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karynnj

(59,501 posts)
13. It is true that we fight among ourselves, but I think this goes beyond that
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 07:34 AM
Jun 2013

I never thought of it before 2004, but the way people get news has changed in such a way that it is far easier for the right to lie - and continue lying - long after they are proven wrong. Until recently, I thought of this in terms of elections.

If you think of it, what is completely unbelievable is that in 2004 and (2008/2012), they lied about some of the most thoroughly documented records that exist. In 2004, it was Kerry's service - where the official Navy record was disputed with absolutely no backup and the media even referring to it as "Kerry's version". In Obama's case, it was his birth certificate! You can't get more basic than that. Looking on right wing sites, it is amazing the number of posts that STILL takes the lies as fact.

Here, they are making up their own truth - and like with the elections - it continues long after the truth has been proven. I remember Kerry saying that he never expected the media to continue playing the liars - long after they had been given all the proof they needed to see that the liars had lied many many times. Not to mention, the newspapers, by and large, did pretty conclusively side with Kerry. It really showed how many people no longer had newspapers as their main source of news. In addition, unlike before cable, the TV news people get has become self selecting. Add in radio - that used to carry things like top 40 music - now is mostly right wing hate mongers.



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Stop confusing the issues with facts! mindwalker_i Jun 2013 #1
and NOTHING will happen to Issa. Watch. nt LaydeeBug Jun 2013 #2
It's hanky time! freshwest Jun 2013 #3
another Shirley Sherrod case? carolinayellowdog Jun 2013 #4
This actually came out very early on -- that something like 30% were tea party groups. pnwmom Jun 2013 #5
I think we need to establish an echo chamber like theirs to blanket the media with the truthful karynnj Jun 2013 #7
Too often we're not an echo chamber, unfortunately. pnwmom Jun 2013 #8
It is true that we fight among ourselves, but I think this goes beyond that karynnj Jun 2013 #13
You're right, it is a huge problem. pnwmom Jun 2013 #14
That is so true - except in THEIR media which gives just their side nt karynnj Jun 2013 #15
K&R! Cha Jun 2013 #6
Grand Theft Auto Issa should be in prison malaise Jun 2013 #9
Issa is red-hand BUSTED for baldface, evil-intended lying, cheating, smirking & deceiving (R) Berlum Jun 2013 #10
Maybe Obama will retract his condemnation of the IRS burnodo Jun 2013 #11
So basically everything Issa accused the Whitehouse of doing, he actually did Trekologer Jun 2013 #12
Pretty much. But you know... Triana Jun 2013 #17
I can't figure out whether Issa is really smart or dumb as a stump Armstead Jun 2013 #16
I think Democrats should call for an investigation on the investigator. kentuck Jun 2013 #18
use the right word--inquisitor dembotoz Jun 2013 #22
Obama used the word "if". Life Long Dem Jun 2013 #19
At this point Issa should be investigated..... AT LEAST uponit7771 Jun 2013 #20
Fake Democrats silent on this one Kingofalldems Jun 2013 #21
All Dems are silent... Triana Jun 2013 #24
This is all NADER'S fault! beerandjesus Jun 2013 #23
Color me shocked! nt truebluegreen Jun 2013 #25
Issa needs to be defrocked. aquart Jun 2013 #26
Ah ha! Issa directed Treasury inspector general to ignore IRS treatment of liberal groups. silvershadow Jun 2013 #27
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