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In reply to the discussion: The Errors of Edward Snowden and His Global Hypocrisy Tour - Vanity Fair [View all]JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)92. That is juvenile. And it completely disregards rights of individuals and
companies that aren't in on the spy conspiracy.
Liberty, justice? Spying of the sort you describe that includes spying on normal people and private businesses is inconsistent with the concepts that hold our country together. And forget about free enterprise if trade secrets are scooped up by surveillance nets.
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The Errors of Edward Snowden and His Global Hypocrisy Tour - Vanity Fair [View all]
flamingdem
Jun 2013
OP
LOL. China is bad. Therefore, we must allow our own government to spy on us. Gotcha.
PSPS
Jun 2013
#2
NSA not all bad, therefore we must let it do whatever is required, no matter how awful
MNBrewer
Jun 2013
#5
It's the popular new term at the "cool kids table" in the Jr. High School lunch room, I guess.
MNBrewer
Jun 2013
#11
No, I think the cool kids are the ones ragging on members in the Barack Obama Group.
KittyWampus
Jun 2013
#17
That's not the point. Snowden has shot himself in the foot by taking the focus off the information
pnwmom
Jun 2013
#40
hard to know-- maybe that was a game he was playing to get in with the right people
NoMoreWarNow
Jun 2013
#77
I'm not saying you should be happy IF NSA is doing what Greenwald/Snowden claim in the US.
pnwmom
Jun 2013
#55
Wouldn't it make some sense to have an intelligence edge to smooth things out?
flamingdem
Jun 2013
#6
Thank you for an excellent article full of the historical background and context
pnwmom
Jun 2013
#41
So, if US cyber-spying on China is OK because it is in the interest of the US,
JDPriestly
Jun 2013
#42
quote: If frylock can't debate without being a dick, he should be shown the door by MIRT.
flamingdem
Jun 2013
#79
ugh, these are the same sources which said Mark Zuckerberg was handsome and his Chinese American
JI7
Jun 2013
#96
yes, there do seem to be endless attempts to make the story about Snowden, not the spying
NoMoreWarNow
Jun 2013
#68
Pretty sure it has links. Vanity Fair always seems to run exposes on the financial or MIC corps
haele
Jun 2013
#75
apparantly they didn't know the specific IP addresses, given their glee at finding out
arely staircase
Jun 2013
#69