people coming to the Bound Brook NJ Food Bank this Saturday and I've got to worry about my neighbors first. I'm sorry.

People are people. nt ZombieHorde Jun 2013 #1
In 2016 the vast majority of the country will vote for Hillary and will turn blue graham4anything Jun 2013 #2
Stop it. Just stop it! They will not vote for Hilary or any other democrat in the deep south. madinmaryland Jun 2013 #42
the generation is over.Women in record numbers will indeed vote for Hillary in the south. graham4anything Jun 2013 #43
I am a woman. Blue_In_AK Jun 2013 #48
See, you will vote for her in a race vs. Jeb Bush(and I hope the same against anyone repub.) graham4anything Jun 2013 #53
But hopefully it will not be that choice. Blue_In_AK Jun 2013 #68
I live in Oklahoma Floyd_Gondolli Jun 2013 #50
It took a generation just to get to the point LBJ was talking about. We still have another madinmaryland Jun 2013 #57
If Dr. King and LBJ were as pessimistic, we would still be living in 1859 graham4anything Jun 2013 #59
What the hell are you talking about. Wasn't it Abraham Lincoln that moved us into the post-1859 madinmaryland Jun 2013 #61
500 plus electoral vote with 125 million popular votes you mean. graham4anything Jun 2013 #62
You again provide an evenings worth of amusement... madinmaryland Jun 2013 #67
I think many will vote for Hillary. My daughter-in-laws family are dems but they hate southernyankeebelle Jun 2013 #79
Why is that, rrneck? rdharma Jun 2013 #3
Who is "they"? nt rrneck Jun 2013 #4
The red spots on your map. rdharma Jun 2013 #6
Concentrations of poverty. There's a link to the CDC. nt rrneck Jun 2013 #7
I know! nt rdharma Jun 2013 #9
A fine example of what I'm talking about. rrneck Jun 2013 #8
Huh? rdharma Jun 2013 #10
Unfortunately, you're not. nt rrneck Jun 2013 #12
Right To Work WovenGems Jun 2013 #26
This!!!!! get the red out Jun 2013 #28
Exactly! rdharma Jun 2013 #46
Recommended. (nt) NYC_SKP Jun 2013 #5
One thing about FDR; in spite of his wealth he could empathize. Uncle Joe Jun 2013 #11
Just.... WOW alittlelark Jun 2013 #13
"get to work solving problems", OK I'll get right on that, LOL Corruption Inc Jun 2013 #14
+1,000!!! The poor are more likely to fall for the TV brainwashing which displaces their anger, Dustlawyer Jun 2013 #15
the democratic party has abandoned poor people, and I wouldn't exactly call this a liberal website. liberal_at_heart Jun 2013 #16
You got that right. Dawgs Jun 2013 #20
+1 nt rrneck Jun 2013 #25
Amen to both points. n/t QC Jun 2013 #30
Clinton and the Third Way threw the poor under the bus, LuvNewcastle Jun 2013 #33
That's how the GOP likes it BainsBane Jun 2013 #17
Blaming the GOP rrneck Jun 2013 #23
So what are WE doing that causes poverty in the South? ieoeja Jun 2013 #52
I don't have one. rrneck Jun 2013 #55
I love Southerners MannyGoldstein Jun 2013 #18
We can't right now. LuvNewcastle Jun 2013 #34
watch us get rid of Republican rule in VA carolinayellowdog Jun 2013 #49
They do not want our help. geek tragedy Jun 2013 #19
Thanks for lumping all of us together. Dawgs Jun 2013 #21
And mostly Democratic Senators, with the Republicans they do elect geek tragedy Jun 2013 #22
A fine libertarian attitude that. nt rrneck Jun 2013 #24
Sorry, but the Democratic Senators excuse is lame and you know it. Dawgs Jun 2013 #31
Nope JustAnotherGen Jun 2013 #39
yeah, like poor people are voting Texasgal Jun 2013 #66
I can't demand people vote a certain way JustAnotherGen Jun 2013 #27
We're all in the same boat. rrneck Jun 2013 #29
But who started the culture war JustAnotherGen Jun 2013 #32
You're doing good work and goodonya for it. rrneck Jun 2013 #37
I don't think this is condescending JustAnotherGen Jun 2013 #38
Heh. I was raised Southern Baptist. rrneck Jun 2013 #40
I was raised Southern Baptist too! JustAnotherGen Jun 2013 #41
I rail about the 1% as much as anybody and they deserve it. rrneck Jun 2013 #47
It isn't because those states are hording all the money. ieoeja Jun 2013 #54
They obviously aren't doing enough. rrneck Jun 2013 #56
It doesn't tell the whole story JustAnotherGen Jun 2013 #65
I agree. rrneck Jun 2013 #69
I have a question JustAnotherGen Jun 2013 #35
For some of us who were around in the 60s it feels like we have to do it all over again. Or maybe it jwirr Jun 2013 #36
Where conservatives live and actively oppress "the other", poverty reigns supreme SoCalDem Jun 2013 #44
And here I thought we were "one nation ..." Bake Jun 2013 #45
"...probably hailed from a blue state." Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2013 #51
Thank you! Lunacee_2013 Jun 2013 #58
Sounds like your grandma would be pretty cool to hang out with. nt rrneck Jun 2013 #60
Please remember Ronnie Ray Gun DonCoquixote Jun 2013 #63
Very true. Population density figures large in the dynamic. nt rrneck Jun 2013 #64
Virginia is weird on this map: most people rich, most places poor carolinayellowdog Jun 2013 #70
THat map can be overlaid on a number of others MNBrewer Jun 2013 #71
....chewing tobacco.... Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2013 #72
I grew up in rural Georgia MNBrewer Jun 2013 #74
A friend of mine had a brother visit from Pascagoula Mississippi,... Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2013 #78
How in the world can the counties in SD that comprise Pine Ridge not be deep red? KamaAina Jun 2013 #73
very poor, but very few people, so concentration is low? MNBrewer Jun 2013 #75
But the portion of the Navajo reservation in northeast AZ is dark red KamaAina Jun 2013 #76
WIthout a doubt Pine Ridge is known for poverty. MNBrewer Jun 2013 #77
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