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former9thward

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74. You are the one smearing Mandela by saying anyone who flees authority is a coward.

Wed Jun 26, 2013, 08:08 PM

Jun 2013

That is what you originally said. Then you shifted the goalposts. You said he never left. He did leave so now you shift the goalposts even more. You no longer are in the same stadium. What Mandela did was entirely correct. No one fighting oppression should have a suicidal desire. Snowden is doing exactly the same. It is much easier to rally your supporters from out of jail than in it for life.

Your posts have become a pretzel of logic. When you say anyone who flees is a coward you are saying Mandela is a coward. A new low from the Smear Machine. What new smears are you going to have tomorrow? Can't wait.

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Who is a bigger hero? Wendy Davis or Edward Snowden [View all] Renew Deal Jun 2013 OP

i don't consider Snowden a hero at all JI7 Jun 2013 #1

Neither do i Jeneral2885 Jun 2013 #15

Excuse me, but what are you rambling on about? Gravitycollapse Jun 2013 #18

Yea brucefan Jun 2013 #81

I think Wendy is a hero, Snowden, not so much so I didn't vote. justiceischeap Jun 2013 #24

a big +1! n/t Lady Freedom Returns Jun 2013 #26

I don't either Glorfindel Jun 2013 #58

Davis. Dawson Leery Jun 2013 #2

Can't we all just be friends again? Democracyinkind Jun 2013 #3

Hero's don't run. nt hack89 Jun 2013 #4

Heroes stand and fight. aquart Jun 2013 #10

Yes - thank you Wendy Davis. nt hack89 Jun 2013 #22

So when Nelson Mandela went underground he was a coward? former9thward Jun 2013 #46

Nelson Mandela spent 27 years in prison nt hack89 Jun 2013 #51

Right like Snowden he was facing life in prison. former9thward Jun 2013 #53

Also Daniel Ellsburg went underground right after the NYT published the Pentagon Papers. n/t PoliticAverse Jun 2013 #61

I suggest you review your history hack89 Jun 2013 #63

He fled. former9thward Jun 2013 #64

He stayed in his country to fight oppression hack89 Jun 2013 #70

Actutally he didn't. former9thward Jun 2013 #72

So he was a coward and had to be ordered home to fight? Don't think so. hack89 Jun 2013 #73

You are the one smearing Mandela by saying anyone who flees authority is a coward. former9thward Jun 2013 #74

Mandela did not run away. The distinction is clear to most. hack89 Jun 2013 #76

"Snowden is no Mandela" former9thward Jun 2013 #78

Mandela showed moral strength at an early age. hack89 Jun 2013 #79

Even when they're wearing running shoes! csziggy Jun 2013 #47

No contest at all. MineralMan Jun 2013 #5

Here's a Big Hero MineralMan Jun 2013 #6

And here's a baloney sammich. MineralMan Jun 2013 #11

Wendy ranks with the Chinese guy staring down the tank bigbrother05 Jun 2013 #7

.... handmade34 Jun 2013 #28

That's a bit much Renew Deal Jun 2013 #33

Note my recognition of the physical risk difference bigbrother05 Jun 2013 #87

Snowden is a criminal not a hero Godhumor Jun 2013 #8

Elie Wiesel was a criminal too, until he wasn't anymore... mike_c Jun 2013 #14

just gets silly comparing Snowden to Eli Wiesel, Rosa Parks etc JI7 Jun 2013 #20

where did I compare Ed Snowden to Wiesel or Parks...? mike_c Jun 2013 #23

Two posts up Renew Deal Jun 2013 #35

reading comprehension isn't what it used to be.... mike_c Jun 2013 #43

Apparently Renew Deal Jun 2013 #48

what part of that statement do you disagree with? mike_c Jun 2013 #57

is it more silly than calling snowden a traitor? frylock Jun 2013 #66

Yeah, right. They're EXACTLY THE SAME!!! baldguy Jun 2013 #21

and you missed the point entirely.... mike_c Jun 2013 #25

Snowden's a self-serving douchebag. Wiesel, Parks, King, Scopes, TR, Ellsberg, Sullenberger are not. baldguy Jun 2013 #32

you've spoken to him about that? mike_c Jun 2013 #41

You've seemed to have been seduced by your own preconceptions, saying he's a hero & all. baldguy Jun 2013 #45

and you're still making stuff up.... mike_c Jun 2013 #52

not only that but he probably made things worse for the people of China JI7 Jun 2013 #44

i'll just bet you know from self-serving douchebags frylock Jun 2013 #68

Nelson Mandala was a criminal before he was a hero. avaistheone1 Jun 2013 #80

who is the greater hero: Rosa Parks or Theodore Roosevelt? mike_c Jun 2013 #9

Stupid poll. Gravitycollapse Jun 2013 #12

Snowden quinnox Jun 2013 #13

Snowden also has pissed off the most powerful nation on earth with his neck on the line NoOneMan Jun 2013 #60

this level of nonsense is just embarrassing to see. cali Jun 2013 #16

I thought you had lost all ability to be embarrassed. MjolnirTime Jun 2013 #89

I think they both did the right thing. My heros are dead. Autumn Jun 2013 #17

??? sibelian Jun 2013 #19

At least someone understands me Renew Deal Jun 2013 #37

if this is a joke it's a good one, flypaper in fact carolinayellowdog Jun 2013 #83

Who do you think would be a better president - her, or Obama? (nt) The Straight Story Jun 2013 #27

Do we actually know anything about her? Renew Deal Jun 2013 #40

Well in Texas she is very well known as fighting for us MagickMuffin Jun 2013 #65

lets elect her President so we can compare them JI7 Jun 2013 #42

Apples and oranges Marrah_G Jun 2013 #29

I am not a Snowden fan, but the fact is you cannot compare the two. It is not apples with apples still_one Jun 2013 #30

This thread has the appeal of those cage fights. Gregorian Jun 2013 #31

This is the stupidest OP I have seen so far on DU. IMNSHO idwiyo Jun 2013 #34

You obviously have not seen many of mine The Straight Story Jun 2013 #36

Link or it didn't happen! idwiyo Jun 2013 #50

Wendy! Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #38

Without a doubt, Wendy Davis PennsylvaniaMatt Jun 2013 #39

Wendy's the hero; Snowden, I'm not sure about. hamsterjill Jun 2013 #49

Gary Gygax. nt ZombieHorde Jun 2013 #54

Wendy Davis, by far. graham4anything Jun 2013 #55

Davis Spirochete Jun 2013 #56

Because it's obviously a competition. (nt) Posteritatis Jun 2013 #59

Both. Arctic Dave Jun 2013 #62

i like turtles frylock Jun 2013 #67

Wendy Davis may be a hero too - But she did not have to sacrifice her former life for what she did. Douglas Carpenter Jun 2013 #69

Wendy did not break the law, she did not steal and she has not peddle stolen files abroad. Thinkingabout Jun 2013 #82

and she did not do anything that required any sacrifice whatsoever. Her popularity is going to soar Douglas Carpenter Jun 2013 #86

Wendy's stand is what courage looks like Politicub Jun 2013 #71

The word hero ohheckyeah Jun 2013 #75

good poll. DCBob Jun 2013 #77

Snowden is a traitor. Wendy's not a hero but someone to be admired.... 4bucksagallon Jun 2013 #84

Ouch. SnowdenWald got blown away. railsback Jun 2013 #85

OMG DU betrayed its hero? davidpdx Jun 2013 #88