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and of course Congess had nothing whatsoever to do with it dsc Jun 2013 #1
He made a campaign commercial directed at Christian groups in which he bragged about DOMA. Nye Bevan Jun 2013 #3
Many Presidents, including the current one, exploited homophobic feelings to get votes. The Link Jun 2013 #6
Yep. Reminds me of the "sausage factory" saying. (nt) Nye Bevan Jun 2013 #8
that makes no sense considering Maximumnegro Jun 2013 #32
what the hell are you talking about? he changed his mind on marriage last fucking year. The Link Jun 2013 #33
Yes. Just two days after NC passed an amendment to their constitution DURHAM D Jun 2013 #41
Okay so Biden MADE Obama change Maximumnegro Jun 2013 #48
Are you implying that Biden has some sort of problem Romulus Quirinus Jun 2013 #53
Doesn't answer my questions Maximumnegro Jun 2013 #47
I am saying that when it was politically safe for him to do so, he came on board. The Link Jun 2013 #75
Safe? It was before the 2012 election. AtomicKitten Jun 2013 #95
Donnie McClurkin as a campaign surrogate absolutely exploited homophobia. The Link Jun 2013 #76
Obama's position on same gender marriage until very recently Ms. Toad Jun 2013 #73
I think Obama's issue was the African American community Freddie Jun 2013 #105
No. It was strong personal discomfort. Ms. Toad Jun 2013 #106
It was political because, like it or not he's a politician loyalsister Jun 2013 #116
We'll have to disagree. Ms. Toad Jun 2013 #118
Difference he, the current president was not vicious about it. He did not run on the issue and brag Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2013 #64
Having a surrogate like McClurkin wasn't vicious? The Link Jun 2013 #74
"Surrogate"? Really? Ikonoklast Jun 2013 #94
Exactly!!! Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2013 #109
No. Elton John performed for Rush Limbaugh. Does that make him vicious? Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2013 #108
This doesn't sound like someone who's vicious... Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2013 #110
Vey true. HooptieWagon Jun 2013 #112
Only Bill Clinton signed it into law. He was for it before he was against it I guess. nt bike man Jun 2013 #10
I'm not saying he doesn't deserve scorn, but a veto would have been over ridden boston bean Jun 2013 #19
To be honest, he did later express regret at signing it. HooptieWagon Jun 2013 #59
Lt. Gen DeWitt is said to have expressed regret for his actions, too. OnyxCollie Jun 2013 #79
No he didn't. HooptieWagon Jun 2013 #98
That's why I wrote OnyxCollie Jun 2013 #111
pressure from his *girls*? pressure from his donors more likely. HiPointDem Jun 2013 #83
I recall an article that quotes Obama saying ... HooptieWagon Jun 2013 #96
yeah, politicians always make major political decisions based on what their 12-year-olds tell them. HiPointDem Jun 2013 #107
Guess what, you're wrong again. Link... HooptieWagon Jun 2013 #113
guess what, nice story, & i don't believe it. politicians don't make major political decisions HiPointDem Jun 2013 #114
Obama admitted he was wrong. HooptieWagon Jun 2013 #115
guess what. nothing to do with obama being right or wrong. political decisions aren't made HiPointDem Jun 2013 #120
And a veto would have put him on record as 'this is a bad bill, won't be approved by me because bike man Jun 2013 #101
That was my point. boston bean Jun 2013 #104
How very absurd! Of course Congress shares responsibility. But Pres. Clinton and Ms. Clinton rhett o rick Jun 2013 #11
I would imagine so since her court appointments would like have been as liberal as Obama's dsc Jun 2013 #16
Nobody forced him to sign it. He bears considerable responsibility. kestrel91316 Jun 2013 #78
He tried to permit gays to openly serve dsc Jun 2013 #84
Ever heard of a god damned veto? Coccydynia Jun 2013 #86
every heard of veto proof margins dsc Jun 2013 #87
Ever heard of standing on principle? Coccydynia Jun 2013 #88
I am not saying he shouldn't have or couldn't have vetoed dsc Jun 2013 #89
Probably. However, after making a stand Coccydynia Jun 2013 #97
Yeah that was pretty hypocritical there... As Colbert put it... PoliticAverse Jun 2013 #2
I like Bill, but he certainly knew how to play politics to his advantage. Nye Bevan Jun 2013 #5
that is a total lie dsc Jun 2013 #7
... and he couldn't have vetoed it? Myrina Jun 2013 #13
He could have but it would have been overridden dsc Jun 2013 #15
You DO know who Stephen Colbert is, right? WinkyDink Jun 2013 #38
So what if it was overriden? AtheistCrusader Jun 2013 #67
the law would still exist dsc Jun 2013 #85
Was the 1996 congress up in front of a microphone somewhere talking about how great it was this was AtheistCrusader Jun 2013 #99
well actually Pat Leahy who voted for it dsc Jun 2013 #100
Oh, I'm sure they did. AtheistCrusader Jun 2013 #102
Thank you Hillary Clinton.Look at what Rand Paul said against it(bring a barf bag Rand is fuming mad graham4anything Jun 2013 #4
What thanks does Ms. Clinton deserve? nm rhett o rick Jun 2013 #12
Elton John has said she is a major supporter & Elton is the #1 fundraiser for AIDS in the world graham4anything Jun 2013 #17
Elton John supports NAFTA? Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #22
One thing is sure, after both court rulings, LBJ has moved to #1 as the greatest president of all. graham4anything Jun 2013 #23
Elton John support LBJ? Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #24
Well, not sure about his support for LBJ, but we know he supports Limbaugh! bullwinkle428 Jun 2013 #36
Yep. Phlem Jun 2013 #93
Hardly. See: "Conflict, VietNam." WinkyDink Jun 2013 #39
Politicians... whatchamacallit Jun 2013 #9
he did acknowledge this fact, maybe a few months ago, and that he had since had a change of heart. unblock Jun 2013 #14
+1. FORWARD, not harping on the past and going backward. graham4anything Jun 2013 #21
Clinton is an azzhat. How is this a surprise. Maximumnegro Jun 2013 #37
Hillary is her OWN person. She is not owned by anyone. graham4anything Jun 2013 #43
CORRECT Skittles Jun 2013 #49
i'm sure he has sleepless nights about this now, along with Rwanda and all the other crap Whisp Jun 2013 #65
i tend to think most politicians make most big decisions based on politics rather than conviction unblock Jun 2013 #90
If he becomes contrite over his signing the Glass-Steagall repeal duffyduff Jun 2013 #119
He has made amends. William769 Jun 2013 #18
"...of our time" is a pretty low bar. imho. truebluegreen Jun 2013 #61
Ok, my time. William769 Jun 2013 #62
Whatever you like. truebluegreen Jun 2013 #63
No, he hasn't. Orsino Jun 2013 #117
Slick Willy. Arugula Latte Jun 2013 #20
In Clinton's first few months in Office he spent much of his political capital trying to allow gays Bandit Jun 2013 #25
... William769 Jun 2013 #26
Thank you. DURHAM D Jun 2013 #35
Took the words out of my mouth.... PennsylvaniaMatt Jun 2013 #40
Mixed bag. AtheistCrusader Jun 2013 #68
Yeah, thanks a lot Bill. AndyA Jun 2013 #27
I am glad Bill Clinton has seen the error of his ways. hrmjustin Jun 2013 #28
He said, when signing it, he didn't like the law Recursion Jun 2013 #29
What are you trying to do, wreck a photo op? Octafish Jun 2013 #30
As a long time LGBT activist I find this sort of OP title very sad DURHAM D Jun 2013 #31
that would spoil the rant. graham4anything Jun 2013 #45
Passing a Constitutional amendment is no easy feat. It takes years Arugula Latte Jun 2013 #46
Yes. And at the time it was not just possible it was probable. DURHAM D Jun 2013 #50
I disagree. AtheistCrusader Jun 2013 #70
Let me see if I get your point. We should thank Pres Clinton for 17 years of DOMA rhett o rick Jun 2013 #69
If we had had the constitutional amendment dsc Jun 2013 #103
Didn't he use DOMA for his re-election? malaise Jun 2013 #34
Spot on, malaise. closeupready Jun 2013 #44
Neither Clinton is a liberal. Apophis Jun 2013 #51
Neither is the current President. DURHAM D Jun 2013 #52
Yes. Major Hogwash Jun 2013 #72
He did indeed sign it, I remember - it was like nothing to him, closeupready Jun 2013 #42
If he wants to be helpful, he should renounce NAFTA and the Pacific deal BlueStreak Jun 2013 #54
More importantly how does Ms. Clinton stand on NAFTA and the Pacific deal? nm rhett o rick Jun 2013 #56
As far as we know, she is also a "New Democrat" BlueStreak Jun 2013 #58
That's ok DonCoquixote Jun 2013 #55
Whats that say about President Obama? William769 Jun 2013 #66
Hey, Bill: Take your wife and go on a long vacation bigwillq Jun 2013 #57
+1 AtomicKitten Jun 2013 #60
No shit. Major Hogwash Jun 2013 #71
Yep...what you said.... The empressof all Jun 2013 #77
1%er 4Q2u2 Jun 2013 #80
++++++++++++ Whisp Jun 2013 #91
He was a moderate Republican back then...or so it would seem, anyway? I have no explanation for his silvershadow Jun 2013 #81
I wonder whether he would praise the exoneration of Ricky Ray Rector, Nye Bevan Jun 2013 #82
And we're still dealing with his Phlem Jun 2013 #92
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