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Bonobo

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19. If a fact is claimed that is in doubt, you are correct.
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 01:15 AM
Jun 2013

If it is an idea in question, I believe you are more wrong than right.

In this case, Snowden, no one is denying the basic facts that the NSA is sucking up the meta data of tens or hundreds of millions of people.

In that context, his personal life and that of Greenwald's is utterly irrelevant.

oh shit, Snowden is today's Rosa Parks, Elie Wiesel, Thomas Jefferson JI7 Jun 2013 #1
Umm, nope. But the logic is the same. Bonobo Jun 2013 #5
You left out ML King Jr, Gandhi, and Henry Thoreau. ucrdem Jun 2013 #8
Lol! Congratulations on missing the point in a spectacular fashion! sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #27
That's not as clever as it looks. sibelian Jun 2013 #41
If people want to post additional information about Obama, Greenwald, or Snowden.... Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #2
Yes, and I could post that the moon is made of green cheese. Bonobo Jun 2013 #7
Yes, I agree. Free expression is part of what keeps a country from becoming a totalitarian state. sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #28
Yeah, that reader would be me. sibelian Jun 2013 #42
I agree with your sentiment. But this is a terribe analogy. Gravitycollapse Jun 2013 #3
It is the same logic. The analogy is irrelevant. nt Bonobo Jun 2013 #6
The analogy is everything. Otherwise, why post it? Gravitycollapse Jun 2013 #10
I should say the example is irrelevant. Bonobo Jun 2013 #12
I always thought those guys were hypocrits. Whisp Jun 2013 #4
+100 n/t Tx4obama Jun 2013 #9
They were hypocrites and that's why much of what they said is total bullshit. Gravitycollapse Jun 2013 #11
The point is that the message can be and should be separated from the messenger. Bonobo Jun 2013 #14
The message can never and should never be fully removed from the messenger. Gravitycollapse Jun 2013 #15
If a fact is claimed that is in doubt, you are correct. Bonobo Jun 2013 #19
So, it seems Greenwald tried to suck up an old story and make it his own railsback Jun 2013 #22
Please link to the old story about Prism! I'd be really interested to see it! nt Bonobo Jun 2013 #23
PRISM is like upgrading from PS1 to PS6 railsback Jun 2013 #24
Then please link to the old stories that revealed that Apple, Google, Facebook and Skype Bonobo Jun 2013 #25
LoL, you make the accusations so sure of yourself railsback Jun 2013 #26
Dude, are you going to link to show your claim that none of this is new news or not? Bonobo Jun 2013 #31
Wow. Ok. I guess its easier to just flame away on sour grapes. railsback Jun 2013 #32
I didn't think so because you don't have shit. Bonobo Jun 2013 #34
Ha... Totally owned him' Democracyinkind Jun 2013 #37
I really have to disagree with you there MNBrewer Jun 2013 #44
The point is he got some things right. tblue Jun 2013 #16
The source of a message must always be considered. That is what I'm saying. Gravitycollapse Jun 2013 #18
Sometimes considering something results in saying "Yup, it's irrelevant." nt Bonobo Jun 2013 #20
This is the root of why/how they want to use metadata to disrupt dissent. reusrename Jun 2013 #36
Yep. They wrote down some awesome Utopian ideals, but... Amonester Jun 2013 #17
So you think we should toss out the Constitution then? sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #29
Jefferson was full of it. bravenak Jun 2013 #13
Yup, that's why I said fuck him. Bonobo Jun 2013 #21
That's the point, isn't it? Yet our whole country is based on his and the other very flawed sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #30
I have to disagree. Summer Hathaway Jun 2013 #33
Yeah, and y'all would positivley FREAK at Jefferson's Facebook page..... DFW Jun 2013 #35
Lol. It is quite good, but there's some WTF in there Democracyinkind Jun 2013 #38
It's a VERY peripheral part of the story DFW Jun 2013 #43
I think YOU are one missing the point. The fact that Snowden is a creep means that we don't have Douglas Carpenter Jun 2013 #39
the flaw in your logic emma7 Jun 2013 #40
"The wheels of justice grind slowly but exceedingly fine..." kentuck Jun 2013 #45
It's a superficial gossip-driven society, with a mass mentality to match. Waiting For Everyman Jun 2013 #46
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