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Response to Jessy169 (Reply #31)

Mon Jul 15, 2013, 10:31 PM

58. I reject this 100% (nothing personal, because I know my opinion is just that...opinion)

The idea that this is part of a grand plan is folly.

If there were really a plan out there, it would not make sense to capture the market on fossil fuel-driven growth economies, drive out any meaningful competition and rule with impunity and without creditable challenge, only to turn around and starve it all of the oil and gas needed to thrive WITHOUT REPLACING THE SOURCE OF ENERGY. If you control everything, then the "plan" is not to kill people off or reduce everyone's standard of living...the plan is to control the NEXT means of production and energy and then kill off enough people to terrify the poor and keep those who are moderately well-off comparatively scared to death of becoming poor themselves. Just another way of saying you can always afford to pay one half of the people to kill the other half for a pittance of what it would cost to do it yourself!

Is it possible that this is happening by accident or through plain old abject greed and utter lack of vision? ABSOLUTELY!

Is it likely that there is a cabal of highly enriched white men hiding in the Swiss Alps hatching grandiose plans of domination and population control while all the while ignoring the fact that in doing so they will inherently destroy the society and luxury items that they have come to adore? (CARS? BOATS? HOUSES? PLANES? MOBILITY? COMMUNICATIONS? COMPUTERS? LITTLE PEOPLE TO MAKE THEM FEEL SO BIG AND SUCCESSFUL?)

To that, I say hell no. They are callous and uncaring and self-absorbed, but they are not at the heart of anything more than a simple equation:

HATE + IGNORANCE = DESPERATION (and desperation turns any man against his own principles and into a pawn or puppet or both...)

If they can stoke enough hate - hate of race, hate of creed, hate of sexual acts, hate of "the other", hate of gays, hate of blacks, hate of hispanics, hate of asians, hate of 'atheists' and secularists and humanists and Thomas Jefferson for fuck's sake!!!; and at the same time utilize their bought and paid for politicians and media trained monkeys to lie and obfuscate to the public and keep 50% of the morons in this country believing in a 6,000 year old earth or doubting the links between CO2 and global climate change (by recycling the EXACT SAME FUCKING ARGUMENTS ONCE USED TO CAST DOUBT ON THE LINKAGE OF CANCER AND CIGARETTE SMOKING!!!) or not even knowing the capital of their own state, or being unable to even name one of their 2 United States senators, or remaining totally befuddled by basic scientific principles like the difference between a "hypothesis" and a "theory" (or why a scientific theory is NOT a conjecture or guess!@$!#!&*^!!)....as long as they can do all of this, then that IS THE PLAN, full stop.

This are people with fortunes and power beyond reason and beyond measure in some ways...save one - they too are mortal and will die the same as everyone else...somewhere, if there are meetings being held in secret to determine the fate of the species, someone is in that room telling these people of power that they cannot kill off the poor to rebuild a more pliable society for themselves to rule...they CAN force their way to the control of new technologies and new ways of extracting energy for productive use and thereby extend their dominance over mankind for another millennium, but not if they engender so much hate that it gets turned on them instead of on the other half of the poor...

The rich do not appear to be plotting to me...they appear to be idiot-savants, entranced by a flame and holding onto the match too long...

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