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proverbialwisdom

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168. What a flair for the dramatic.

Reply to BehindTheCurtain76 (Reply #159)

Wed Jun 26, 2013, 03:51 PM

Jun 2013

Widely applicable and astute observation spoken aloud yesterday albeit in another context...

"...Sticking your head in the sand might make you feel safer, but it’s not going to protect you from the coming storm. And ultimately, we will be judged as a people, and as a society, and as a country on where we go from here."

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Michael Hastings and conspiracy theories: Richard Clarke throws fuel on the fire [View all] marmar Jun 2013 OP

scary samsingh Jun 2013 #1

I've never been happier with my 92 Volvo with 239,000 miles. FourScore Jun 2013 #71

Mine's eight years older, US made, but with only ninety thousand miles...~! MADem Jun 2013 #153

Perhaps if the car has a LoJack or similar device ... otherwise, no REP Jun 2013 #2

Lojack? that's just a GPS unit. Onstar could have unlocked his doors though grantcart Jun 2013 #4

My unit will disable the car REP Jun 2013 #11

Especially since an autopsy that showed him in perfect health pnwmom Jun 2013 #19

Holy Toledo, grantcart!! Trying to hijack this spooky conspiracy tale with a Lojack comment!! Major Hogwash Jun 2013 #58

The car was a Mercedes. They have a lot of GPS technology loaded in the car. yardwork Jun 2013 #17

My car is a 'fancier' car than his; I know the technology REP Jun 2013 #37

HMMMV? ReRe Jun 2013 #47

You know the technology? FreeBC Jun 2013 #114

he was murdered BehindTheCurtain76 Jun 2013 #34

Tee hee REP Jun 2013 #39

Really? That's an ugly comment. n/t FourScore Jun 2013 #68

This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2013 #152

You're 11 years late, but thanks REP Jun 2013 #162

Thank you for that report Car and Driver! ReRe Jun 2013 #50

Wellcome to DU... zeemike Jun 2013 #55

Thank you for the article. If they can kill people from thousands of miles away, I believe Richard sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #69

Welcome to DU, BehindTheCurtain76! FourScore Jun 2013 #70

Welcome! Good post. Just disregard the smug, small minded, douche and/or paid you may run into here. In Truth We Trust Jun 2013 #72

I think so also. Even a car nut truedelphi Jun 2013 #95

I hope you do enjoy your stay. zeeland Jun 2013 #104

Welcome to DU. 1monster Jun 2013 #116

Thanks for the information MissDeeds Jun 2013 #117

Thanks for the info. janlyn Jun 2013 #124

Thanks for the info. My Prius has all sorts of things that are controlled by computer cui bono Jun 2013 #125

thanks heaven05 Jun 2013 #127

Welcome to DU!! summer-hazz Jun 2013 #137

welcome warrprayer Jun 2013 #146

Drone technology has been around for much longer than 1996. MADem Jun 2013 #154

proof? BehindTheCurtain76 Jun 2013 #159

I believe his friends and family, and the Sargent who was so concerned about his behavior, his fear, sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #161

Don't go making declarations when you don't know, is all I'm saying. MADem Jun 2013 #163

What a flair for the dramatic. proverbialwisdom Jun 2013 #168

Published by the NYT 'OPINIONATOR: Exclusive Online Commentary From The Times' on June 14, 2013. proverbialwisdom Jun 2013 #169

I appreciate your commentary and it makes me wonder zeeland Jun 2013 #172

Welcome to DU. AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2013 #166

Not according to DARPA mhatrw Jun 2013 #61

well heaven05 Jun 2013 #129

Oh, crap. truebluegreen Jun 2013 #3

K & R !!! WillyT Jun 2013 #5

If they want you, they're going to get you. MrSlayer Jun 2013 #6

I agree and summer-hazz Jun 2013 #139

Car hacking was also attested to by a program manager for DARPA. Video: leveymg Jun 2013 #7

Why anyone thinks this is laughable is beyond me. Good info to know. ~nt 99th_Monkey Jun 2013 #15

Holy crap. And I thought something like Ilsa Jun 2013 #46

Are all cars now computerized? ReRe Jun 2013 #54

Check out this thread dflprincess Jun 2013 #8

That is fascinating. Richard Clarke is one person, whose opinion Autumn Jun 2013 #9

He's one of the few people I'd trust too. Auntie Bush Jun 2013 #23

At least most of what Clarke says can be researched and verified. bearssoapbox Jun 2013 #62

Have you ever read his book "Against All Enemies"? Autumn Jun 2013 #66

I read "The Scorpion's Gate." It read like it was written by someone who'd been there NBachers Jun 2013 #87

This message was self-deleted by its author NBachers Jun 2013 #87

Ditto elleng Jun 2013 #78

HuffPo & Mike Hogan are overlooking or ignoring this key quote to conflate a conspiracy theory - pinto Jun 2013 #10

Clarke is probably right about that. But he also said this: Autumn Jun 2013 #12

So in other words think Jun 2013 #57

no you are BehindTheCurtain76 Jun 2013 #51

Sorry, but CIA doesn't just call people's friends and "interview" them like that. Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #93

This message was self-deleted by its author BehindTheCurtain76 Jun 2013 #156

ok BehindTheCurtain76 Jun 2013 #158

Actually, he did say FBI ohheckyeah Jun 2013 #112

ok BehindTheCurtain76 Jun 2013 #157

Because maybe it wasn't the FBI, maybe Clarke knows they are not likely to be involved in sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #79

Subject line in his email said FBI Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #94

As we found out during the Bush era, there were many factions in the FBI, and a denial from sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #96

And when the LAPD and coroner finishes their investigation Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #97

You should be more worried about the general loss of faith by the American people, across sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #98

I agree with you about the Iraq War and Wall Street Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #99

You "think" summer-hazz Jun 2013 #143

+1000 heaven05 Jun 2013 #131

what?? heaven05 Jun 2013 #130

Too sadly true allinthegame Jun 2013 #128

Who said anything about FBI? KamaAina Jun 2013 #160

K&R n/t glinda Jun 2013 #13

But one cannot ignore prior plausibility. longship Jun 2013 #14

There is nothing strange about the circumstances treestar Jun 2013 #16

Do you repeat that over and over in a dark room? nm rhett o rick Jun 2013 #108

Notice how quiet it is about Hastings? No one ever reported if it was KoKo Jun 2013 #18

Well, you do pose some good questions. senseandsensibility Jun 2013 #21

Some Big Wig at Buzz Feed..(founder or something) just left KoKo Jun 2013 #27

Well, even if it was an accident, this time, letting people think it was not, is likely to create a sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #73

this is far too suspicious from the moment it happened xiamiam Jun 2013 #22

Agree and we know more about the Kardashian Sisters minute to minute KoKo Jun 2013 #30

I have said we need to know what he was doing that night before the accident. Cleita Jun 2013 #31

We haven't even heard where he stayed in LA..when he arrived..and thanks KoKo Jun 2013 #36

Well, let's see how long it is until even a mention of Hastings here relegates a thread to the CS silvershadow Jun 2013 #32

Quiet... ReRe Jun 2013 #59

RE: Suicide by belt justiceischeap Jun 2013 #106

KoKo, plez take two big drinks from the denial kool-aid and repeat after me: rhett o rick Jun 2013 #109

He wasn't living in VT. He moved to LA last OCT to work in the MADem Jun 2013 #164

A Creepy K & R nt 99th_Monkey Jun 2013 #20

So... Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #24

Because a shooting doesn't look like an accident? Hissyspit Jun 2013 #26

This message was self-deleted by its author Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #28

I don't mean to be crude or insensitive...but that accident was so horrible KoKo Jun 2013 #38

Actually forensic pathology has made huge advancements Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #65

There was at least enough to identify him. Incitatus Jun 2013 #75

They have to test out all these new weapons somewhere? sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #74

This is AWFUL!!!11!11(one)!!1!! Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #80

Michael Hastings' Panicked, Final Email Hissyspit Jun 2013 #25

Why did he say "Buzzfeed GQ" think4yourself Jun 2013 #33

Er, inside joke? proverbialwisdom Jun 2013 #118

I hadn't read this before: sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #86

Modern cars are 'computers on wheels'... no hacking concerns? alittlelark Jun 2013 #29

DARPA bobduca Jun 2013 #40

Now "cash for clunkers" makes sense! (n/t) thesquanderer Jun 2013 #35

Q: Where'd all the GLBT cars come from? blkmusclmachine Jun 2013 #44

So What About Planes?..... global1 Jun 2013 #41

You are forbidden to make that connection. blkmusclmachine Jun 2013 #45

Yes. There could be an accident.......nt Enthusiast Jun 2013 #107

Bingo BehindTheCurtain76 Jun 2013 #48

I had the same thought. sulphurdunn Jun 2013 #53

Pilot episode : The Lone Gunmen. March 2001 Ichingcarpenter Jun 2013 #90

The comptroller of the Pentagon, Mr. Dove built them AnotherDreamWeaver Jun 2013 #111

+1. Totally possible. blkmusclmachine Jun 2013 #42

Check out what OnStar can do. blkmusclmachine Jun 2013 #43

It looks like murder to me! mc51tc Jun 2013 #49

Who do you think murdered him? Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #64

The possibility of carhacking is the scariest thing I've heard of in my life time. Auntie Bush Jun 2013 #52

Someone posted this link a couple of days ago.."Boston Brakes".. truth2power Jun 2013 #56

So,....why do cops still do car chases if they can just be shut off? Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2013 #60

If there is such technology, it would take time before it gets to the cops. The military has weapons sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #76

Remember this? Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2013 #82

Airwolf would have ended that chopper in about 3 seconds. AtheistCrusader Jun 2013 #135

Roy Scheider vs Jan Michael Vincent?? Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2013 #138

There are a bunch of incredibly terrible youtube videos that play this scenario out. AtheistCrusader Jun 2013 #140

All done by fans of the TV show. Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2013 #144

Ever seen Bait Car? bunnies Jun 2013 #115

facts in a CT thread?..heresy backwoodsbob Jun 2013 #81

I'm an evil bastard. Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2013 #83

Because they'd get their asses sued off by all the people injured in the resulting wreck n/t eridani Jun 2013 #91

The stationary car surrounded by patrol cars with sirens wreck? Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2013 #100

What stationary car? eridani Jun 2013 #105

The yellow tab is your friend. Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2013 #121

I saw a report ohheckyeah Jun 2013 #113

I see a fondness for classic cars in our future. Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2013 #119

I agree - wish I had my first car back. n/t ohheckyeah Jun 2013 #120

Not me,...it was a 65 Biscayne station wagon with plywood on the floor to cover the holes.... Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2013 #122

This was my first car: ohheckyeah Jun 2013 #133

The chicks love this one. Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2013 #141

LOL ohheckyeah Jun 2013 #142

The Plot Thickens colsohlibgal Jun 2013 #63

Personally, I don't think you should've changed the title of the article from objective to mocking. proverbialwisdom Jun 2013 #67

Interesting sudden acceleration article womanofthehills Jun 2013 #77

There was a book published in the 90s about this and many other potential problems eridani Jun 2013 #92

Back in the seventies, CB radios would mess with the cruise control. MindPilot Jun 2013 #123

k and r. time to get a bicycle. bbgrunt Jun 2013 #84

No hacking needed there, just ye olde hit-and-run. JHB Jun 2013 #148

K&R avaistheone1 Jun 2013 #85

I don't do conspiracy theories; I think Oswald acted alone JenniferJuniper Jun 2013 #89

It would be interesting to further explore the angle your expertise gives you. Democracyinkind Jun 2013 #101

Has the car been determined? Rental? Democracyinkind Jun 2013 #102

His car, either owned or leased, not a rental. It was a gasoline powered Mercedes C Class. MADem Jun 2013 #155

All car now have computers in them. That is all manufactured after the mid 80's. Lint Head Jun 2013 #103

I believe in conspiracy theories. I know that some here in DU think that CT rhett o rick Jun 2013 #110

Either way... summer-hazz Jun 2013 #147

I agree anything is possible. But if I was intending to kill someone, I wouldnt rely on making the rhett o rick Jun 2013 #151

A lot of you apparently still haven't seen this: snot Jun 2013 #126

There have been reports that cars today can do that. He was driving a Mercedes KoKo Jun 2013 #170

Read the article; this is not a "report that cars can do that"; it's a fact: snot Jun 2013 #171

Shift transmission to neutral. HooptieWagon Jun 2013 #132

Not necessarily. AtheistCrusader Jun 2013 #136

clark mtasselin Jun 2013 #134

We might know the truth in 50 years warrprayer Jun 2013 #145

to reasd later snagglepuss Jun 2013 #149

Just bought our first new cars in 20 years.. mountain grammy Jun 2013 #150

Michael Hastings was not working on Jill Kelley story, wife says. proverbialwisdom Jun 2013 #165

Interesting..info..! KoKo Jun 2013 #167