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kimbutgar

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226. Do you think he will ever be free to walk around and feel safe again.

Sun Jul 14, 2013, 10:40 AM

Jul 2013

His life is going to be a living hell. He might be a hero on fox and in white wing world but a month from now he will be a pariah. He will be looking over his shoulder everywhere he goes paranoid, and stressed. Yes it will be hell on earth.

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Zimmerman apologists completely and absolutely disgust me [View all] CatWoman Jul 2013 OP

Gun humpers cannot stand the fact that Zimmerman is going down Rex Jul 2013 #1

What is a gun humper Rex? Duckwraps Jul 2013 #58

Pizza Pizza malokvale77 Jul 2013 #126

Someone who loves their weapon as if it's a living being. Boomerproud Jul 2013 #138

I HOPE he's going down. calimary Jul 2013 #68

It sets a horrifying precedent: tblue Jul 2013 #164

The difference lies with the action person B takes... Pelican Jul 2013 #212

Not at all AgingAmerican Jul 2013 #233

How does person B Keefer Jul 2013 #252

What it really is BainsBane Jul 2013 #110

It really doesn't seem like this case is as complicated as it is being made out to be Horse with no Name Jul 2013 #2

I Agree, Ma'am The Magistrate Jul 2013 #3

it could have been my grandson CatWoman Jul 2013 #7

I'm with you, CatWoman...n/t hlthe2b Jul 2013 #4

Very true. nt. countingbluecars Jul 2013 #5

Do you have some names to give us? I have not seen one post of anyone who decided at the outset Honeycombe8 Jul 2013 #6

it's against DU rules to call out people by names CatWoman Jul 2013 #8

Nope. I see posts that link to "example" posts occasionally. There's no problem w/that. Honeycombe8 Jul 2013 #30

You mean like this one? Ruby the Liberal Jul 2013 #47

Thanks for doing the research. crim son Jul 2013 #78

That is just the claptrap blather I ran into late this afternoon... Ruby the Liberal Jul 2013 #146

This poster is all over the place, doin' the 'What Me, Gloatin'?' It's disgusting, dark, puerile. byronius Jul 2013 #249

It's really disgusting that they couldn't wait a few days LuvNewcastle Jul 2013 #251

I guess Honeycomb Caretha Jul 2013 #143

Lots of noobs and sleepers suddenly waking up. Ikonoklast Jul 2013 #169

Why are you bringing this up now? Are you trying to gloat? Not a good time. nm rhett o rick Jul 2013 #188

I have been in a few fights, but only once where I knew the guy was trying to kill me. reusrename Jul 2013 #91

yep d_r Jul 2013 #148

I can't even get past the point tofuandbeer Jul 2013 #205

That, right there, is the tipping point. RC Jul 2013 #240

Pretty much pipi_k Jul 2013 #93

I vote for Caretha Jul 2013 #147

I hear you OwnedByCats Jul 2013 #183

Yeah, nobody on DU has a clue, as the trial was secret and behind closed and locked doors. RC Jul 2013 #241

Obviously a large number of people here did not have a clue, and still don't really understand BlueStreak Jul 2013 #261

Considering there are 10,000 posts seeking Zimmerman's head for every post BlueStreak Jul 2013 #9

oh CatWoman Jul 2013 #10

Hey, squirrels deserve better. BTW, I agree with OP. Hoyt Jul 2013 #24

Because of trollish posts like this one, since you know that is a lie. Rex Jul 2013 #14

I will graciously accept your apology now BlueStreak Jul 2013 #173

Let people vent bobduca Jul 2013 #245

It is too much to ask that people needing a decompression pick a dozen threads and vent there? BlueStreak Jul 2013 #255

Today ... bobduca Jul 2013 #256

You are probably right. BlueStreak Jul 2013 #259

+1,000 malaise Jul 2013 #11

I am sure most people on this site agree with you, I certainly do Bjorn Against Jul 2013 #12

It almost seems like there is a vigilante fantasy that's being threatened by this trial. arcane1 Jul 2013 #13

Father!!! CatWoman Jul 2013 #15

Bingo. My particular favorite is the DUer that wrote JanMichael Jul 2013 #51

I guess I'm one of those "apologists"... NaturalHigh Jul 2013 #16

But apparently not so disgusted by Zimmerman who killed a child before the facts came out Bjorn Against Jul 2013 #18

Only an uncivilized person goes around killing people w/o getting the facts. LiberalFighter Jul 2013 #33

That's it for me JustAnotherGen Jul 2013 #77

The facts were clear from the outset burnodo Jul 2013 #20

Zimmerman never said that. NaturalHigh Jul 2013 #21

Probably because they couldn't prove it burnodo Jul 2013 #23

So did I. NaturalHigh Jul 2013 #28

You should see a hearing specialist burnodo Jul 2013 #35

My hearing was fine during my last physical. NaturalHigh Jul 2013 #49

You aren't supposed to remember that. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2013 #156

Yes, they are totally different sounds. Hissyspit Jul 2013 #208

you need your hearing checked as well, Hissy burnodo Jul 2013 #209

I don't need my hearing checked. Hissyspit Jul 2013 #210

Its not about wanting to hear it burnodo Jul 2013 #211

Nope. Hissyspit Jul 2013 #213

You're wrong burnodo Jul 2013 #214

He sure as hell did! nt. polly7 Jul 2013 #25

He's either saying "coons" or "goons" Art_from_Ark Jul 2013 #266

There was so much prosecutors couldn't bring up because they couldn't call Zimmerman to the stand. SleeplessinSoCal Jul 2013 #254

The problem with the tape is there was just enough background noise davidpdx Jul 2013 #206

Do you think he will ever be free to walk around and feel safe again. kimbutgar Jul 2013 #226

not nearly what he deserves burnodo Jul 2013 #234

Fact: Zimmerman was told NOT to persue Martin Cooley Hurd Jul 2013 #22

FACT: The civilian dispatcher had absolutely no authority... NaturalHigh Jul 2013 #26

neither would a fireman but if going against their request cases death that's manslaughter uponit7771 Jul 2013 #32

That's where many of us differ customerserviceguy Jul 2013 #152

No one called it an order - he was advised. Cooley Hurd Jul 2013 #34

a dispatcher can order him DonCoquixote Jul 2013 #40

FACT: Children are TAUGHT to fight when an adult stranger gets close enough to grab them blm Jul 2013 #46

A minor correction: they are told to fight and scream for help. arcane1 Jul 2013 #62

Right - so until Zimmy apologists tell us what they teach their children in their town they blm Jul 2013 #75

I don't recommend losing sleep waiting for that. arcane1 Jul 2013 #109

Nor did Zimmerman have any authority to pursue Martin sarge43 Jul 2013 #89

Yep, and Martin had no idea the cops were on the way. arcane1 Jul 2013 #116

However, you do admit that Zimmerman followed Trayvon. And if that's so, your bullshit Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2013 #96

What authority did Zimmerman have? malokvale77 Jul 2013 #135

He wasn't breaking any laws... NaturalHigh Jul 2013 #139

Earth to NaturalHigh Caretha Jul 2013 #157

Thank You malokvale77 Jul 2013 #166

apparently, it's not illegal in florida. nt tomp Jul 2013 #220

What law was Trayvon breaking, by walking home with Skittles and Tea? malokvale77 Jul 2013 #160

You 100% correct. Obviously the only authority he needed was ... "the gun". ieoeja Jul 2013 #177

BS...I didn't "win" anything. NaturalHigh Jul 2013 #179

Well I make the observation that there must be door prize for the last word, WCLinolVir Jul 2013 #190

Nobody wins? RetroLounge Jul 2013 #268

So would you mind if I followed you with a gun pitbullgirl1965 Jul 2013 #228

Yup, no authority just like Wannabe Zimmerman ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jul 2013 #243

..and told by nwp too, that's almost open and shut manslaughter imho uponit7771 Jul 2013 #27

You would have more credibility if you would answer the question that has been posed to you Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2013 #37

I'd love to hear the answer to that Hugabear Jul 2013 #57

Of course Martin had a right to defend himself... NaturalHigh Jul 2013 #59

You Have Zero Evidence That is A Fact, Sir The Magistrate Jul 2013 #82

If the jury acquits, sir, will you say that they had no facts? NaturalHigh Jul 2013 #83

There Is No Independent Witness To What You Stated As A Fact, Sir The Magistrate Jul 2013 #88

Now I know you're full of shit! Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2013 #90

Indeed, Sir: He Did Let the Mask Slip There.... The Magistrate Jul 2013 #99

I think he's just baiting us, to be perfectly honest. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2013 #104

Legally, the person on trial gets the benefit of the doubt. NaturalHigh Jul 2013 #100

Not In Regard To Veracity, Sir The Magistrate Jul 2013 #107

The "lynch mob" Fox News talking point is nothing more than offensive bullshit. Just Saying Jul 2013 #41

No guessing at all. You are, and your opinion is disgusting. n/t Egalitarian Thug Jul 2013 #42

My opinion that guilt should have to be proven... NaturalHigh Jul 2013 #73

And the one person who could prove it is DEAD!!! Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2013 #102

That's the way that murder trials work. NaturalHigh Jul 2013 #103

But you only give the murderer the benefit of the doubt, not the murdered kid. It's disgusting! Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2013 #105

It's the defendant that needs the benefit of the doubt, because it's his fate that is being decided. freedom fighter jh Jul 2013 #150

If you haven't followed the case closely, how can you be so sure. The dead boy doesn't Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2013 #151

I'm saying only that Zimmerman deserves the same standard of proof as any other criminal defendant. freedom fighter jh Jul 2013 #161

Don't confuse justice with the legal system. WCLinolVir Jul 2013 #191

But not before someone Crunchy Frog Jul 2013 #106

Never mind, you're not worth the effort. Egalitarian Thug Jul 2013 #145

When is it OK to kill a child? Ruby the Liberal Jul 2013 #50

What if the child is trying to kill you? customerserviceguy Jul 2013 #154

If I outweigh someone by 185:158 Ruby the Liberal Jul 2013 #174

You asked a general question customerserviceguy Jul 2013 #242

Some here do not understand the concept of "guilty beyond a reasonable doubt." (n/t) spin Jul 2013 #70

Yeah, I wouldn't want them on the jury if I were on trial. NaturalHigh Jul 2013 #132

I would not you on one either. You comfortably ignore the obvious. WCLinolVir Jul 2013 #193

your use of the term "lynch mob" is very telling Skittles Jul 2013 #130

I have no problem with people who want to discuss the details of the case Just Saying Jul 2013 #17

Recommended. Certain facts cannot be disputed... Cooley Hurd Jul 2013 #19

if Trayvon had punched Zimmerman's bloody nose there would have been blood on Trayvon's hands ZRT2209 Jul 2013 #29

But ..... polly7 Jul 2013 #36

no no MFM008 Jul 2013 #56

I know, just being a smart-ass. polly7 Jul 2013 #66

Especially considering his hands were found underneath his body Bjorn Against Jul 2013 #63

A most salient point. Cooley Hurd Jul 2013 #61

That's just ridiculous. Vattel Jul 2013 #258

Thank you. Adsos Letter Jul 2013 #44

You rock!! Thank you!!! Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2013 #71

I hate the ones in real life, outside of the internet sakabatou Jul 2013 #31

there's a young man at work who is an apologist, CitizenLeft Jul 2013 #38

It's interesting, isn't it? All the gun nuts want EVERYONE armed...everyone except... Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2013 #101

I know - my jaw dropped CitizenLeft Jul 2013 #117

I think he just posted a pic of that gun. He wasn't holding it if I recall. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2013 #144

I've not only never seen a photo like that, didn't know it existed... CitizenLeft Jul 2013 #153

I'm pretty sure it was just a picture of a gun that Trayvon either tweeted or posted on FB... Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2013 #162

I don't think it's his age. There are wingnuts in all age groups including senior citizens. totodeinhere Jul 2013 #235

I know, that's why it so surprised me CitizenLeft Jul 2013 #244

I enjoy that fact people translate having an opinion into you're part of a lynch mob Johonny Jul 2013 #39

Agreed. Nevernose Jul 2013 #67

Yes, a thousand times yes. malokvale77 Jul 2013 #142

Agreed x1000 TommyCelt Jul 2013 #227

I totally agree, that thinking makes absolutely sick and repulsed. nt Raine Jul 2013 #43

Reasoned debate != Zimmerman apologist Chico Man Jul 2013 #45

+1 Shrek Jul 2013 #48

Everyone is entitled to the Presumption of Innocence, bvar22 Jul 2013 #52

The law disagrees with you naaman fletcher Jul 2013 #69

Then you better pray that I'm not on your jury... bvar22 Jul 2013 #175

What do you think ctaylors6 Jul 2013 #80

Word. n/t Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #53

LOL, but the people who know Zimmerman is a "racist" who "chased down" and "executed" Martin Azathoth Jul 2013 #54

Yeah - the double standard is almost laughable. NaturalHigh Jul 2013 #65

The irony/hypocrisy level is definitely off the charts Azathoth Jul 2013 #79

I've seen the troll thing a lot. NaturalHigh Jul 2013 #84

BS. He didn't need to be a racist to be asshole, he didn't need to chase him down, but what WCLinolVir Jul 2013 #199

Damn skippy JanMichael Jul 2013 #55

Crazy thread is crazy!! Nt galileoreloaded Jul 2013 #60

was that your dissertation for your PhD? CatWoman Jul 2013 #87

My studies never covered this level of crazy. Just run of the mill galileoreloaded Jul 2013 #123

Agreed kalisto2010 Jul 2013 #64

you and me both TorchTheWitch Jul 2013 #72

K&R MotherPetrie Jul 2013 #74

I feel the same way, crim son Jul 2013 #76

personally Niceguy1 Jul 2013 #81

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Nope. countingbluecars Jul 2013 #86

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2013 #94

No, a good person would not justify the murder of an unarmed child. Bjorn Against Jul 2013 #92

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I knew this thread wouldn't disappoint. n/t flvegan Jul 2013 #97

My harsh thoughts and opinion is: > BlueJazz Jul 2013 #98

So why no verdict? Chico Man Jul 2013 #108

This isn't long BainsBane Jul 2013 #111

Trayvon's family will surely bring a civil law suit. another_liberal Jul 2013 #114

I hope they win and stick Z for so much $$$ that he will have to grub away for the rest of his life CTyankee Jul 2013 #215

Yes. another_liberal Jul 2013 #221

If Zimmy loses a civil suit there will be plenty of wingnuts and gun nuts totodeinhere Jul 2013 #236

I believe they're just trying to decide which punishment to handout. BlueJazz Jul 2013 #118

Oh.. Chico Man Jul 2013 #127

I don't know the man but I do feel he made some bad choices that he'll have to pay for... BlueJazz Jul 2013 #136

I wouldn't got so far Caretha Jul 2013 #167

If you had Caretha Jul 2013 #165

Racists and gun freaks . . . another_liberal Jul 2013 #112

So what is the jury debating? Chico Man Jul 2013 #131

"Bandwagon emotionalists?" another_liberal Jul 2013 #195

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Yes, just because somebody had a lobotomy that does not necessarily make them a bad person Bjorn Against Jul 2013 #119

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Not necessarilly, they could be debating between murder 2 and manslaughter Bjorn Against Jul 2013 #158

Same here, friend! miked62916 Jul 2013 #115

He could have just stayed in his truck TNNurse Jul 2013 #120

Gungeoneers will go to billh58 Jul 2013 #121

Agreed. mimi85 Jul 2013 #122

Hell is coming Caretha Jul 2013 #176

Well...this is quite a thread you've posted, Miss Kitty jaysunb Jul 2013 #125

kick and I agree. demgrrrll Jul 2013 #128

I HEAR YOU CATGAL Skittles Jul 2013 #129

I'm right there with you, CatWoman! City Lights Jul 2013 #133

The only reason I can think that they defend him is... ReRe Jul 2013 #134

Am I a "Zimmerman apologist"? I think that Zimmerman is a disgusting person, Nye Bevan Jul 2013 #137

No, because you are consistent. You've always leaned Right. Ikonoklast Jul 2013 #184

I'm not sure that this is really a political issue. Nye Bevan Jul 2013 #185

Are you fucking kidding me? MadBadger Jul 2013 #231

100% in agreement. David Zephyr Jul 2013 #140

Ditto. enki23 Jul 2013 #141

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Guess it does. nt countingbluecars Jul 2013 #155

Yes, I am glad to see you admit it. Bjorn Against Jul 2013 #159

For someone to take Zimmerman's side, to them Martin has to be a thug Quixote1818 Jul 2013 #163

Not Guilty malokvale77 Jul 2013 #168

Fucking eh, CatWoman. (nt) NYC_SKP Jul 2013 #170

Disgusting, and this sick verdict makes me nauseous. protect our future Jul 2013 #171

I'd like to know where the eff has MIRT been Kingofalldems Jul 2013 #172

I think MIRT has been doing an excellent job, as always (nt) Nye Bevan Jul 2013 #180

The prosecution got owned budkin Jul 2013 #178

What a fuckingly ignorant thing to say. great white snark Jul 2013 #207

Look I'm not happy but the prosecution was awful budkin Jul 2013 #265

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That's some funny shit you got going there. malokvale77 Jul 2013 #187

I couldn't agree with you more!! Those people, and the jury make me sick. This shows Pisces Jul 2013 #182

I'm sick to my stomach. NealK Jul 2013 #186

Yes, consciously or unconsciously, they assume that Lydia Leftcoast Jul 2013 #189

Me as well, I am basically not posting because I am raging too hard. nt Demo_Chris Jul 2013 #192

I knew this verdict was coming in. enigmatic Jul 2013 #194

+1. "Zimmerman apologists completely and absolutely disgust me.." blkmusclmachine Jul 2013 #196

Zimmerman apologists completely and absolutely disgust me etherealtruth Jul 2013 #197

Now lets turn that disgust into action. We need to lobby the Justice Department totodeinhere Jul 2013 #238

This makes me sick. SoapBox Jul 2013 #198

A man should not be convicted of 2nd degree murder because he exhibited signs of racism wisteria Jul 2013 #200

i think he murdered him because he's racist, yeah. he stalked him for no reason, he called him HiPointDem Jul 2013 #203

You think? You think he murdered him because he was racist? wisteria Jul 2013 #230

"not handled correctly on both sides" = oh, so there's a 'correct' way to handle a fucking stalker? HiPointDem Jul 2013 #247

No, he should be convicted of 2nd degree murder (or higher frankly) TBF Jul 2013 #218

I Agree DallasNE Jul 2013 #225

He went after him, but can you really prove it was to kill him? wisteria Jul 2013 #229

That is why he wasn't convicted for sure - TBF Jul 2013 #263

You think it's bad here? Sparky 1 Jul 2013 #201

I wish the mods would just ban them all tonight. I can't stand to read the trolls with their fake HiPointDem Jul 2013 #202

me too. barbtries Jul 2013 #204

Zimmerman has a target on his back RoccoR5955 Jul 2013 #216

I do not condone any sort of violence in response to this verdict and the Martin family totodeinhere Jul 2013 #239

This was not my opinion... RoccoR5955 Jul 2013 #246

I never said that I condone it. RoccoR5955 Jul 2013 #262

I think he will move his family to Ecuador. SleeplessinSoCal Jul 2013 #253

I just put a post up about how I think the guilty verdict happened. Please check it out. Maraya1969 Jul 2013 #217

K&R. nt DLevine Jul 2013 #219

I don't use ignore, but that may change. CrispyQ Jul 2013 #222

They Are Just Following The Lead Of Mark O'Mara And Don West DallasNE Jul 2013 #223

Justice was served, all right. malthaussen Jul 2013 #224

+ 1,000,000,000... What You Said !!! - K & R !!! WillyT Jul 2013 #232

+1 Blue_Tires Jul 2013 #237

imagine the tune they'd be singing if it was their loved one Zimmerman stalked and murdered Skittles Jul 2013 #248

Yup - in fact all we have to do is imagine Trayvon is white. TBF Jul 2013 #264

There Is No Place In The U.S.Where A Black Teen Can Be Safe Radicalman Jul 2013 #250

ah, the ever-popular message of hate hfojvt Jul 2013 #257

Zimmerman isn't the only guilty one... fadedrose Jul 2013 #260

Hear, hear. smirkymonkey Jul 2013 #267

K & R Scurrilous Jul 2013 #269