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pnwmom

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15. He was equally shocked that the NSA is spying on other countries.

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 03:48 AM

Jun 2013

Do you think that is a reasonable reaction? Do you think most people taking NSA jobs are that ignorant of what the agency does?

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Eighteen years ago, when my oldest child first started going on the internet, I remember telling her [View all] pnwmom Jun 2013 OP

the analogy to email is mail, not garbage on the street. and fyi, you can be arrested for HiPointDem Jun 2013 #1

I think the laws on garbage vary from state to state. Gravitycollapse Jun 2013 #3

I suppose you are aware that ANYthing you produce on an employer's computer... Hekate Jun 2013 #21

no, what we write at home is NOT private, and that is the point at issue. the bit about HiPointDem Jun 2013 #22

Are you not "sharing" your thoughts here at DU? Do you not "share" personal info on social media? Hekate Jun 2013 #24

you said email and i wrote about email. email is not 'sharing'. political forums like du are HiPointDem Jun 2013 #27

I think the lines actually are blurred Hekate Jun 2013 #50

Yes, but I wasn't expecting the government to be keeping tabs on everything I do. Quantess Jun 2013 #41

I don't think the government is actually doing that Hekate Jun 2013 #51

they are, so i guess you don't actually know what's going on HiPointDem Jun 2013 #54

No actually, there are several sites that PRISM monitors like a hawk. Quantess Jun 2013 #55

No. Physical mail is contained in an envelope, ensuring privacy. jeff47 Jun 2013 #49

I included phones in that a long time ago, too. silverweb Jun 2013 #2

Yeah, I know that was true about phones, though I've heard that the technology pnwmom Jun 2013 #4

so much bullshit, so little time. HiPointDem Jun 2013 #7

And then there's reality. Skidmore Jun 2013 #34

bullshit apologetics HiPointDem Jun 2013 #36

No one is apologizing for anything. Skidmore Jun 2013 #37

What an awesome post. riqster Jun 2013 #47

It needed to be said. Skidmore Jun 2013 #48

because the nsa is just like my nosy neighbor. HiPointDem Jun 2013 #6

No, more like a harmless nosy neighbor dog who sniffs inappropriately. Quantess Jun 2013 #43

Other than your time line, ditto to every word you wrote. Control-Z Jun 2013 #5

Shocked? Why do you think people are shocked when we were all here after the leaks that exposed sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #10

Amen, sister!!!!!! MotherPetrie Jun 2013 #23

I havent seen anyone that is shocked about it... Democracyinkind Jun 2013 #8

+1. you put your finger on what is most annoying about that post. it at once trivializes the HiPointDem Jun 2013 #14

Bingo!!! MotherPetrie Jun 2013 #25

Yes, thank you. (no text) Quantess Jun 2013 #44

No one is shocked. JoeyT Jun 2013 #9

There have been a lot of people expressing shock. One of them was Snowden himself. pnwmom Jun 2013 #11

Then Snowden is an idiot if he didn't know it was happening. JoeyT Jun 2013 #13

He was equally shocked that the NSA is spying on other countries. pnwmom Jun 2013 #15

He was equally shocked JoeyT Jun 2013 #18

Since when are China and Russia our allies? They are trading partners, not allies. pnwmom Jun 2013 #19

Spot on. Skidmore Jun 2013 #35

And yet increasingly, we are being forced to do stuff online Duer 157099 Jun 2013 #12

I agree -- we need much better protections. And I don't do things like banking online, pnwmom Jun 2013 #16

I refuse to bank on line too and for the same reason. Skidmore Jun 2013 #38

exactly, we are being *forced*. today i spent most of the day trying to get services for HiPointDem Jun 2013 #17

There really is more than one issue here. Spying is a word that is used to create okaawhatever Jun 2013 #20

I wish you were sitting with whoever will be drafting any new laws. pnwmom Jun 2013 #28

And it has gotten worse by orders of magnitude. geckosfeet Jun 2013 #26

Warning your kids is smart. Live and Learn Jun 2013 #29

"those of you participating in character assassinations of people for past doings"? pnwmom Jun 2013 #30

And I am very curious to know what those "assets" are. Live and Learn Jun 2013 #32

Valerie Plame was an "asset" and so is every spy and every connection out there. pnwmom Jun 2013 #39

Wasn't it Cheney that outed Plame? Live and Learn Jun 2013 #56

It wasn't Cheney directly, but it was someone who clearly did it based on pnwmom Jun 2013 #57

Do you have links to his claims to out agents? Live and Learn Jun 2013 #58

A network IS a network of agents, plus their foreign associates.A network is made up of human beings pnwmom Jun 2013 #59

I take it you don't have a link? Live and Learn Jun 2013 #60

I didn't have links at my fingertips, but here are some. pnwmom Jun 2013 #61

Nowhere in that does he threaten to expose names of agents Live and Learn Jun 2013 #62

I said earlier that I hoped he'd been lying about having access to the full roster pnwmom Jun 2013 #63

I was entitled to my irrational paranoia about on-line privacy and they took that away from me corkhead Jun 2013 #31

The problem is the wretched excess, everybody knows, but this is stupid and obsessive. bemildred Jun 2013 #33

We have not been going after everyone in the world. We have been tracking terrorists, pnwmom Jun 2013 #40

more bullshit HiPointDem Jun 2013 #42

Nobody is going to buy that, even it if is true. bemildred Jun 2013 #46

Meh, not shocked that OUR money by the billions goes towards collecting data on us citizens The Straight Story Jun 2013 #45

Totally agree, pnwmom. Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #52

It's good that people are shocked - better late than never. reformist2 Jun 2013 #53

Strange OP. So if it is not brand new it can not be bad? How can anyone be shocked at a Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #64