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7. A NY felony trial jury 12 members and up to 6 alternates...
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 06:30 PM
Jul 2013

For a civil trial there are usually six jurors plus up to four alternates. The jury for lesser criminal charges, including misdemeanors, also has six jurors and up to four alternates.

Well a juror said it did make a difference! It's the same propaganda controlling the Snowdon story SugarShack Jul 2013 #1
That was the entire point of my thread. SYG instructions OBLITERATE manslaughter laws. blm Jul 2013 #2
Yep. You got it. (nt) LuckyTheDog Jul 2013 #3
Comparision LuckyTheDog Jul 2013 #4
What about the victim? Historic NY Jul 2013 #6
Not in Florida (nt) LuckyTheDog Jul 2013 #8
As we have seen the law gives rise to vigilante style Historic NY Jul 2013 #9
Yes...But not according to the jury Tippy Jul 2013 #12
Your point? Igel Jul 2013 #15
MY point is from a LE prospective ... Historic NY Jul 2013 #49
Absolutely true if Zimmerman initiated the physical violence... Pelican Jul 2013 #53
The jury was wrong! hrmjustin Jul 2013 #55
I'm surprised to learn that Florida has 6 person juries for felony cases. tanyev Jul 2013 #5
A NY felony trial jury 12 members and up to 6 alternates... Historic NY Jul 2013 #7
Connecticut I think does it too....along with sometimes Texas davidn3600 Jul 2013 #34
I've never heard of it in Texas. tanyev Jul 2013 #52
It's not spin. You're not understanding the law. DirkGently Jul 2013 #10
Except the jury hung their hats on the SYG instructions. Instructions that TRUMP the blm Jul 2013 #13
Please explain what you mean by that. DirkGently Jul 2013 #14
The jurors were given instructions on Stand your ground blm Jul 2013 #47
The defense didn't have to invoke SYG. It still applied. LuckyTheDog Jul 2013 #17
You still have to argue it. Explain how / when that happened. DirkGently Jul 2013 #18
You are just wrong LuckyTheDog Jul 2013 #21
No, dude, YOU are just wrong. Explain how SYG applied. DirkGently Jul 2013 #24
There was no SYG hearing LuckyTheDog Jul 2013 #27
Your OP is that SYG had "everything to do with the acquittal." FALSE. DirkGently Jul 2013 #30
If not for the re-definition of self defense thanks to SYG, Zimmerman probably would be in prison LuckyTheDog Jul 2013 #33
No. Any evidence countering Martin pinning Zimm would be huge. DirkGently Jul 2013 #46
Query re actual versus perceived danger. Jim Lane Jul 2013 #50
Actually, yes. There's a special hearing to determine if the defendant's actions are covered by SYG. X_Digger Jul 2013 #36
You are saying that Trayvon attacked Zimmerman? cthulu2016 Jul 2013 #11
Not saying that at all LuckyTheDog Jul 2013 #16
I read the law before it was fashionable. I am a law-reader by nature. cthulu2016 Jul 2013 #19
Sigh. Read the jury instructions. LuckyTheDog Jul 2013 #22
The Zimmerman apologists will not back down on this MattBaggins Jul 2013 #54
Maybe you should cite the language you're talking about. DirkGently Jul 2013 #20
You're not going to make any headway, I fear. COLGATE4 Jul 2013 #23
Jesus Christ, I swore I was done with this topic, but the ignorance burns. DirkGently Jul 2013 #25
I hear you loud and clear. COLGATE4 Jul 2013 #26
So, the instructions from the judge... LuckyTheDog Jul 2013 #28
Regarding "duty to flee?" No. How do you think otherwise? DirkGently Jul 2013 #40
Maybe this will help clear up confusion ctaylors6 Jul 2013 #29
So, basically... LuckyTheDog Jul 2013 #31
I think you've got it ctaylors6 Jul 2013 #39
No, it did not redefine anything. X_Digger Jul 2013 #42
I doubt Martin was on top of him the entire time, if ever LuckyTheDog Jul 2013 #51
Without SYG, it would have been the exact same case. X_Digger Jul 2013 #56
Nicely put. But SYG deals only with the duty to flee, which did not arise. DirkGently Jul 2013 #32
It changed the case LuckyTheDog Jul 2013 #35
Arguments like what? DirkGently Jul 2013 #43
It seems to me that you're essentially arguing anomiep Jul 2013 #44
Elaborate Lurks Often Jul 2013 #45
I am totally confused about this SYG issue LittleBlue Jul 2013 #37
Not many folks around DU understand SYG. I'd suggest statute research, Decoy of Fenris Jul 2013 #38
There is an immunity element of SYG for both civil and criminal DirkGently Jul 2013 #41
For all Zimmy knew, those skittles were packed with explosives. BootinUp Jul 2013 #48
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