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Recursion

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14. Speaking for myself, I would not accept that. An American calling overseas should not be listened to
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 10:06 AM
Jun 2013

barring a specific warrant. We do not lose our right to privacy when we call overseas.

The fact that we placed an overseas call, or a domestic call, has, to me, significantly less protection.

NFL WovenGems Jun 2013 #1
I have not followed closely. kentuck Jun 2013 #2
Glad to WovenGems Jun 2013 #6
You are talking about a suspected murderer. Are all Americans under suspicion of murder? sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #30
True WovenGems Jun 2013 #33
Agreed. Pholus Jun 2013 #3
"The people must have faith in their government." daleanime Jun 2013 #4
Your question rests on the premise that I am interested in compromise of any kind. sibelian Jun 2013 #5
Wow, you're giving the NSA more leeway than the NSA does. Recursion Jun 2013 #7
I disagree. kentuck Jun 2013 #9
Maybe I'm being too literal Recursion Jun 2013 #11
"By law" and "supposed to" are meaningless words. kentuck Jun 2013 #15
That's barely a third of the active phone numbers in the country Recursion Jun 2013 #19
By area code... kentuck Jun 2013 #24
GPS info isn't in trunk logs Recursion Jun 2013 #26
And neither is Facebook info... kentuck Jun 2013 #27
Actually it kinda is. RC Jun 2013 #46
OK, fair enough that tower info is (or at least can be) Recursion Jun 2013 #47
They know what town I live in when I mail in my Skidmore Jun 2013 #34
Random mail delivered randomly by this guy might set their minds at ease. randome Jun 2013 #36
Naw...naw...no need for facts!!! uponit7771 Jun 2013 #10
So you would not be willing to compromise as much as I? kentuck Jun 2013 #12
Speaking for myself, I would not accept that. An American calling overseas should not be listened to Recursion Jun 2013 #14
So you are not willing to compromise as much as I. kentuck Jun 2013 #17
Recursion articulated my position well, the NSA is doign what it supposed to do. I don't think ... uponit7771 Jun 2013 #16
We disagree. kentuck Jun 2013 #18
what information have the verified that they have. I'm not talking about our go to Iraq MSM uponit7771 Jun 2013 #20
??? kentuck Jun 2013 #22
They have verified that they have some information, I'd like to know...Snowden revieled something uponit7771 Jun 2013 #23
Most people had no idea of the marions ghost Jun 2013 #43
"Someone has to set limits with these folks." randome Jun 2013 #8
Yes, but apparently the Private Security Corporations, such as Booz Allen and the other over one sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #35
We don't know if contractors are involved in gathering or analyzing data. randome Jun 2013 #38
We know that many of them, such as Clapper eg, former CEO of Booz Allen, is now Director of sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #61
Consultants are hired all the time. It's happened to me a couple of times in the past. randome Jun 2013 #62
The are NOT just consultants. That's like calling Bush's Mercenaries 'contractors'. Clapper has a sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #63
Quite a bit, but there has to be meaningful oversight Yo_Mama Jun 2013 #13
Agree. kentuck Jun 2013 #21
More and more, human intelligence is becoming an oxymoron. RC Jun 2013 #48
... woo me with science Jun 2013 #25
Good argument. kentuck Jun 2013 #29
you ask that as though we had any choice markiv Jun 2013 #28
That's why so many folks are raising hell. kentuck Jun 2013 #31
The point wasn't to prosecute anyone treestar Jun 2013 #32
I don't think people are ready to make that trade-off. kentuck Jun 2013 #37
I was in the US in 2002-3 and that was not so treestar Jun 2013 #40
I'm not interested in compromising our civil rights.... mike_c Jun 2013 #39
You may be right, mike_c... kentuck Jun 2013 #41
the way I see this debate.... mike_c Jun 2013 #55
I'm not willing at all. Government is of the people, by the people, for the people, closeupready Jun 2013 #42
The NSA should be dismantled. The CIA should go too. Warren Stupidity Jun 2013 #44
I'm not at all convinced the destruction of my right to privacy whatchamacallit Jun 2013 #45
I will never trust this government again. Too many dirty deeds and lies and secrets. L0oniX Jun 2013 #49
So you're a "no" vote for universal healthcare, I take it? (nt) Recursion Jun 2013 #53
^^^ this makes DU suck ^^^ mike_c Jun 2013 #57
Bullshit. He said he would "never trust this government again". I saw no exception for healthcare. Recursion Jun 2013 #59
A secret government, or a government of secrets, doesn't equal democrocy. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #50
My opinion doesnt matter. bunnies Jun 2013 #51
There is no need for the surveillance state. It exists solely for the benefit of corporations GoneOffShore Jun 2013 #52
I think fundamental rights of ALL persons should be protected, snot Jun 2013 #54
how adorable! You really think we get to choose? librechik Jun 2013 #56
I'm not willing to compromise. backscatter712 Jun 2013 #58
I am willing to change my position... kentuck Jun 2013 #60
No compromise. nt LWolf Jun 2013 #64
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