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hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
23. maybe because you expect an enemy to work for your defeat
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 01:42 PM
Jun 2013

you don't expect a friend to betray you.

You know, Nader was supposed to be a guy on the side of the people, on the side of the environment.

Then he helps to elect Bush.



The whole point of blaming Nader is so that in the future, people who care about progressive causes won't cut off their nose to spite their face by voting 3rd or 4th party and helping Republicans win. You know, so instead of losing by 48.1% to 48%% to 3%, we could win 51% to 48.1%. Although we won 53% to 46% in 2008 and that did not do us much good.

But the huge loss in 2010 certainly didn't help.

And for all the complaints I have about Obama, I am quite sure that McCain with a Republican Congress would be much, much, much worse.

How about we try winning back the House instead of arguing about Nader or promoting 3rd parties here?

I'm just going to sit here Autumn Jun 2013 #1
me too noiretextatique Jun 2013 #3
BTW...Nadir is a republican. n/t BlueToTheBone Jun 2013 #2
i knew it! noiretextatique Jun 2013 #4
oh c'mon nader haters noiretextatique Jun 2013 #5
they'd rather ignore al gore's crummy campaign or the fact he actually won and gave up nt msongs Jun 2013 #6
Well, his other choice was taking up arms nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #7
yep...and just look at how great that turned out noiretextatique Jun 2013 #8
You make decisions on what you know at the momemt nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #9
me too...it is inevitable noiretextatique Jun 2013 #20
Bush and Nader voters have the same blame. gulliver Jun 2013 #10
STOP. THIS. NOW. OilemFirchen Jun 2013 #13
Rec AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2013 #31
i hold bush voters accountable too noiretextatique Jun 2013 #15
Or the so-called ray gun democrats still_one Jun 2013 #26
F**k them both (see how easy that was). JoePhilly Jun 2013 #11
sure is easy noiretextatique Jun 2013 #17
Thank You. Jennicut Jun 2013 #28
I am going to take up the cause of George HW Bush: If it weren't for Ross Perot and his 19% of the byeya Jun 2013 #12
LOL noiretextatique Jun 2013 #18
Actually, 3rd parties are bad all the time. great white snark Jun 2013 #25
actully there is literally no evidence that Perot cost Bush any state outside of NJ dsc Jun 2013 #32
what's with all the nader posts all of a sudden? arely staircase Jun 2013 #14
nope...crazy scotus decisions noiretextatique Jun 2013 #16
Fuck Nader... SidDithers Jun 2013 #19
cogent, well-thought out argument noiretextatique Jun 2013 #21
It's what the OP deserved...nt SidDithers Jun 2013 #24
The fact is Nader cost Gore votes. Yes Nader had the right to run and I will defend that, but... hrmjustin Jun 2013 #22
maybe because you expect an enemy to work for your defeat hfojvt Jun 2013 #23
"How about we try winning back the House instead of arguing about Nader or promoting 3rd parties" great white snark Jun 2013 #27
two things are 100% true with a third add on bonus graham4anything Jun 2013 #29
Elana Kagan is one of the best Obama nominations - IF YOU FAVOR ELIMINATING THE MIRANDA RULE AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2013 #33
Two minutes of hate are predictable nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #30
Well said. Thanks for saying it so clearly and forcefully. AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2013 #34
Nader enables repukes. Zoeisright Jun 2013 #35
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