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Beacool

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47. The Clintons never make the same mistake twice.

Sat Jun 29, 2013, 01:09 PM

Jun 2013

The campaign's mistake was not preparing well enough for the caucus states and hiring Mark Penn. I have no issue with the rest of it. As for the super delegates, that's how Obama ended up getting the nomination. If the Democratic party ran their primaries like the Republicans, she would have clenched the nomination after Super Tuesday. A lot of stuff went behind the scenes in 2008. It's ironic how people like Pelosi and McCaskill are now "praying", like Pelosi said, that Hillary runs in 2016. I wouldn't trust those two backstabbers with anything.

I have no idea whether Hillary will choose to put herself through that ordeal again, but of what thing I am certain: if she runs, she wins.

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Hlllary Clinton strongest non-incumbent in history=Nate Silver on 2016 presidential- [View all] graham4anything Jun 2013 OP

well maybe one dsc Jun 2013 #1

George Washington too pscot Jun 2013 #3

And Harrison and Jackson. Less so Garfield, Tyler, and Pierce (nt) Recursion Jun 2013 #18

dog save us all, if that is the case. Whisp Jun 2013 #2

"us" ? DURHAM D Jun 2013 #6

oh, I know what you mean. Whisp Jun 2013 #7

I have no clue what your freedom Fry reference is about. DURHAM D Jun 2013 #9

The rest will be trooping in soon enough. Beacool Jun 2013 #12

I think you have me confused with others with that NAFTA thing. Whisp Jun 2013 #15

Blaming Hillary for NAFTA has been your thing for years. DURHAM D Jun 2013 #17

now I'm sure you have me mixed up with someone else. Whisp Jun 2013 #19

keep dancing DURHAM D Jun 2013 #21

if it's that important to you, I will accept your accusation on NAFTA. Whisp Jun 2013 #23

right. you've never heard of "freedom fries". delrem Jun 2013 #32

And then DonCoquixote Jun 2013 #4

You tell 'em, Nate!!! nt MADem Jun 2013 #5

And Jebby Bush is giving her a medal.......... Historic NY Jun 2013 #8

Oh, that's going to go well around here. Beacool Jun 2013 #10

Yep. DURHAM D Jun 2013 #11

The bitters will be here soon enough. Beacool Jun 2013 #13

Good gods, I hope she's not the nominee. Apophis Jun 2013 #14

If she runs... she is. Not really a question. -eom gcomeau Jun 2013 #22

So it's going to be a Republican vs a Republican-lite for President. Apophis Jun 2013 #24

Don't be a child. gcomeau Jun 2013 #25

Yeah. Hyperbole. Apophis Jun 2013 #28

The eye rolling indicates... gcomeau Jun 2013 #31

exactly: it'll be a republican vs a republican. Simple. delrem Jun 2013 #33

OK, Corporatist Republican vs Corporatist Dem. HooptieWagon Jun 2013 #36

Really, not Nixon in 1960? hughee99 Jun 2013 #16

Nixon was the incumbent VP in 1960 tritsofme Jun 2013 #29

As sorry, I need to pay attention. n/t hughee99 Jun 2013 #30

Heh! I was wondering when hillary4anything would chime in!! madinmaryland Jun 2013 #20

If she runs for the Democratic nomination, I will happily campaign against her. David__77 Jun 2013 #26

Are you talking from the perspective of an Obama supporter? stevenleser Jun 2013 #27

I'm not so sure of her loyalty as SoS. Whisp Jun 2013 #35

+1. n/t pnwmom Jun 2013 #57

Detestable??????? Beacool Jun 2013 #34

She did run a bad campaign. HooptieWagon Jun 2013 #37

That's a matter of opinion. Beacool Jun 2013 #41

I'm not thrilled with what we ended up with either. HooptieWagon Jun 2013 #43

The Clintons never make the same mistake twice. Beacool Jun 2013 #47

well, that's the problem for Hillary right there: what you said: Whisp Jun 2013 #48

Oh, you're so clever......... Beacool Jun 2013 #49

It was Hillary supporters who moved Fla's primary date up, HooptieWagon Jun 2013 #56

No, that's not so. Beacool Jun 2013 #58

Bullshit. HooptieWagon Jun 2013 #60

Yeah, whatever. Beacool Jun 2013 #62

my response to some comments above is as always FORWARD,Hillary winning landslide with voters united graham4anything Jun 2013 #38

What are you on that's giving you these hallucinations? hobbit709 Jun 2013 #65

"Hillary is a monster" -Samantha Power, Obama's designate for UN Ambassador Fumesucker Jun 2013 #39

We move ahead by moving forward. 95% of the voters landslide victory.The other 5%, oh well. graham4anything Jun 2013 #40

Yeah, and she had to quit his campaign. Beacool Jun 2013 #50

It was a gaffe, defined as a politician inadvertently telling the truth n/t Fumesucker Jun 2013 #55

Truth???? Beacool Jun 2013 #59

Ugh. 3rd Way warmonger who trumpeted Bush's wars. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #42

Yes she did. Will never forget that. Though closeupready Jun 2013 #61

She won't get my vote, no matter what DU demands I do n/t whatchamacallit Jun 2013 #44

Suit yourself. Beacool Jun 2013 #51

Who cares, it's 2013. marmar Jun 2013 #45

Cory Booker Oct. 2013 senate vs. a Koch brotherbacked ultra conservative graham4anything Jun 2013 #46

Credible BeyondGeography Jun 2013 #52

Same was said in 2007, how did that turn out? LittleBlue Jun 2013 #53

Hopefully we get an actual progressive candidate to run against her. PoliticalPothead Jun 2013 #54

She's not ready. Beacool Jun 2013 #64

your judgement on readiness needs some work Whisp Jun 2013 #68

Your judgment on anything Clinton needs even more work. Beacool Jun 2013 #71

Oh, you want to talk about pardons, do you? Marc Rich. Whisp Jun 2013 #73

Yeah, so? Beacool Jun 2013 #76

Except that this time there won't be another Obama coming out of the woodwork. Beacool Jun 2013 #63

How do you know? LittleBlue Jun 2013 #66

Obama had come out of the woodwork 4 years beforehand via a convention speech that 38 million stevenleser Jun 2013 #67

maybe so that there is no Obama this time around but Whisp Jun 2013 #69

No, she wasn't. Beacool Jun 2013 #70

Benghazi, Schmenghazi... it's the State Dept Sex Assault and Pedophilia scandal Whisp Jun 2013 #72

You bore me............ Beacool Jun 2013 #75

Hopefully majority of the voters would wake up and finally elect someone better than that. idwiyo Jun 2013 #74

I won't vote for her mick063 Jun 2013 #77

I vow that I will NOT tear down any candidate that runs against Hillary. graham4anything Jun 2013 #78