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Ilsa

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122. Yes, it's been there for over three decades.

Sun Jul 28, 2013, 09:46 AM

Jul 2013

I have an old friend whose spouse worked there. There are refineries further down-river, too, closer to the Port of Corpus Christi.

I was talking about the drilling in LOC being mostly for natural gas, not oil, and that I agree about the term "production" vs "extraction." And "refining" should be the term, not "producing", just for cleanup and turning crude into higher grade crude or gasoline.

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TX to replace asphalt roads with GRAVEL. [View all] elehhhhna Jul 2013 OP

TX to replace asphalt roads with GRAVEL. Hayduke Bomgarte Jul 2013 #1

Have they closed all the rest stops on the interstates? Lasher Jul 2013 #2

I went through a year ago - they were all open FreakinDJ Jul 2013 #6

Yes, they couldn't impose this on Iraq caseymoz Jul 2013 #37

They weren't all open, more closed now, and they all get more overgrown than they used to. Dustlawyer Jul 2013 #117

Rest Stops in Texas are where the shrubs get thick.... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2013 #113

all the gas tax money that used to be earmarked for roads now goes into the general revenue hobbit709 Jul 2013 #3

and the only new roads we're building are toll roads elehhhhna Jul 2013 #17

Most of them surrounding Moscow-on-the-Colorado... Eleanors38 Jul 2013 #53

And nobody here takes them. hobbit709 Jul 2013 #59

I have yet to take one. Eleanors38 Jul 2013 #60

"...-on-the-Colorado..."? truebluegreen Jul 2013 #69

Learn your Texas geography, son. There is indeed a Colorado River flowing through Austin. Comrade Grumpy Jul 2013 #78

Sorry, but there can be only One. truebluegreen Jul 2013 #79

There are TWO Colorado Rivers in the US. One, the one you probably know, runs WEST..... northoftheborder Jul 2013 #80

Thanks. I was shocked but I looked it up and you and previous poster are right. truebluegreen Jul 2013 #82

There's more than one Colorado. The "Texas Colorado" Eleanors38 Jul 2013 #125

Yep. Got it. truebluegreen Jul 2013 #126

and most toll roads are outsourced, Dont_Bogart_the_Pretzel Jul 2013 #92

The state's responsibilities are roads and schools HubertHeaver Jul 2013 #107

Well, TX was **founded** as a 19th century Third World country ... ;^) eppur_se_muova Jul 2013 #110

back in the late 40s and early 50s my uncle, a TX state senator and a Democrat, wrote legislation CTyankee Jul 2013 #124

Maybe you have to be an old, life-long Texan like me...... Paladin Jul 2013 #128

you have to wonder what Goodhair is thinking. This is taking "the least government is the best CTyankee Jul 2013 #133

Agreed. Even by Rick Perry's low standards, this is is a standout stupid move. (nt) Paladin Jul 2013 #134

Plans to move backward . . . to the Great Depression. leveymg Jul 2013 #4

Molly Ivins used to call Texas, Mississippi with good roads dsc Jul 2013 #5

Damn, I miss her. reusrename Jul 2013 #8

Nope, that would be Indiana. Brigid Jul 2013 #93

The highways are great (Federal funds, ya know) but the local roads are terrible. eppur_se_muova Jul 2013 #111

Welcome to Texass... 99Forever Jul 2013 #7

Soon the infrastructure will reduce them to covered wagons and burros. onehandle Jul 2013 #9

You said burro, and I thought of Rick Perry. Kennah Jul 2013 #64

And Guv. Hee Haw thinks asphalt is a butt disease. BornLooser Jul 2013 #118

The American Taliban hard at work going back to biblical times,. . Civilization2 Jul 2013 #10

They used the asphalt to fill their empty heads. There is none left. appleannie1 Jul 2013 #11

Texans love their roads... this is a very bad sign for Repbublicans JCMach1 Jul 2013 #12

This just in . . TX to replace Governor with hot air balloon. Major Hogwash Jul 2013 #13

Our thread winner. Brigid Jul 2013 #22

Heh!!! northoftheborder Jul 2013 #84

I have the solution for that davidpdx Jul 2013 #101

Ah hell, it's Texas Ravens.Ransom Jul 2013 #104

I think a large bamboo tube and a dart would do davidpdx Jul 2013 #105

Freedumb frum EEVUL TAXIS!!!! hatrack Jul 2013 #14

lol ctsnowman Jul 2013 #16

Betcha the roads going to and from the oil facilities... Wounded Bear Jul 2013 #15

No, these ARE the roads to the oil fields. mbperrin Jul 2013 #43

Not To Dispute Any Comments On This Thread... But Gravel Roads Can Be OK Tace Jul 2013 #18

Asphalt means a depletion of petroleum resources Kolesar Jul 2013 #33

Asphalt comes from a separate part of the oil barrel than fuel. Heywood J Jul 2013 #135

The roads are torn up because drilling rigs weighing 80,000 pounds are being mbperrin Jul 2013 #41

I lived on a gravel road in Missouri and I hated Ed Suspicious Jul 2013 #48

I have to admit pipi_k Jul 2013 #131

Same here... pipi_k Jul 2013 #130

What about the drop in sorefeet Jul 2013 #19

No dust mockmonkey Jul 2013 #25

In the 50s, when I was a kid, the county DID spray dirt roads with waste oil. mbperrin Jul 2013 #44

At least mockmonkey Jul 2013 #51

I think the quote goes like this: proReality Jul 2013 #52

that which does not kill you is a-okay per US regulations elehhhhna Jul 2013 #58

Don't mention mutations... nebenaube Jul 2013 #102

That which does not kill you cannot be proven in a Texas court Kennah Jul 2013 #68

They'll spray the roads with frack fluid don't mind the arsenic! Champion Jack Jul 2013 #127

Given the perpetual road construction that goes on all over Texas (at least the major cities) penultimate Jul 2013 #20

This message was self-deleted by its author penultimate Jul 2013 #62

And during the Dark Ages . . . Brigid Jul 2013 #21

No one lives out in these areas - well, sparsely populated sammytko Jul 2013 #23

Yeah, all the truck traffic is killing those roads WolverineDG Jul 2013 #28

It's about 40,000 people, combined, for all Ilsa Jul 2013 #36

I grew up in Live Oak County. TexasTowelie Jul 2013 #86

I live in a small town one county up from these areas, all our roads are sammytko Jul 2013 #99

The windshield repair shops are thrilled. WilliamPitt Jul 2013 #24

Interesting. I don't think it's a big deal though. Avalux Jul 2013 #26

"The speed limits on those roads will probably be reduced to 30 mph." calimary Jul 2013 #27

Gravel roads don't keep yay-hoos from speeding. svpadgham Jul 2013 #30

Best way to drive gravel roads is to go fast enough truebluegreen Jul 2013 #70

I think there may be a bit of over reacting to this story. svpadgham Jul 2013 #29

My understanding was that TxDOT was trying Ilsa Jul 2013 #31

Perhaps. Igel Jul 2013 #71

I have never known Republicans to fix roads. Jamastiene Jul 2013 #32

This is Texas. Igel Jul 2013 #72

Pushing the cost to the car driver. Arctic Dave Jul 2013 #34

Are you in Alaska? nt raccoon Jul 2013 #66

I am. Arctic Dave Jul 2013 #77

They're doing it for the oil. CanSocDem Jul 2013 #35

The real savings is recharging the old asphalt to repave/repair major existing roads Brother Buzz Jul 2013 #45

These 4 counties have natural gas, not oil, Ilsa Jul 2013 #46

I think there are Some misconceptions here = as I know a bit about asphalt paving... Mopar151 Jul 2013 #115

Can they please supply these to mapquest!!!! Historic NY Jul 2013 #38

Yes, indeed. Moving forward with the republicans means moving backward is their new way. southernyankeebelle Jul 2013 #39

The republican con job rolls on.... blackspade Jul 2013 #40

They're actually going to tear up the asphalt roads? sufrommich Jul 2013 #42

Exactly what I was thinking. Sounds really stupid. nt SunSeeker Jul 2013 #49

The roads are trashed already. Igel Jul 2013 #75

The symbolism of this is totally lost on them I guess. reformist2 Jul 2013 #47

Shit, they've been doing that in West Virginia since Reagan 1-Old-Man Jul 2013 #50

In other news, residents of south Texas finally Ilsa Jul 2013 #54

In other words, we don't care about the peopel of west and southern Texas ShadowLiberal Jul 2013 #55

The sick part in all of this is... Lobo27 Jul 2013 #56

k&r for the truth, however depressing it may be. n/t Laelth Jul 2013 #57

Damn, the roads were good out there for the most part, especially Farm-to-Market roads. freshwest Jul 2013 #61

Out of all the states I've been in, I found Texas roads to be some of the better ones... penultimate Jul 2013 #63

My memory of Texas highways goes way back. Truly, Texas used to have wonderful roads, even before northoftheborder Jul 2013 #81

So an oil drilling BOOM causes a funding shortfall? Kennah Jul 2013 #65

Does Texas really even need roads? Katashi_itto Jul 2013 #67

Now, that is what I call progress... kentuck Jul 2013 #73

Jesus. I'm so glad I no longer live in that fucked-up state... Aristus Jul 2013 #74

we have good democrats here... MrsBrady Jul 2013 #88

I know. And I feel bad for them. Aristus Jul 2013 #94

A link with a few more facts. Igel Jul 2013 #76

I hate the term "oil production" gulliver Jul 2013 #83

And in these four counties, Ilsa Jul 2013 #91

There is a refinery in Three Rivers, in live oak county sammytko Jul 2013 #121

Yes, it's been there for over three decades. Ilsa Jul 2013 #122

We used to pass through there on our way to Texas A&I university sammytko Jul 2013 #123

Can't have paved roads paid for by evvvvvil taxes! Thats socialism friend! workinclasszero Jul 2013 #85

Change that to dirt jmowreader Jul 2013 #87

Building the New Third World ... GeorgeGist Jul 2013 #89

There goes insurance rates due to raptor_rider Jul 2013 #90

Not only can't you fix stupid, it's contagious. n/t Egalitarian Thug Jul 2013 #95

They say the road to Hell ThoughtCriminal Jul 2013 #96

that's just 20 miles south of me NMDemDist2 Jul 2013 #97

Really short sighted of them. Unpaved road take more maintenance than paved roads. 1monster Jul 2013 #98

Doesn't that qualify as "messing with Texas"? stevenleser Jul 2013 #100

Where is the gravel coming from? Metro135 Jul 2013 #103

"This New Road Brought To You Courtesy of Your State Republicans. To phone in your appreciation, jtuck004 Jul 2013 #106

going backwards Liberal_in_LA Jul 2013 #108

It's happening in a lot of states, actually. NickB79 Jul 2013 #109

This is obscene! There must be more to this. tofuandbeer Jul 2013 #112

" where Republican leadership hasn’t lowered our electric bill, our college tuition" Snake Plissken Jul 2013 #114

Seriously Thought It Was The Onion erpowers Jul 2013 #116

Who owns the gravel company? yellerpup Jul 2013 #119

More dust to breathe Conium Jul 2013 #120

That will be a boon for the vehicle repair shops. The added maintenance costs will far exceed ladjf Jul 2013 #129

Isn't hispanic the largest population in South Texas? Bethany Rockafella Jul 2013 #132