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In reply to the discussion: "Crazy ass cracker" [View all]

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
136. Let's start again. Your first post I replied to:
Fri Jun 28, 2013, 07:43 AM
Jun 2013
67. i guess you can only be a bigot on this board if you are bigoted toward the right groups. fuck this bullshit...

And that your comment, I replied:

95. Call me a list of bigoted names for white people. I'll tell you which one hurts. I'm white and have always been at ease about it. I'd like to know which names said by non-whites or whites feels as if you're being discriminated against, or offends you. I don't feel at all threatened or discriminated against just because I'm white, but I know I have been for other reasons. And please tell me which groups are the subject of bigotry at DU. I don't feel that way at all, but may be missing something.

Your reply didn't answer my questions, nor come up with a name to offend me:

106. so cracker isn't good enough for you? i would suggest looking up the term bigot...

You seem focused on the word cracker, but Z was also called creepy. What has that got to do with DU members?

I don't need to look up the term bigot as I already know, but don't use the term. It doesn't change hearts or minds. But you brought DU into this. So that is all the definition needed. The TOS at DU states:

No bigoted hate speech.

Do not post bigotry based on someone's race or ethnic origin, gender, sexual orientation, gender identity, religion or lack thereof, disability, or other comparable personal characteristic. To be clear: This includes any post which states opposition to full equal rights for gays and lesbians; it also includes any post asserting disloyalty by Jewish Americans, claiming nefarious influence by Jews/Zionists/Israel, advocating the destruction of the state of Israel, or arguing that Holocaust deniers are just misunderstood. In determining what constitutes bigotry, please be aware that we cannot know what is in anyone's heart, and we will give members the benefit of the doubt, when — and only when — such doubt exists.

This is a thread with a poll based on a trial and the statement of a young man just before being shot dead by a stalker. Why make it about other DUers?

Really, you shot out the gate with that by yourself. I want to know why you are charging DUers with being bigoted.

I don't think bigotry is an attractive quality nor is it a quality or a privilege anyone would want to have, or would complain about not getting to express.

It appears you are saying it is a privilege to be a bigot at DU. Who is being afforded this privilege and who is not?

You appear to be saying that not all DUers are allowed equal rights. Who are the right groups that you speak of here?

As far as your question, you went off topic but, I'll answer you anyway.

Yes, cracker is good enough for me. Sure, call me a cracker. I won't be offended. I wouldn't call you a bigot for saying that or anything else. Will you call yourself a bigot then?

AFAIK, no one has ever called another member a cracker at DU, or anything on the list in the TOS. As I said, call me a cracker or whatever you want, it's like water off a duck's back. Although that would be a quacker, maybe. Feel free to call me that, too.

I'm not oppressed on the basis of my skin color and never have been. Calling me names for being white is laughable to me as I am not losing anything.

I don't call anyone names out the TOS here or any other kind of names, really. Why bother. DU was not the subject of this thread until you choose it to be.

Have a nice weekend.

"Crazy ass cracker" [View all] Agschmid Jun 2013 OP
It is an offensive term but I had to vote that Zimmerman is guilty. hrmjustin Jun 2013 #1
Context please tularetom Jun 2013 #2
Testimony from Zimmerman trial... Agschmid Jun 2013 #10
Martin called Zimmerman a "creepy ass cracker". nt Raine Jun 2013 #11
And he was right! n/t backscatter712 Jun 2013 #19
Yup! Agschmid Jun 2013 #22
He'd have been lucky to get something so mild from me. I'm experienced at profanity. freshwest Jun 2013 #91
Me too, I got a real profane streak and I know how to use it. nt. Raine Jun 2013 #98
Hell, I skip straight past the racial slurs and move straight to dehumanizing metaphors. backscatter712 Jun 2013 #122
Not quite - to his friend, on the cellphone, TM described Zim: "creepy-ass cracker is staring at me" KurtNYC Jun 2013 #101
yup you're right, it's not same even though that's what Zimmerman is, especially creepy. nt Raine Jun 2013 #115
So, if I used the n-word among fellow white people customerserviceguy Jun 2013 #132
That seems logical to me loyalsister Jun 2013 #142
I thought it was "cracker ass cracker" NightWatcher Jun 2013 #3
Context: Couple of minutes later, he called him a n***** Democracyinkind Jun 2013 #4
Not anti white attitude... Agschmid Jun 2013 #14
Ditto. Democracyinkind Jun 2013 #29
Agreed. avaistheone1 Jun 2013 #15
Post removed Post removed Jun 2013 #5
What the fuck? one_voice Jun 2013 #6
Errr...right? Texasgal Jun 2013 #9
and.... he's gone.. EvilAL Jun 2013 #32
MIRT on the job! one_voice Jun 2013 #34
Woohoo good job MIRT! Agschmid Jun 2013 #37
Skinner served him the pizza... EvilAL Jun 2013 #38
What brand was it? freshwest Jun 2013 #92
Tombstone pinboy3niner Jun 2013 #102
lol, EvilAL Jun 2013 #108
Not EVEN close. Agschmid Jun 2013 #16
Really? EvilAL Jun 2013 #17
It is NOT, that's total BULLSHIT Raine Jun 2013 #18
Racial slurs don't have the same sting when used against the dominant bastards. backscatter712 Jun 2013 #23
Racial slurs are hurtful, negative, inflammatory and counterproductive regardless of who is casting avaistheone1 Jun 2013 #27
"cracker" is a class slur IMO carolinayellowdog Jun 2013 #44
For the sake of equal treatment, shouldn't it be... Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #28
Racial slurs are used by stupid people to show others how stupid they are. avaistheone1 Jun 2013 #31
"bastard" is a racial slur"? "dominant bastard"? Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #33
I was referencing the n word, and the word cracker (not dominant bastard). avaistheone1 Jun 2013 #36
Sorry. Brain cramp. Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #39
No problem. avaistheone1 Jun 2013 #40
No. The bastard is the one in charge of bastardly behavior such as verbal assaults. freshwest Jun 2013 #93
Well he is. avaistheone1 Jun 2013 #7
I just read the other day on the meaning of 'cracker' Whisp Jun 2013 #8
Did not know the origin of the term. Agschmid Jun 2013 #20
That is not actually the origin of the term, and the term is very very Florida specific Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #47
+1. n/t winter is coming Jun 2013 #59
thanks for posting that d_r Jun 2013 #64
My Mom (who is 93) grew up in a "cracker-built" house... Eleanors38 Jun 2013 #85
No I've never heard d_r Jun 2013 #110
+1 Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2013 #73
that makes sense but I always thought it was from Florida cattle drivers Kali Jun 2013 #51
Me, too! Sissyk Jun 2013 #113
That's not the origin of the term RZM Jun 2013 #58
There are several origins, but the "slave whip" is questionable: Eleanors38 Jun 2013 #75
OMG. Thanks for the info. freshwest Jun 2013 #96
He should be fired from his cooking show The Straight Story Jun 2013 #12
you wonder if someone is offended NM_Birder Jun 2013 #13
+10 avaistheone1 Jun 2013 #24
I don't give a rat's ass. Zoeisright Jun 2013 #21
+1 Agschmid Jun 2013 #25
Black (minority) LGBT have it bad, too. Skin color is obviously instantly recognizable than Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2013 #83
You mean, as a white MAN you have never been discriminated against ... SharonAnn Jun 2013 #52
Exactly. Good post. Hoyt Jun 2013 #55
Whoop, there it is!! Nothing more frustrating to a black person than hearing a white person Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2013 #81
+10 Scootaloo Jun 2013 #87
What kind of crazy-assed cracker put together this incomprehensible poll? Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #26
"cracker" seems to be a Floridian version of "redneck" carolinayellowdog Jun 2013 #30
Florida is the only state where I've heard that word used (regularly) nt ecstatic Jun 2013 #35
I think it was created for Florida cattlemen...who cracked their whip to drive cattle HereSince1628 Jun 2013 #57
I'm white and not really offended LittleBlue Jun 2013 #41
I think that depends on what generation you are from, and it even may be influenced by what area avaistheone1 Jun 2013 #43
Agreed LittleBlue Jun 2013 #45
I agree Generic Other Jun 2013 #111
This message was self-deleted by its author Malone Jun 2013 #42
It's not offensive unless you want it to be, and communicate that intent to me. nt rrneck Jun 2013 #46
I can't imagine being offended by being called a cracker. DevonRex Jun 2013 #48
It does... Agschmid Jun 2013 #49
Exactly. Very silly. I just feel like we straight white people sound ridiculous DevonRex Jun 2013 #68
I've never found the word cracker offensive... penultimate Jun 2013 #63
Offensive term Aerows Jun 2013 #50
certainly not between friends flamingdem Jun 2013 #53
As offensive as an Isoldeblue Jun 2013 #54
oh, i thought this was another mike huckabee post arely staircase Jun 2013 #56
ROFL marmar Jun 2013 #61
DUzy! Enrique Jun 2013 #109
Offensive? I seriously had no idea. JenniferJuniper Jun 2013 #60
Try crumpets... It's British. Agschmid Jun 2013 #62
unless you are paula dean arely staircase Jun 2013 #72
I actually find that racist term to be humorous. nt ZombieHorde Jun 2013 #65
Are you a Floridian? question everything Jun 2013 #66
i guess you can only be a bigot on this board ProdigalJunkMail Jun 2013 #67
How has the word "cracker" been used in history to oppress, um, JenniferJuniper Jun 2013 #69
go look up the term bigot ProdigalJunkMail Jun 2013 #105
Call me a list of bigoted names for white people. I'll tell you which one hurts. freshwest Jun 2013 #95
so cracker isn't good enough for you? ProdigalJunkMail Jun 2013 #106
Let's start again. Your first post I replied to: freshwest Jun 2013 #136
sorry if i don't stay glued to a trial ProdigalJunkMail Jun 2013 #138
Okay, I see your context now. And the TOS is just what it is. I strong disagree with place of origin freshwest Jun 2013 #144
It's a racist term used by racists. DesMoinesDem Jun 2013 #70
lol uponit7771 Jun 2013 #71
"racist" vs. "bigoted" bobduca Jun 2013 #82
That might be what you think it means... Pelican Jun 2013 #116
No bobduca Jun 2013 #117
No but what? Pelican Jun 2013 #118
Let me guess bobduca Jun 2013 #119
Let me guess... Pelican Jun 2013 #120
the point being you deny power has any aspect to the term "racist" bobduca Jun 2013 #121
Look... Pelican Jun 2013 #123
how about attend some college in the past 20 years? bobduca Jun 2013 #124
Are claiming that calling someone a cracker is not racist? Pelican Jun 2013 #126
Yeah its a bigoted term of no consequence. with no history of lynching bobduca Jun 2013 #128
I see you at least found the website... Pelican Jun 2013 #129
Plonk bobduca Jun 2013 #130
I thought this was going to be about Paula Deen n/t Tanuki Jun 2013 #74
No thank, I have some wheat thins jberryhill Jun 2013 #76
Damn, what I'd do for a RITZ right now. With that damned canned cheese on it. Sick. freshwest Jun 2013 #94
Cracker has NONE of the history, hate and contempt as the N-word Taverner Jun 2013 #77
Rush is that you? Historic NY Jun 2013 #78
Crazy ass cracker?? Half-Century Man Jun 2013 #79
what a false dichotomy, hobsons choice bullshit poll bobduca Jun 2013 #80
It is certainly racist... Pelican Jun 2013 #84
I'm an American who dates back to the JFK administration JenniferJuniper Jun 2013 #88
Hence the reason I typed a response... Pelican Jun 2013 #89
Offensive terms can be relative but.. Notafraidtoo Jun 2013 #86
Well said. freshwest Jun 2013 #97
"probably laugh on the inside a bit" jberryhill Jun 2013 #107
I'm WASP. I'm immune to name calling. If you don't understand, that's okay. freshwest Jun 2013 #90
I'm not offended. HappyMe Jun 2013 #99
There's something about the way Chris Rock says it..... a kennedy Jun 2013 #100
extra funny IMHO ileus Jun 2013 #103
I thought this was about Republican Senators. Major Hogwash Jun 2013 #104
Calling someone a "crazy ass cracker" doesn't give them license to kill someone. justiceischeap Jun 2013 #112
It was Trayvon who used this term. He didn't kill anyone. WinkyDink Jun 2013 #140
I guess I should have said, "Being called a crazy ass cracker doesn't give that person the right... justiceischeap Jun 2013 #141
Not offensive. crim son Jun 2013 #114
how would this term absolve Zimmerman of guilt? yurbud Jun 2013 #125
some white LA talk radio guys invited black people to call in and try to racially insult them and yurbud Jun 2013 #127
Does it really matter? bobclark86 Jun 2013 #131
Some context on 'cracker' being a racial slur: Earth_First Jun 2013 #133
I'm sure that we're going to be seeing some Saltine-American group coming to Z's defense over this MrScorpio Jun 2013 #134
A 17 year old didn't deserve to die because he said cracker. Marrah_G Jun 2013 #135
Sticks and stones can break my bones...... Nye Bevan Jun 2013 #137
Not and not. But then, I'm from a line of coal-crackers. WinkyDink Jun 2013 #139
Of course it's not offensive. It's not bigoted or racist or even hateful. Sheldon Cooper Jun 2013 #143
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