Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

limpyhobbler

(8,244 posts)
37. I do see x-originating-ip when I view full headers in yahoo mail
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 08:31 PM
Jun 2013

But I think maybe it is up to the sending server whether or not to include the field, so email recipient can see the originating IP address.

A few people do run email servers at home. Hobbyists, people who have a reason to do it for work, paranoid people.


OK so let's say this. There are 2 different things.

1) There are email headers

2) There are email server logs

Those are two different things. So you're thinking the gov't only has access to the server logs, and not the headers which would be stored in the mailboxes. I think that's what you meant.

So then I would say hey the email server logs must include the ip address of the connecting party. Just like a web server log. So I don't buy the idea that the government doesn't have access to IP addresses and the easy ability to match that to an email address, and a real name, even if it might take an extra step.

but Snowden strangles small kittens and might move to ECUADOR! Warren Stupidity Jun 2013 #1
or he's an asshole more bent on embarrassing US\NSA than advancing 4th amendment rights? uponit7771 Jun 2013 #4
how are the revelations of massive surveillance of everyone embarrassing? Warren Stupidity Jun 2013 #5
cause they're not "revelations" to people who know about the PA uponit7771 Jun 2013 #6
so the revelation that the NSA has been conducting a massive surveillance of everyone does not Warren Stupidity Jun 2013 #10
BINGO! kelliekat44 Jun 2013 #23
And if that data was not there the E-mail would never arrive n/t intaglio Jun 2013 #2
AhHAH! But, who is Watching the Watchers who were and are Collecting? KoKo Jun 2013 #13
One day the answer to the "Who Watches ..." question intaglio Jun 2013 #40
Thought it was phone call meta data, any proof email meta data is being collected? uponit7771 Jun 2013 #3
Mine tells trhem that I'm very boring Armstead Jun 2013 #7
This is why proxies have been around for years. bunnies Jun 2013 #8
I suspect I am boring the shit out of them with my endless gardening emails NRaleighLiberal Jun 2013 #9
I never send any. HappyMe Jun 2013 #11
Bok Choy...with Cherry Tomatoes ...Sauteed Garlic, Red Pepper Strips KoKo Jun 2013 #15
Excellent. aquart Jun 2013 #28
Ah, yes...I am talking in code. tomato...pepper...brandywine...all so subversive! NRaleighLiberal Jun 2013 #34
B-b-b-but it's LEEEEEEEEGAL!!! backscatter712 Jun 2013 #12
... Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #14
Du rec. Nt xchrom Jun 2013 #16
We here on DU can be pretty sophisticated...but many of us are not so High Tech KoKo Jun 2013 #17
So how many are ready to opt out of the handy dandy tubes of the internets? Skidmore Jun 2013 #18
Our Medical Records are now sold by Hospitals. They say it's to give you "Support" KoKo Jun 2013 #19
Did it Creep You Out? KoKo Jun 2013 #35
Believe me, I understand the dynamics and scale. Skidmore Jun 2013 #36
Subject line is not part of metadata. Recursion Jun 2013 #21
#2 in this case doesn't tell anyone anything Recursion Jun 2013 #20
That's probably why they used it as an example. Like when they say 555-5555 for phone numbers on TV. limpyhobbler Jun 2013 #25
Right, but that just says where the server I'm sending from is physically located, not me Recursion Jun 2013 #26
Whenever I look at email headers I see the actual IP address of the sender in there somewhere, limpyhobbler Jun 2013 #30
I've seen that from hotmail but nowhere else Recursion Jun 2013 #31
I do see x-originating-ip when I view full headers in yahoo mail limpyhobbler Jun 2013 #37
Right. The servers log all the headers before the DATA command Recursion Jun 2013 #39
Gah! Also, everything after the Date: field is not logged. Recursion Jun 2013 #22
Don't know...why don't you post on Atlantic Web Site in Comments to the Reporter or KoKo Jun 2013 #24
Yo, how do you know they are not collecting the full headers and calling that metadata. limpyhobbler Jun 2013 #27
Because they're getting it from the mail servers themselves, and I know what they do and don't log Recursion Jun 2013 #29
They should NOT be coding my Send to and From Information....in their data files. KoKo Jun 2013 #33
Isn't 4 Sender Email? nt valerief Jun 2013 #32
That's one of several problems with this article (nt) Recursion Jun 2013 #38
Latest Discussions»General Discussion»What Your Email Metadata ...»Reply #37