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In reply to the discussion: "Crazy ass cracker" [View all]freshwest
(53,661 posts)136. Let's start again. Your first post I replied to:
67. i guess you can only be a bigot on this board if you are bigoted toward the right groups. fuck this bullshit...
And that your comment, I replied:
95. Call me a list of bigoted names for white people. I'll tell you which one hurts. I'm white and have always been at ease about it. I'd like to know which names said by non-whites or whites feels as if you're being discriminated against, or offends you. I don't feel at all threatened or discriminated against just because I'm white, but I know I have been for other reasons. And please tell me which groups are the subject of bigotry at DU. I don't feel that way at all, but may be missing something.
Your reply didn't answer my questions, nor come up with a name to offend me:
106. so cracker isn't good enough for you? i would suggest looking up the term bigot...
You seem focused on the word cracker, but Z was also called creepy. What has that got to do with DU members?
I don't need to look up the term bigot as I already know, but don't use the term. It doesn't change hearts or minds. But you brought DU into this. So that is all the definition needed. The TOS at DU states:
No bigoted hate speech.
Do not post bigotry based on someone's race or ethnic origin, gender, sexual orientation, gender identity, religion or lack thereof, disability, or other comparable personal characteristic. To be clear: This includes any post which states opposition to full equal rights for gays and lesbians; it also includes any post asserting disloyalty by Jewish Americans, claiming nefarious influence by Jews/Zionists/Israel, advocating the destruction of the state of Israel, or arguing that Holocaust deniers are just misunderstood. In determining what constitutes bigotry, please be aware that we cannot know what is in anyone's heart, and we will give members the benefit of the doubt, when and only when such doubt exists.
This is a thread with a poll based on a trial and the statement of a young man just before being shot dead by a stalker. Why make it about other DUers?
Really, you shot out the gate with that by yourself. I want to know why you are charging DUers with being bigoted.
I don't think bigotry is an attractive quality nor is it a quality or a privilege anyone would want to have, or would complain about not getting to express.
It appears you are saying it is a privilege to be a bigot at DU. Who is being afforded this privilege and who is not?
You appear to be saying that not all DUers are allowed equal rights. Who are the right groups that you speak of here?
As far as your question, you went off topic but, I'll answer you anyway.
Yes, cracker is good enough for me. Sure, call me a cracker. I won't be offended. I wouldn't call you a bigot for saying that or anything else. Will you call yourself a bigot then?
AFAIK, no one has ever called another member a cracker at DU, or anything on the list in the TOS. As I said, call me a cracker or whatever you want, it's like water off a duck's back. Although that would be a quacker, maybe. Feel free to call me that, too.
I'm not oppressed on the basis of my skin color and never have been. Calling me names for being white is laughable to me as I am not losing anything.
I don't call anyone names out the TOS here or any other kind of names, really. Why bother. DU was not the subject of this thread until you choose it to be.
Have a nice weekend.
And that your comment, I replied:
95. Call me a list of bigoted names for white people. I'll tell you which one hurts. I'm white and have always been at ease about it. I'd like to know which names said by non-whites or whites feels as if you're being discriminated against, or offends you. I don't feel at all threatened or discriminated against just because I'm white, but I know I have been for other reasons. And please tell me which groups are the subject of bigotry at DU. I don't feel that way at all, but may be missing something.
Your reply didn't answer my questions, nor come up with a name to offend me:
106. so cracker isn't good enough for you? i would suggest looking up the term bigot...
You seem focused on the word cracker, but Z was also called creepy. What has that got to do with DU members?
I don't need to look up the term bigot as I already know, but don't use the term. It doesn't change hearts or minds. But you brought DU into this. So that is all the definition needed. The TOS at DU states:
No bigoted hate speech.
Do not post bigotry based on someone's race or ethnic origin, gender, sexual orientation, gender identity, religion or lack thereof, disability, or other comparable personal characteristic. To be clear: This includes any post which states opposition to full equal rights for gays and lesbians; it also includes any post asserting disloyalty by Jewish Americans, claiming nefarious influence by Jews/Zionists/Israel, advocating the destruction of the state of Israel, or arguing that Holocaust deniers are just misunderstood. In determining what constitutes bigotry, please be aware that we cannot know what is in anyone's heart, and we will give members the benefit of the doubt, when and only when such doubt exists.
This is a thread with a poll based on a trial and the statement of a young man just before being shot dead by a stalker. Why make it about other DUers?
Really, you shot out the gate with that by yourself. I want to know why you are charging DUers with being bigoted.
I don't think bigotry is an attractive quality nor is it a quality or a privilege anyone would want to have, or would complain about not getting to express.
It appears you are saying it is a privilege to be a bigot at DU. Who is being afforded this privilege and who is not?
You appear to be saying that not all DUers are allowed equal rights. Who are the right groups that you speak of here?
As far as your question, you went off topic but, I'll answer you anyway.
Yes, cracker is good enough for me. Sure, call me a cracker. I won't be offended. I wouldn't call you a bigot for saying that or anything else. Will you call yourself a bigot then?
AFAIK, no one has ever called another member a cracker at DU, or anything on the list in the TOS. As I said, call me a cracker or whatever you want, it's like water off a duck's back. Although that would be a quacker, maybe. Feel free to call me that, too.
I'm not oppressed on the basis of my skin color and never have been. Calling me names for being white is laughable to me as I am not losing anything.
I don't call anyone names out the TOS here or any other kind of names, really. Why bother. DU was not the subject of this thread until you choose it to be.
Have a nice weekend.
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He'd have been lucky to get something so mild from me. I'm experienced at profanity.
freshwest
Jun 2013
#91
Hell, I skip straight past the racial slurs and move straight to dehumanizing metaphors.
backscatter712
Jun 2013
#122
Not quite - to his friend, on the cellphone, TM described Zim: "creepy-ass cracker is staring at me"
KurtNYC
Jun 2013
#101
yup you're right, it's not same even though that's what Zimmerman is, especially creepy. nt
Raine
Jun 2013
#115
Racial slurs don't have the same sting when used against the dominant bastards.
backscatter712
Jun 2013
#23
Racial slurs are hurtful, negative, inflammatory and counterproductive regardless of who is casting
avaistheone1
Jun 2013
#27
Racial slurs are used by stupid people to show others how stupid they are.
avaistheone1
Jun 2013
#31
I was referencing the n word, and the word cracker (not dominant bastard).
avaistheone1
Jun 2013
#36
No. The bastard is the one in charge of bastardly behavior such as verbal assaults.
freshwest
Jun 2013
#93
That is not actually the origin of the term, and the term is very very Florida specific
Bluenorthwest
Jun 2013
#47
Black (minority) LGBT have it bad, too. Skin color is obviously instantly recognizable than
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jun 2013
#83
Whoop, there it is!! Nothing more frustrating to a black person than hearing a white person
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jun 2013
#81
I think it was created for Florida cattlemen...who cracked their whip to drive cattle
HereSince1628
Jun 2013
#57
I think that depends on what generation you are from, and it even may be influenced by what area
avaistheone1
Jun 2013
#43
It's not offensive unless you want it to be, and communicate that intent to me. nt
rrneck
Jun 2013
#46
Exactly. Very silly. I just feel like we straight white people sound ridiculous
DevonRex
Jun 2013
#68
Call me a list of bigoted names for white people. I'll tell you which one hurts.
freshwest
Jun 2013
#95
Okay, I see your context now. And the TOS is just what it is. I strong disagree with place of origin
freshwest
Jun 2013
#144
Damn, what I'd do for a RITZ right now. With that damned canned cheese on it. Sick.
freshwest
Jun 2013
#94
Calling someone a "crazy ass cracker" doesn't give them license to kill someone.
justiceischeap
Jun 2013
#112
I guess I should have said, "Being called a crazy ass cracker doesn't give that person the right...
justiceischeap
Jun 2013
#141
some white LA talk radio guys invited black people to call in and try to racially insult them and
yurbud
Jun 2013
#127
I'm sure that we're going to be seeing some Saltine-American group coming to Z's defense over this
MrScorpio
Jun 2013
#134
Of course it's not offensive. It's not bigoted or racist or even hateful.
Sheldon Cooper
Jun 2013
#143