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In reply to the discussion: You want "Nixonian"? This, right here, this is Nixonian, if Nixon had grown up in East Germany [View all]DirkGently
(12,151 posts)36. Please explain the ACLU's GOP "magic racism dust" to us.
"This dragnet program is surely one of the largest surveillance efforts ever launched by a democratic government against its own citizens," said Jameel Jaffer, ACLU deputy legal director. "It is the equivalent of requiring every American to file a daily report with the government of every location they visited, every person they talked to on the phone, the time of each call, and the length of every conversation. The program goes far beyond even the permissive limits set by the Patriot Act and represents a gross infringement of the freedom of association and the right to privacy."
The ACLU is a customer of Verizon Business Network Services, which was the recipient of a secret FISA Court order published by The Guardian last week. The order required the company to "turn over on 'an ongoing daily basis' phone call details" such as who calls are placed to and from, and when those calls are made. The lawsuit argues that the government's blanket seizure of and ability to search the ACLU's phone records compromises sensitive information about its work, undermining the organization's ability to engage in legitimate communications with clients, journalists, advocacy partners, and others.
"The crux of the government's justification for the program is the chilling logic that it can collect everyone's data now and ask questions later," said Alex Abdo, a staff attorney for the ACLU's National Security Project. "The Constitution does not permit the suspicionless surveillance of every person in the country."
The ACLU is a customer of Verizon Business Network Services, which was the recipient of a secret FISA Court order published by The Guardian last week. The order required the company to "turn over on 'an ongoing daily basis' phone call details" such as who calls are placed to and from, and when those calls are made. The lawsuit argues that the government's blanket seizure of and ability to search the ACLU's phone records compromises sensitive information about its work, undermining the organization's ability to engage in legitimate communications with clients, journalists, advocacy partners, and others.
"The crux of the government's justification for the program is the chilling logic that it can collect everyone's data now and ask questions later," said Alex Abdo, a staff attorney for the ACLU's National Security Project. "The Constitution does not permit the suspicionless surveillance of every person in the country."
http://www.aclu.org/national-security/aclu-files-lawsuit-challenging-constitutionality-nsa-phone-spying-program
The argument you are making is a lie.
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You want "Nixonian"? This, right here, this is Nixonian, if Nixon had grown up in East Germany [View all]
nashville_brook
Jun 2013
OP
Telling us there are whistleblower protections while instituting this program is insulting.
dkf
Jun 2013
#1
Just a fucking minute. This is spinning into another quantum level of pure stupidity.
Buzz Clik
Jun 2013
#2
whistleblowing vs leaking -- how does this dynamic not smack of the loyalty trope?
nashville_brook
Jun 2013
#5
That was a quote from the David Frost interviews a couple of years after resignation.
Zen Democrat
Jun 2013
#118
An online tutorial titled "Treason 101" teaches Administration employees to recognize... spies
nashville_brook
Jun 2013
#17
What information, when disclosed, constitutes a crime against "The United States?"
DirkGently
Jun 2013
#19
this is beyond creepy and the worst part is it makes me want to agree with republicans when they see
NoMoreWarNow
Jun 2013
#121
Well the government is too big, but I wouldn't jump on their bandwagon too soon...
rwsanders
Jun 2013
#135
conveniently undermines government functions while funding sequestration does its job
nashville_brook
Jun 2013
#117
It's fun to think that this is about some kind of courageous act of whistleblowing.
ucrdem
Jun 2013
#31
There are connections aplenty for anyone with eyes. Here's a few to get you started:
ucrdem
Jun 2013
#48
It's been plastered all over DU since WaPo Guardian launched this baloney. Start here:
ucrdem
Jun 2013
#47
it's fun to think being a true partisan believer is some kind of courageous
nashville_brook
Jun 2013
#56
the enforcers are actually always those in the hottest seat: a self-consuming system can produce
MisterP
Jun 2013
#97
Yep. Complete with lies, CYA statements, and the pursuit of the whistle blower.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Jun 2013
#28
Ask President Kennedy. Oh yeah, he was murdered in the street at midday for opposing war power.
Zen Democrat
Jun 2013
#93
Good point. I think Godwin's law is really implied anytime one compares someone to a
stevenleser
Jun 2013
#102
but...it's racism! it's a GOP plot! it's a bird it's a plane...it's Super Strawman!
nashville_brook
Jun 2013
#89
the inconvenient truth about civil liberties is that while folks might trust Obama like a brother
nashville_brook
Jun 2013
#116
Hilarious hyperbole. The only thing this will achieve is to scuttle dialogue on this issue.
stevenleser
Jun 2013
#76
Hey speaking of hyperbole did your coworker Rachel ever come up with that
Bluenorthwest
Jun 2013
#98
I posted it. It's up to you to decide. I'm not responsible for other journalists' claims or what you
stevenleser
Jun 2013
#99
Pierce has written a lot on Obama, and I don't think he has been uniformly positive at all
NoMoreWarNow
Jun 2013
#122
well, I really doubt (at this point) that Obama is doing anything just to anger his liberal base
NoMoreWarNow
Jun 2013
#128
i thought 1984 would be fully implemented under a republican president but i was wrong
madrchsod
Jun 2013
#119
if this is allowed to continue, it will be "fully implemented" beyond imagination
nashville_brook
Jun 2013
#120
but I learned here on DU that Obama was not conducting any "war on whistleblowers"?
NoMoreWarNow
Jun 2013
#126