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JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
49. It says a lot about people which they choose to remember...
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 01:15 PM
Jun 2013

Is it

a) a third party candidate who ran a legal and clean campaign, and whose share of the vote made no difference whatsoever, given that even in Florida, more votes were cast for Gore than for Bush;

or

b) election fraud by the losing side to steal Florida, followed by a judicial coup d'etat to suspend constitutional process and thus give the presidency to the losing side.

Anyone who focuses on a) as a primary concern, or who distorts its significance, has made their decision to condemn a trivial non-conformity while ignoring historic criminality. I suspect denial has everything to do with it. Most people would rather blame their troubles irrationally on some powerless hippies than confront the reality of the Evil Empire in which they live.

Gore lost his home state quinnox Jun 2013 #1
what the supreme's did was illegal and shouldnt have been allowed leftyohiolib Jun 2013 #20
That's not fair karynnj Jun 2013 #22
Because he wasn't pro gun. n/t Peregrine Took Jun 2013 #31
I think that you are close. AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2013 #60
Bingo proud2BlibKansan Jun 2013 #69
There are a million what-if's, of which Nader is one Recursion Jun 2013 #2
You got there first: Gore won Florida! The Filthy Five on the SC stole it from Gore and Mr Gore did byeya Jun 2013 #5
No one held a gun to Gore's head and forced him to concede. Gore chose to HardTimes99 Jun 2013 #8
Time is sequential. onehandle Jun 2013 #3
Exactly....Also this is not the Ralph Nader appologist underground. we can do it Jun 2013 #7
Excuse me, Ralph Nader has the same right to run HardTimes99 Jun 2013 #15
Fuck Nader. This country wouldn't be so fucked up if he hadn't stayed in the race. we can do it Jun 2013 #23
So Hillary should have run third party and handed to election over to Palin? onehandle Jun 2013 #34
nor is it the ralph nader hater forum frylock Jun 2013 #45
There are many steps between your steps 3 and 4. Did you forget the HardTimes99 Jun 2013 #9
That would go between 2 and 3. Same results. Nader elected Bush. onehandle Jun 2013 #12
Um. Step 3-A. Notorious anti-semite Pat Buchanan gets 4,000 Jewish votes, thereby HardTimes99 Jun 2013 #18
sounds like Nader's number 3 robbed Gore of his right to number 2 markiv Jun 2013 #32
Very Important step before your Step One. bvar22 Jun 2013 #39
That's nice. And yes. It was Nader. onehandle Jun 2013 #40
Your "Time is sequential" mantra... bvar22 Jun 2013 #44
I'm gonna get a "Time is sequential" tattoo - it'll complement the one that says "Moom" byeya Jun 2013 #54
Some things are crimes. JackRiddler Jun 2013 #74
Yeah, but he elected George W. Bush. onehandle Jun 2013 #76
No, but he was the only progressive who purposely worked to assist Bush against Gore. pnwmom Jun 2013 #4
Gore did not 'lose' the election. Gore received more votes than Bush, both HardTimes99 Jun 2013 #6
you never hear these same people thanking Perot for 1992 markiv Jun 2013 #10
Hear, hear! - nt HardTimes99 Jun 2013 #11
Thank you, Ross Perot. onehandle Jun 2013 #13
i've never heard them complain about perot nt markiv Jun 2013 #27
The Clinton economy eventually healed their wounds. onehandle Jun 2013 #28
the titanic rose, before it sank, too markiv Jun 2013 #30
WOW.... Nader must be a SUPERMAN! bvar22 Jun 2013 #41
Did you vote for Perot? Wow. I didn't but Ross sure was right about NAFTA wasn't he? byeya Jun 2013 #14
he was right about NAFTA and all it stood for, we've heard the sucking sound of globalism markiv Jun 2013 #26
Man,. you've got that right. And you're not even talking about TPP which may be worse for workers byeya Jun 2013 #36
there's a reason the 2 parties LOVE gay and abortion issues markiv Jun 2013 #37
yes. this is the reality RainDog Jun 2013 #38
excellent response markiv Jun 2013 #42
I agree with you here too. I think that there are a few(or more) backroom Democratic strategists who byeya Jun 2013 #43
another excellent response nt markiv Jun 2013 #46
Perot is much harder to judge hfojvt Jun 2013 #55
'with a clear conscience' markiv Jun 2013 #56
nobody is demanding anything hfojvt Jun 2013 #58
'go ahead and help Republicans win'->a page from Orwell's 'Animal Farm' markiv Jun 2013 #61
I am not pitching anything hfojvt Jun 2013 #66
'They are very much real. ' markiv Jun 2013 #67
I've heard RWs claim that lots of times creeksneakers2 Jun 2013 #64
At this point...they need the two minutes of hate nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #16
Nailed It. bvar22 Jun 2013 #48
Thank you. Nader's vote count was insignificant, relative to the votes that Reagan/Bush Democrats Zorra Jun 2013 #17
Sanity. Thank you. magellan Jun 2013 #24
actually, bush democrats greatly exceeded the number of nader voters noiretextatique Jun 2013 #47
No, people were pissed off at Clinton because of NAFTA RainDog Jun 2013 #19
People were pissed because Clinton got a blow job and they didn't. Get the facts straight. we can do it Jun 2013 #25
a fucking preposterous and simple minded view.. frylock Jun 2013 #52
NAFTA, MFN-China, H-1b visas markiv Jun 2013 #33
The Florida "Democrats" issue was looked at after 2000 karynnj Jun 2013 #21
I see, so by this logic... JackRiddler Jun 2013 #50
Not following you - of course those who voted for Bush are responsible that Bush karynnj Jun 2013 #62
Florida was rigged. Bush himself said "We'll win in FL. You can bet on it." While sitting next to Fire Walk With Me Jun 2013 #29
Clinton ushered in the Democratic pro-free trade/Globalist era markiv Jun 2013 #35
It says a lot about people which they choose to remember... JackRiddler Jun 2013 #49
Nice analysis. kentauros Jun 2013 #70
Thanks. JackRiddler Jun 2013 #73
Of course, he wasn't alone hfojvt Jun 2013 #51
Al Gore and George Bush cost Ralph Nader the election in 2000. Dash87 Jun 2013 #53
Gore lost Florida because he didn't attract enough votes. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #57
If the votes for Nader in FL cost Gore the election... Jarla Jun 2013 #59
Those who blame Nader ... GeorgeGist Jun 2013 #63
That's exactly the point reasonable people are trying to make: Gore won Florida and the Supreme byeya Jun 2013 #68
Same finger pointing creeksneakers2 Jun 2013 #65
I call *BS* on this whole thread. Admiral Loinpresser Jun 2013 #71
Always be suspicious of people that give our democracy lip service. Rex Jun 2013 #72
I voted for Gore but his pandering for votes at the expense of Elian Gonzalez turned me off. randome Jun 2013 #75
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