As we have seen the law gives rise to vigilante style (Reply #9)

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Tue Jul 16, 2013, 06:44 PM

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9. As we have seen the law gives rise to vigilante style

justice, where the fmr defendant disobeyed the police by taking his own action.

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56 replies	Author	Time	Post
Don't buy the spin. SYG had everything to do with Zimmerman's acquittal [View all]	LuckyTheDog	Jul 2013	OP
Well a juror said it did make a difference! It's the same propaganda controlling the Snowdon story	SugarShack	Jul 2013	#1
That was the entire point of my thread. SYG instructions OBLITERATE manslaughter laws.	blm	Jul 2013	#2
Yep. You got it. (nt)	LuckyTheDog	Jul 2013	#3
Comparision	LuckyTheDog	Jul 2013	#4
What about the victim?	Historic NY	Jul 2013	#6
Not in Florida (nt)	LuckyTheDog	Jul 2013	#8
As we have seen the law gives rise to vigilante style	Historic NY	Jul 2013	#9
Yes...But not according to the jury	Tippy	Jul 2013	#12
Your point?	Igel	Jul 2013	#15
MY point is from a LE prospective ...	Historic NY	Jul 2013	#49
Absolutely true if Zimmerman initiated the physical violence...	Pelican	Jul 2013	#53
The jury was wrong!	hrmjustin	Jul 2013	#55
I'm surprised to learn that Florida has 6 person juries for felony cases.	tanyev	Jul 2013	#5
A NY felony trial jury 12 members and up to 6 alternates...	Historic NY	Jul 2013	#7
Connecticut I think does it too....along with sometimes Texas	davidn3600	Jul 2013	#34
I've never heard of it in Texas.	tanyev	Jul 2013	#52
It's not spin. You're not understanding the law.	DirkGently	Jul 2013	#10
Except the jury hung their hats on the SYG instructions. Instructions that TRUMP the	blm	Jul 2013	#13
Please explain what you mean by that.	DirkGently	Jul 2013	#14
The jurors were given instructions on Stand your ground	blm	Jul 2013	#47
The defense didn't have to invoke SYG. It still applied.	LuckyTheDog	Jul 2013	#17
You still have to argue it. Explain how / when that happened.	DirkGently	Jul 2013	#18
You are just wrong	LuckyTheDog	Jul 2013	#21
No, dude, YOU are just wrong. Explain how SYG applied.	DirkGently	Jul 2013	#24
There was no SYG hearing	LuckyTheDog	Jul 2013	#27
Your OP is that SYG had "everything to do with the acquittal." FALSE.	DirkGently	Jul 2013	#30
If not for the re-definition of self defense thanks to SYG, Zimmerman probably would be in prison	LuckyTheDog	Jul 2013	#33
No. Any evidence countering Martin pinning Zimm would be huge.	DirkGently	Jul 2013	#46
Query re actual versus perceived danger.	Jim Lane	Jul 2013	#50
Actually, yes. There's a special hearing to determine if the defendant's actions are covered by SYG.	X_Digger	Jul 2013	#36
You are saying that Trayvon attacked Zimmerman?	cthulu2016	Jul 2013	#11
Not saying that at all	LuckyTheDog	Jul 2013	#16
I read the law before it was fashionable. I am a law-reader by nature.	cthulu2016	Jul 2013	#19
Sigh. Read the jury instructions.	LuckyTheDog	Jul 2013	#22
The Zimmerman apologists will not back down on this	MattBaggins	Jul 2013	#54
Maybe you should cite the language you're talking about.	DirkGently	Jul 2013	#20
You're not going to make any headway, I fear.	COLGATE4	Jul 2013	#23
Jesus Christ, I swore I was done with this topic, but the ignorance burns.	DirkGently	Jul 2013	#25
I hear you loud and clear.	COLGATE4	Jul 2013	#26
So, the instructions from the judge...	LuckyTheDog	Jul 2013	#28
Regarding "duty to flee?" No. How do you think otherwise?	DirkGently	Jul 2013	#40
Maybe this will help clear up confusion	ctaylors6	Jul 2013	#29
So, basically...	LuckyTheDog	Jul 2013	#31
I think you've got it	ctaylors6	Jul 2013	#39
No, it did not redefine anything.	X_Digger	Jul 2013	#42
I doubt Martin was on top of him the entire time, if ever	LuckyTheDog	Jul 2013	#51
Without SYG, it would have been the exact same case.	X_Digger	Jul 2013	#56
Nicely put. But SYG deals only with the duty to flee, which did not arise.	DirkGently	Jul 2013	#32
It changed the case	LuckyTheDog	Jul 2013	#35
Arguments like what?	DirkGently	Jul 2013	#43
It seems to me that you're essentially arguing	anomiep	Jul 2013	#44
Elaborate	Lurks Often	Jul 2013	#45
I am totally confused about this SYG issue	LittleBlue	Jul 2013	#37
Not many folks around DU understand SYG. I'd suggest statute research,	Decoy of Fenris	Jul 2013	#38
There is an immunity element of SYG for both civil and criminal	DirkGently	Jul 2013	#41
For all Zimmy knew, those skittles were packed with explosives.	BootinUp	Jul 2013	#48

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