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Moostache

(9,895 posts)
58. I reject this 100% (nothing personal, because I know my opinion is just that...opinion)
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 10:31 PM
Jul 2013

The idea that this is part of a grand plan is folly.

If there were really a plan out there, it would not make sense to capture the market on fossil fuel-driven growth economies, drive out any meaningful competition and rule with impunity and without creditable challenge, only to turn around and starve it all of the oil and gas needed to thrive WITHOUT REPLACING THE SOURCE OF ENERGY. If you control everything, then the "plan" is not to kill people off or reduce everyone's standard of living...the plan is to control the NEXT means of production and energy and then kill off enough people to terrify the poor and keep those who are moderately well-off comparatively scared to death of becoming poor themselves. Just another way of saying you can always afford to pay one half of the people to kill the other half for a pittance of what it would cost to do it yourself!

Is it possible that this is happening by accident or through plain old abject greed and utter lack of vision? ABSOLUTELY!

Is it likely that there is a cabal of highly enriched white men hiding in the Swiss Alps hatching grandiose plans of domination and population control while all the while ignoring the fact that in doing so they will inherently destroy the society and luxury items that they have come to adore? (CARS? BOATS? HOUSES? PLANES? MOBILITY? COMMUNICATIONS? COMPUTERS? LITTLE PEOPLE TO MAKE THEM FEEL SO BIG AND SUCCESSFUL?)

To that, I say hell no. They are callous and uncaring and self-absorbed, but they are not at the heart of anything more than a simple equation:

HATE + IGNORANCE = DESPERATION (and desperation turns any man against his own principles and into a pawn or puppet or both...)

If they can stoke enough hate - hate of race, hate of creed, hate of sexual acts, hate of "the other", hate of gays, hate of blacks, hate of hispanics, hate of asians, hate of 'atheists' and secularists and humanists and Thomas Jefferson for fuck's sake!!!; and at the same time utilize their bought and paid for politicians and media trained monkeys to lie and obfuscate to the public and keep 50% of the morons in this country believing in a 6,000 year old earth or doubting the links between CO2 and global climate change (by recycling the EXACT SAME FUCKING ARGUMENTS ONCE USED TO CAST DOUBT ON THE LINKAGE OF CANCER AND CIGARETTE SMOKING!!!) or not even knowing the capital of their own state, or being unable to even name one of their 2 United States senators, or remaining totally befuddled by basic scientific principles like the difference between a "hypothesis" and a "theory" (or why a scientific theory is NOT a conjecture or guess!@$!#!&*^!!)....as long as they can do all of this, then that IS THE PLAN, full stop.

This are people with fortunes and power beyond reason and beyond measure in some ways...save one - they too are mortal and will die the same as everyone else...somewhere, if there are meetings being held in secret to determine the fate of the species, someone is in that room telling these people of power that they cannot kill off the poor to rebuild a more pliable society for themselves to rule...they CAN force their way to the control of new technologies and new ways of extracting energy for productive use and thereby extend their dominance over mankind for another millennium, but not if they engender so much hate that it gets turned on them instead of on the other half of the poor...

The rich do not appear to be plotting to me...they appear to be idiot-savants, entranced by a flame and holding onto the match too long...

K&R marions ghost Jul 2013 #1
Checks & Balances are what They've deleted .... orpupilofnature57 Jul 2013 #3
They are systematically deleting the Constitution. nt woo me with science Jul 2013 #44
Maybe next time they're all together you could tell them . orpupilofnature57 Jul 2013 #2
"The money is there to solve these problems -- if our leaders wanted to solve them." Fumesucker Jul 2013 #4
Perhaps, it's just that he-- chervilant Jul 2013 #8
I still believe in the inherent goodness of humankind truebluegreen Jul 2013 #27
"We're Broke!" is the biggest lie of our age. reformist2 Jul 2013 #70
K&R...n/t ms liberty Jul 2013 #5
And, the band plays on... chervilant Jul 2013 #6
Majority of Americans today are brainwashed sheepie, not caring, not understanding and I think RKP5637 Jul 2013 #16
On top of that BobbyBoring Jul 2013 #41
Yep, well said! As we used to say in one of the companies I worked for ... RKP5637 Jul 2013 #68
Yeah, they have a plan to deal with catastrophic climate change and the global resource Warren Stupidity Jul 2013 #7
The Oligarchs Own The Politicians And Control The System For Their Benefit - To Hell With The Proles cantbeserious Jul 2013 #9
and the Corporate controlled M$M enables it through its complicity. watoos Jul 2013 #11
I regard the M$M as the propaganda masters. nt snappyturtle Jul 2013 #23
anti trust laws abelenkpe Jul 2013 #60
k&r for exposure. n/t Laelth Jul 2013 #10
Yesterday was Bastille Day The Wizard Jul 2013 #12
The heads of some CEOs & Board members need to roll, too. CrispyQ Jul 2013 #26
Post removed Post removed Jul 2013 #30
Love that pic corkhead Jul 2013 #56
It reminds me of some bad old days..... AverageJoe90 Jul 2013 #57
Remind me when we left those bad old days? Hydra Jul 2013 #64
The ONLY fights we have made ANY movement to the Left on are LGBT, bvar22 Jul 2013 #72
Oh, I agree Hydra Jul 2013 #73
oops, on second thought... corkhead Jul 2013 #69
Could they at least get WalMart SCVDem Jul 2013 #13
Best post I've seen on DU for awhile - TBF Jul 2013 #14
They stumble with blinders on and fall hook line and sinker for all types of propaganda, becoming RKP5637 Jul 2013 #17
+1 woo me with science Jul 2013 #43
du rec. xchrom Jul 2013 #15
K. & R. Rochester Jul 2013 #18
TPP and TTIP Marblehead Jul 2013 #19
Yeah. Zorra Jul 2013 #20
Eloquent summation of the great demise.K&R nt snappyturtle Jul 2013 #21
K&R. I say we demand and elect politicians willing to pass CCFR, Complete Campaign Finance Reform! Dustlawyer Jul 2013 #22
k/r marmar Jul 2013 #24
Wish I could rec this about a million times CanonRay Jul 2013 #25
Excellent article. The truth is here: CrispyQ Jul 2013 #28
Exactly right. truebluegreen Jul 2013 #29
There IS a method behind their madness Jessy169 Jul 2013 #31
Interesting. RedCappedBandit Jul 2013 #37
Yes I think that is exactly what is going on too. LiberalLoner Jul 2013 #52
I reject this 100% (nothing personal, because I know my opinion is just that...opinion) Moostache Jul 2013 #58
I agree with you on many points Jessy169 Jul 2013 #74
K&R. nt DLevine Jul 2013 #32
K&R woo me with science Jul 2013 #33
Everything the MSM allows us to bicker about is a distraction RedCappedBandit Jul 2013 #36
A few of us recognize this. Enthusiast Jul 2013 #66
Hey billionaires!! How are you going to continue to siphon wealth.... Initech Jul 2013 #34
It's not about the money at that level, they already have far more than they could ever need. Egalitarian Thug Jul 2013 #35
At a certain point, they won't be able to work together to the extent they do now. RedCappedBandit Jul 2013 #39
Exactly. They, as a group, are precisely the wrong people to achieve anything positive. Egalitarian Thug Jul 2013 #40
KnR. Threads such as this are why I continue to come to DU RedCappedBandit Jul 2013 #38
The hell with humanity! Thankfully, the rich'll be A-OK in floating cities... Octafish Jul 2013 #42
Floating castles--otherwise known as Sitting Ducks Demeter Jul 2013 #46
The 1% are delusional Demeter Jul 2013 #45
Parasites are exactly what they are duffyduff Jul 2013 #50
Yup. LiberalLoner Jul 2013 #53
Despite the celebratory messages from the White House and MSM.... bvar22 Jul 2013 #47
^^^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^^^^ woo me with science Jul 2013 #48
Thanks, but I am deeply ashamed of the World I am leaving to my children and grandchildren. bvar22 Jul 2013 #51
No doubt nolabels Jul 2013 #65
k&r avaistheone1 Jul 2013 #75
Absolutely. K&R. nt. polly7 Jul 2013 #49
. blkmusclmachine Jul 2013 #54
DURec leftstreet Jul 2013 #55
so much for the 3-legged stool SnakebiteSnakebite74 Jul 2013 #59
I wish to God I could argue with you on this, even just a little 99th_Monkey Jul 2013 #61
esponce to 99monkey political_battle Jul 2013 #62
Which "they" are you referring to? 99th_Monkey Jul 2013 #63
Thank you. Kicked and Recommended. Enthusiast Jul 2013 #67
Yet people keep voting for them, voting to empower them. Waiting For Everyman Jul 2013 #71
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