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Response to rrneck (Reply #37)

Thu Jun 20, 2013, 12:43 PM

38. I don't think this is condescending

How do you get poor white people to admit they're poor white people who need help? Don't be condescending. We give the political right the best weapon they have, and they use it well. They accuse us of being elitist ivory tower jerks out of touch with the reality of people's lives, and we give them examples to point at every day
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It's a fair question.


Those same people have NO problem attacking a poor black or latina teenager as the 'problem' - as not having 'worked for it'. As being 'less deserving'.


They have to admit it - if you are a poor white christian single 19 year old in a rural southern town - you gotta admit that you are NOT more deserving than anyone else in this country regardless of race, religion, region.



See - I SEE the groups as 'one'. But I'm not so certain they see my former pregnant teenager, now single mother of caucasian/black/Puerto Rica ethic background 19 year old neice the same. Or her daughter - who is cute as a button. And just as deserving as the blond haired blue eyed little southern girl.

And I had a similar discussion with my dad in 2008. He wanted to applaud the 'no red America or Blue America' nonsense Obama was spouting. It doesn't work for me. It doesn't work for a lot of people.

I applaud your efforts and I think we both agree: Poverty is a serious issue. And it's one attached to so many and that if we don't get ahead of this - then we ARE in decline.

I just disagree with a Federal Solution. We've had a Federal Solution called 'welfare reform' (the move to SNAP and TANF, etc. etc. in the mid 1990's) and guess what -

It hasn't worked.

Same folks get marginalized. Same bullshit stereotypes about blacks - and now that is being expanded to latinos/hispanics. And no one is getting pulled up.


There isn't a Federal Solution that can be done. Maybe I'm 40 and old and tired and cynical - and I'll take those words on the chin. Because it's true. I'm cynical. I have more faith in my State Senator to Trenton than I do a Saxby Chambliss or Lindsay Graham. I just do. I also have more faith in that State Senator than I do Bob Menendez on this issue - and I love Bob Menedez!


And - if you go back and read your OP - it's kind of critical of folks who've just been 'hurt' by the South and what they exported to the rest of the country. If someone spits in your eye enough - and makes you the face of evil . . . sooner or later - you start to lose feeling for them. Indifference isn't bad - sometimes it leads to calm heads that do no implicit harm to one another.


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