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257. ah, the ever-popular message of hate
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 08:41 PM
Jul 2013
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3256505

I see plenty of mistruths and closed minds and lack of logic and embrace of hate on the Zimmerman attacker side.

But I don't hate them back.

"Along the way of life, someone must have sense enough and morality enough to cut off the chain of hate>" Martin Luther King, "Stride toward Freedom" 1958 p. 104
Gun humpers cannot stand the fact that Zimmerman is going down Rex Jul 2013 #1
What is a gun humper Rex? Duckwraps Jul 2013 #58
Pizza Pizza malokvale77 Jul 2013 #126
Someone who loves their weapon as if it's a living being. Boomerproud Jul 2013 #138
I HOPE he's going down. calimary Jul 2013 #68
It sets a horrifying precedent: tblue Jul 2013 #164
The difference lies with the action person B takes... Pelican Jul 2013 #212
Not at all AgingAmerican Jul 2013 #233
How does person B Keefer Jul 2013 #252
What it really is BainsBane Jul 2013 #110
It really doesn't seem like this case is as complicated as it is being made out to be Horse with no Name Jul 2013 #2
I Agree, Ma'am The Magistrate Jul 2013 #3
it could have been my grandson CatWoman Jul 2013 #7
I'm with you, CatWoman...n/t hlthe2b Jul 2013 #4
Very true. nt. countingbluecars Jul 2013 #5
Do you have some names to give us? I have not seen one post of anyone who decided at the outset Honeycombe8 Jul 2013 #6
it's against DU rules to call out people by names CatWoman Jul 2013 #8
Nope. I see posts that link to "example" posts occasionally. There's no problem w/that. Honeycombe8 Jul 2013 #30
You mean like this one? Ruby the Liberal Jul 2013 #47
Thanks for doing the research. crim son Jul 2013 #78
That is just the claptrap blather I ran into late this afternoon... Ruby the Liberal Jul 2013 #146
This poster is all over the place, doin' the 'What Me, Gloatin'?' It's disgusting, dark, puerile. byronius Jul 2013 #249
It's really disgusting that they couldn't wait a few days LuvNewcastle Jul 2013 #251
I guess Honeycomb Caretha Jul 2013 #143
Lots of noobs and sleepers suddenly waking up. Ikonoklast Jul 2013 #169
Why are you bringing this up now? Are you trying to gloat? Not a good time. nm rhett o rick Jul 2013 #188
I have been in a few fights, but only once where I knew the guy was trying to kill me. reusrename Jul 2013 #91
yep d_r Jul 2013 #148
I can't even get past the point tofuandbeer Jul 2013 #205
That, right there, is the tipping point. RC Jul 2013 #240
Pretty much pipi_k Jul 2013 #93
I vote for Caretha Jul 2013 #147
I hear you OwnedByCats Jul 2013 #183
Yeah, nobody on DU has a clue, as the trial was secret and behind closed and locked doors. RC Jul 2013 #241
Obviously a large number of people here did not have a clue, and still don't really understand BlueStreak Jul 2013 #261
Considering there are 10,000 posts seeking Zimmerman's head for every post BlueStreak Jul 2013 #9
oh CatWoman Jul 2013 #10
Hey, squirrels deserve better. BTW, I agree with OP. Hoyt Jul 2013 #24
Because of trollish posts like this one, since you know that is a lie. Rex Jul 2013 #14
I will graciously accept your apology now BlueStreak Jul 2013 #173
Let people vent bobduca Jul 2013 #245
It is too much to ask that people needing a decompression pick a dozen threads and vent there? BlueStreak Jul 2013 #255
Today ... bobduca Jul 2013 #256
You are probably right. BlueStreak Jul 2013 #259
+1,000 malaise Jul 2013 #11
I am sure most people on this site agree with you, I certainly do Bjorn Against Jul 2013 #12
It almost seems like there is a vigilante fantasy that's being threatened by this trial. arcane1 Jul 2013 #13
Father!!! CatWoman Jul 2013 #15
Bingo. My particular favorite is the DUer that wrote JanMichael Jul 2013 #51
I guess I'm one of those "apologists"... NaturalHigh Jul 2013 #16
But apparently not so disgusted by Zimmerman who killed a child before the facts came out Bjorn Against Jul 2013 #18
Only an uncivilized person goes around killing people w/o getting the facts. LiberalFighter Jul 2013 #33
That's it for me JustAnotherGen Jul 2013 #77
The facts were clear from the outset burnodo Jul 2013 #20
Zimmerman never said that. NaturalHigh Jul 2013 #21
Probably because they couldn't prove it burnodo Jul 2013 #23
So did I. NaturalHigh Jul 2013 #28
You should see a hearing specialist burnodo Jul 2013 #35
My hearing was fine during my last physical. NaturalHigh Jul 2013 #49
You aren't supposed to remember that. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2013 #156
Yes, they are totally different sounds. Hissyspit Jul 2013 #208
you need your hearing checked as well, Hissy burnodo Jul 2013 #209
I don't need my hearing checked. Hissyspit Jul 2013 #210
Its not about wanting to hear it burnodo Jul 2013 #211
Nope. Hissyspit Jul 2013 #213
You're wrong burnodo Jul 2013 #214
He sure as hell did! nt. polly7 Jul 2013 #25
He's either saying "coons" or "goons" Art_from_Ark Jul 2013 #266
There was so much prosecutors couldn't bring up because they couldn't call Zimmerman to the stand. SleeplessinSoCal Jul 2013 #254
The problem with the tape is there was just enough background noise davidpdx Jul 2013 #206
Do you think he will ever be free to walk around and feel safe again. kimbutgar Jul 2013 #226
not nearly what he deserves burnodo Jul 2013 #234
Fact: Zimmerman was told NOT to persue Martin Cooley Hurd Jul 2013 #22
FACT: The civilian dispatcher had absolutely no authority... NaturalHigh Jul 2013 #26
neither would a fireman but if going against their request cases death that's manslaughter uponit7771 Jul 2013 #32
That's where many of us differ customerserviceguy Jul 2013 #152
No one called it an order - he was advised. Cooley Hurd Jul 2013 #34
a dispatcher can order him DonCoquixote Jul 2013 #40
FACT: Children are TAUGHT to fight when an adult stranger gets close enough to grab them blm Jul 2013 #46
A minor correction: they are told to fight and scream for help. arcane1 Jul 2013 #62
Right - so until Zimmy apologists tell us what they teach their children in their town they blm Jul 2013 #75
I don't recommend losing sleep waiting for that. arcane1 Jul 2013 #109
Nor did Zimmerman have any authority to pursue Martin sarge43 Jul 2013 #89
Yep, and Martin had no idea the cops were on the way. arcane1 Jul 2013 #116
However, you do admit that Zimmerman followed Trayvon. And if that's so, your bullshit Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2013 #96
What authority did Zimmerman have? malokvale77 Jul 2013 #135
He wasn't breaking any laws... NaturalHigh Jul 2013 #139
Earth to NaturalHigh Caretha Jul 2013 #157
Thank You malokvale77 Jul 2013 #166
apparently, it's not illegal in florida. nt tomp Jul 2013 #220
What law was Trayvon breaking, by walking home with Skittles and Tea? malokvale77 Jul 2013 #160
You 100% correct. Obviously the only authority he needed was ... "the gun". ieoeja Jul 2013 #177
BS...I didn't "win" anything. NaturalHigh Jul 2013 #179
Well I make the observation that there must be door prize for the last word, WCLinolVir Jul 2013 #190
Nobody wins? RetroLounge Jul 2013 #268
So would you mind if I followed you with a gun pitbullgirl1965 Jul 2013 #228
Yup, no authority just like Wannabe Zimmerman ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jul 2013 #243
..and told by nwp too, that's almost open and shut manslaughter imho uponit7771 Jul 2013 #27
You would have more credibility if you would answer the question that has been posed to you Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2013 #37
I'd love to hear the answer to that Hugabear Jul 2013 #57
Of course Martin had a right to defend himself... NaturalHigh Jul 2013 #59
You Have Zero Evidence That is A Fact, Sir The Magistrate Jul 2013 #82
If the jury acquits, sir, will you say that they had no facts? NaturalHigh Jul 2013 #83
There Is No Independent Witness To What You Stated As A Fact, Sir The Magistrate Jul 2013 #88
Now I know you're full of shit! Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2013 #90
Indeed, Sir: He Did Let the Mask Slip There.... The Magistrate Jul 2013 #99
I think he's just baiting us, to be perfectly honest. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2013 #104
Legally, the person on trial gets the benefit of the doubt. NaturalHigh Jul 2013 #100
Not In Regard To Veracity, Sir The Magistrate Jul 2013 #107
The "lynch mob" Fox News talking point is nothing more than offensive bullshit. Just Saying Jul 2013 #41
No guessing at all. You are, and your opinion is disgusting. n/t Egalitarian Thug Jul 2013 #42
My opinion that guilt should have to be proven... NaturalHigh Jul 2013 #73
And the one person who could prove it is DEAD!!! Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2013 #102
That's the way that murder trials work. NaturalHigh Jul 2013 #103
But you only give the murderer the benefit of the doubt, not the murdered kid. It's disgusting! Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2013 #105
It's the defendant that needs the benefit of the doubt, because it's his fate that is being decided. freedom fighter jh Jul 2013 #150
If you haven't followed the case closely, how can you be so sure. The dead boy doesn't Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2013 #151
I'm saying only that Zimmerman deserves the same standard of proof as any other criminal defendant. freedom fighter jh Jul 2013 #161
Don't confuse justice with the legal system. WCLinolVir Jul 2013 #191
But not before someone Crunchy Frog Jul 2013 #106
Never mind, you're not worth the effort. Egalitarian Thug Jul 2013 #145
When is it OK to kill a child? Ruby the Liberal Jul 2013 #50
What if the child is trying to kill you? customerserviceguy Jul 2013 #154
If I outweigh someone by 185:158 Ruby the Liberal Jul 2013 #174
You asked a general question customerserviceguy Jul 2013 #242
Some here do not understand the concept of "guilty beyond a reasonable doubt." (n/t) spin Jul 2013 #70
Yeah, I wouldn't want them on the jury if I were on trial. NaturalHigh Jul 2013 #132
I would not you on one either. You comfortably ignore the obvious. WCLinolVir Jul 2013 #193
your use of the term "lynch mob" is very telling Skittles Jul 2013 #130
I have no problem with people who want to discuss the details of the case Just Saying Jul 2013 #17
Recommended. Certain facts cannot be disputed... Cooley Hurd Jul 2013 #19
if Trayvon had punched Zimmerman's bloody nose there would have been blood on Trayvon's hands ZRT2209 Jul 2013 #29
But ..... polly7 Jul 2013 #36
no no MFM008 Jul 2013 #56
I know, just being a smart-ass. polly7 Jul 2013 #66
Especially considering his hands were found underneath his body Bjorn Against Jul 2013 #63
A most salient point. Cooley Hurd Jul 2013 #61
That's just ridiculous. Vattel Jul 2013 #258
Thank you. Adsos Letter Jul 2013 #44
You rock!! Thank you!!! Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2013 #71
I hate the ones in real life, outside of the internet sakabatou Jul 2013 #31
there's a young man at work who is an apologist, CitizenLeft Jul 2013 #38
It's interesting, isn't it? All the gun nuts want EVERYONE armed...everyone except... Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2013 #101
I know - my jaw dropped CitizenLeft Jul 2013 #117
I think he just posted a pic of that gun. He wasn't holding it if I recall. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2013 #144
I've not only never seen a photo like that, didn't know it existed... CitizenLeft Jul 2013 #153
I'm pretty sure it was just a picture of a gun that Trayvon either tweeted or posted on FB... Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2013 #162
I don't think it's his age. There are wingnuts in all age groups including senior citizens. totodeinhere Jul 2013 #235
I know, that's why it so surprised me CitizenLeft Jul 2013 #244
I enjoy that fact people translate having an opinion into you're part of a lynch mob Johonny Jul 2013 #39
Agreed. Nevernose Jul 2013 #67
Yes, a thousand times yes. malokvale77 Jul 2013 #142
Agreed x1000 TommyCelt Jul 2013 #227
I totally agree, that thinking makes absolutely sick and repulsed. nt Raine Jul 2013 #43
Reasoned debate != Zimmerman apologist Chico Man Jul 2013 #45
+1 Shrek Jul 2013 #48
Everyone is entitled to the Presumption of Innocence, bvar22 Jul 2013 #52
The law disagrees with you naaman fletcher Jul 2013 #69
Then you better pray that I'm not on your jury... bvar22 Jul 2013 #175
What do you think ctaylors6 Jul 2013 #80
Word. n/t Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #53
LOL, but the people who know Zimmerman is a "racist" who "chased down" and "executed" Martin Azathoth Jul 2013 #54
Yeah - the double standard is almost laughable. NaturalHigh Jul 2013 #65
The irony/hypocrisy level is definitely off the charts Azathoth Jul 2013 #79
I've seen the troll thing a lot. NaturalHigh Jul 2013 #84
BS. He didn't need to be a racist to be asshole, he didn't need to chase him down, but what WCLinolVir Jul 2013 #199
Damn skippy JanMichael Jul 2013 #55
Crazy thread is crazy!! Nt galileoreloaded Jul 2013 #60
was that your dissertation for your PhD? CatWoman Jul 2013 #87
My studies never covered this level of crazy. Just run of the mill galileoreloaded Jul 2013 #123
Agreed kalisto2010 Jul 2013 #64
you and me both TorchTheWitch Jul 2013 #72
K&R MotherPetrie Jul 2013 #74
I feel the same way, crim son Jul 2013 #76
personally Niceguy1 Jul 2013 #81
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2013 #85
Nope. countingbluecars Jul 2013 #86
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2013 #94
No, a good person would not justify the murder of an unarmed child. Bjorn Against Jul 2013 #92
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2013 #95
I knew this thread wouldn't disappoint. n/t flvegan Jul 2013 #97
My harsh thoughts and opinion is: > BlueJazz Jul 2013 #98
So why no verdict? Chico Man Jul 2013 #108
This isn't long BainsBane Jul 2013 #111
Trayvon's family will surely bring a civil law suit. another_liberal Jul 2013 #114
I hope they win and stick Z for so much $$$ that he will have to grub away for the rest of his life CTyankee Jul 2013 #215
Yes. another_liberal Jul 2013 #221
If Zimmy loses a civil suit there will be plenty of wingnuts and gun nuts totodeinhere Jul 2013 #236
I believe they're just trying to decide which punishment to handout. BlueJazz Jul 2013 #118
Oh.. Chico Man Jul 2013 #127
I don't know the man but I do feel he made some bad choices that he'll have to pay for... BlueJazz Jul 2013 #136
I wouldn't got so far Caretha Jul 2013 #167
If you had Caretha Jul 2013 #165
Racists and gun freaks . . . another_liberal Jul 2013 #112
So what is the jury debating? Chico Man Jul 2013 #131
"Bandwagon emotionalists?" another_liberal Jul 2013 #195
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2013 #113
Yes, just because somebody had a lobotomy that does not necessarily make them a bad person Bjorn Against Jul 2013 #119
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2013 #124
Not necessarilly, they could be debating between murder 2 and manslaughter Bjorn Against Jul 2013 #158
Same here, friend! miked62916 Jul 2013 #115
He could have just stayed in his truck TNNurse Jul 2013 #120
Gungeoneers will go to billh58 Jul 2013 #121
Agreed. mimi85 Jul 2013 #122
Hell is coming Caretha Jul 2013 #176
Well...this is quite a thread you've posted, Miss Kitty jaysunb Jul 2013 #125
kick and I agree. demgrrrll Jul 2013 #128
I HEAR YOU CATGAL Skittles Jul 2013 #129
I'm right there with you, CatWoman! City Lights Jul 2013 #133
The only reason I can think that they defend him is... ReRe Jul 2013 #134
Am I a "Zimmerman apologist"? I think that Zimmerman is a disgusting person, Nye Bevan Jul 2013 #137
No, because you are consistent. You've always leaned Right. Ikonoklast Jul 2013 #184
I'm not sure that this is really a political issue. Nye Bevan Jul 2013 #185
Are you fucking kidding me? MadBadger Jul 2013 #231
100% in agreement. David Zephyr Jul 2013 #140
Ditto. enki23 Jul 2013 #141
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2013 #149
Guess it does. nt countingbluecars Jul 2013 #155
Yes, I am glad to see you admit it. Bjorn Against Jul 2013 #159
For someone to take Zimmerman's side, to them Martin has to be a thug Quixote1818 Jul 2013 #163
Not Guilty malokvale77 Jul 2013 #168
Fucking eh, CatWoman. (nt) NYC_SKP Jul 2013 #170
Disgusting, and this sick verdict makes me nauseous. protect our future Jul 2013 #171
I'd like to know where the eff has MIRT been Kingofalldems Jul 2013 #172
I think MIRT has been doing an excellent job, as always (nt) Nye Bevan Jul 2013 #180
The prosecution got owned budkin Jul 2013 #178
What a fuckingly ignorant thing to say. great white snark Jul 2013 #207
Look I'm not happy but the prosecution was awful budkin Jul 2013 #265
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That's some funny shit you got going there. malokvale77 Jul 2013 #187
I couldn't agree with you more!! Those people, and the jury make me sick. This shows Pisces Jul 2013 #182
I'm sick to my stomach. NealK Jul 2013 #186
Yes, consciously or unconsciously, they assume that Lydia Leftcoast Jul 2013 #189
Me as well, I am basically not posting because I am raging too hard. nt Demo_Chris Jul 2013 #192
I knew this verdict was coming in. enigmatic Jul 2013 #194
+1. "Zimmerman apologists completely and absolutely disgust me.." blkmusclmachine Jul 2013 #196
Zimmerman apologists completely and absolutely disgust me etherealtruth Jul 2013 #197
Now lets turn that disgust into action. We need to lobby the Justice Department totodeinhere Jul 2013 #238
This makes me sick. SoapBox Jul 2013 #198
A man should not be convicted of 2nd degree murder because he exhibited signs of racism wisteria Jul 2013 #200
i think he murdered him because he's racist, yeah. he stalked him for no reason, he called him HiPointDem Jul 2013 #203
You think? You think he murdered him because he was racist? wisteria Jul 2013 #230
"not handled correctly on both sides" = oh, so there's a 'correct' way to handle a fucking stalker? HiPointDem Jul 2013 #247
No, he should be convicted of 2nd degree murder (or higher frankly) TBF Jul 2013 #218
I Agree DallasNE Jul 2013 #225
He went after him, but can you really prove it was to kill him? wisteria Jul 2013 #229
That is why he wasn't convicted for sure - TBF Jul 2013 #263
You think it's bad here? Sparky 1 Jul 2013 #201
I wish the mods would just ban them all tonight. I can't stand to read the trolls with their fake HiPointDem Jul 2013 #202
me too. barbtries Jul 2013 #204
Zimmerman has a target on his back RoccoR5955 Jul 2013 #216
I do not condone any sort of violence in response to this verdict and the Martin family totodeinhere Jul 2013 #239
This was not my opinion... RoccoR5955 Jul 2013 #246
I never said that I condone it. RoccoR5955 Jul 2013 #262
I think he will move his family to Ecuador. SleeplessinSoCal Jul 2013 #253
I just put a post up about how I think the guilty verdict happened. Please check it out. Maraya1969 Jul 2013 #217
K&R. nt DLevine Jul 2013 #219
I don't use ignore, but that may change. CrispyQ Jul 2013 #222
They Are Just Following The Lead Of Mark O'Mara And Don West DallasNE Jul 2013 #223
Justice was served, all right. malthaussen Jul 2013 #224
+ 1,000,000,000... What You Said !!! - K & R !!! WillyT Jul 2013 #232
+1 Blue_Tires Jul 2013 #237
imagine the tune they'd be singing if it was their loved one Zimmerman stalked and murdered Skittles Jul 2013 #248
Yup - in fact all we have to do is imagine Trayvon is white. TBF Jul 2013 #264
There Is No Place In The U.S.Where A Black Teen Can Be Safe Radicalman Jul 2013 #250
ah, the ever-popular message of hate hfojvt Jul 2013 #257
Zimmerman isn't the only guilty one... fadedrose Jul 2013 #260
Hear, hear. smirkymonkey Jul 2013 #267
K & R Scurrilous Jul 2013 #269
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