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AtheistCrusader

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36. Not in the threads I observed/responded to.

Tue Jul 30, 2013, 02:49 AM

Jul 2013

There's a 'no true Scotsman' fallacy in here somewhere, I'm sure on both sides.

For those that voiced doubt about Z's response, or the story en total, not only did I not criticize them, but I applaud their innate instincts.

But there were most certainly people who doubted the crash happened at all, and to them, I think some level of scorn is warranted, because come on. There were front page threads on how 'the whole story was unraveling' etc. And that is how the term 'crashers' came to be affixed to it.

So, mix of good and bad, on both sides. And there were people on 'my' side (I define as 'wait and see/truth will out' crowd) who got it wrong too, thinking he could well have been nearby and may have done something good. I voiced something similar as a possibility in a range of possibilities, even though I was careful to explicitly state that it wouldn't change anything even if he pulled a hundred babies from a burning orphanage.

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Of course the Zimmerman "rescue" was a fake. [View all] JackRiddler Jul 2013 OP

Heh heh heh JustAnotherGen Jul 2013 #1

Ta-Dah! nt onehandle Jul 2013 #2

Once again - a lie travels halfway around the world before the truth bullwinkle428 Jul 2013 #3

Authoritarians always lie to make themselves look better. Octafish Jul 2013 #4

Figures. ForgoTheConsequence Jul 2013 #5

Oh hell to the NO! JustAnotherGen Jul 2013 #6

No, because the part of it that was fixated on, actually happened. AtheistCrusader Jul 2013 #7

anything heaven05 Jul 2013 #20

no, a number of commenters immediately suggested that someone might have called him, HiPointDem Jul 2013 #35

Not in the threads I observed/responded to. AtheistCrusader Jul 2013 #36

The story leads back to newball Babel_17 Jul 2013 #40

People that have followed the TM story brush Jul 2013 #57

My problem with it was really just that AtheistCrusader Jul 2013 #62

never heaven05 Jul 2013 #14

Frankly I'm surprised this isn't against the law. PatrynXX Jul 2013 #8

FloriDUH is a banana republic. MoonRiver Jul 2013 #13

As someone who has for the most part given the benefit of doubt to the story Boom Sound 416 Jul 2013 #9

George davidohenry Jul 2013 #10

Yeah, agree with all of it or not, that would be best Boom Sound 416 Jul 2013 #12

yeah heaven05 Jul 2013 #15

Hey, look at that Boom Sound 416 Jul 2013 #16

So are STILL considered "Crashers" because we doubted Zimmerman's "rescue" role? diabeticman Jul 2013 #11

Depends AtheistCrusader Jul 2013 #21

And still others merely hedging their bets, regardless of actual convictions. LanternWaste Jul 2013 #52

But bottom line, the story was bullshit. brush Jul 2013 #58

I was waiting on some proof to come out madville Jul 2013 #32

zimPIG heaven05 Jul 2013 #17

So to be clear, this cop delayed responding to an emergency in order to tip off Zimmerman? Fumesucker Jul 2013 #18

I can't believe that this officer won't be sanctioned for this... anneboleyn Jul 2013 #26

No. George got there AFTER the crash victims were rescued. Junkdrawer Jul 2013 #43

The family acknowledged that Zimmerman sufrommich Jul 2013 #47

They sure did. But now they seem to want to back away... Junkdrawer Jul 2013 #48

If you listen to the 911 calls.. TeeYiYi Jul 2013 #49

Why are you posting false info? brush Jul 2013 #59

I'm not posting false information and there is no sufrommich Jul 2013 #61

The 'crasher' claim is that the crash was an elaborate scam cpwm17 Jul 2013 #19

The story is that there was a story. JackRiddler Jul 2013 #24

Exactly. ABC news jumped to Zimmerman's defense early, before charges were filed.... Junkdrawer Jul 2013 #41

I don't like the guy madville Jul 2013 #22

Nope, Rehder's name on the accident report... JackRiddler Jul 2013 #30

If you "staged" a rescue to make Zimmerman look good... KinMd Jul 2013 #23

Who says there's a long plan involved? JackRiddler Jul 2013 #25

Exactly. And now the media is SILENT. anneboleyn Jul 2013 #27

Right, that's the rest of the story. JackRiddler Jul 2013 #28

Sorry about your head, by the way. JackRiddler Jul 2013 #33

I'm surprised he didn't save a bus load of nuns. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2013 #29

Blind nuns. With seeing-eye puppies. Delivering shoes to an orphanage. Scootaloo Jul 2013 #31

It's amazing how everyone seems to link to the same unsubstantiated personal blog... Pelican Jul 2013 #34

cell phone records noiretextatique Jul 2013 #37

Question... Pelican Jul 2013 #38

Whilst yet others seem to feel that if anything negative comes out about Zimmerman... LanternWaste Jul 2013 #53

I don't know about all of that... Pelican Jul 2013 #54

Thanks for your ongoing contributions, Random Dude. (nt) Paladin Jul 2013 #56

Come on! Use your head. brush Jul 2013 #60

if they used their heads noiretextatique Jul 2013 #63

"the only people lower than Zimmerman are his apologists" brush Jul 2013 #66

Is that the new standard for journalism? Pelican Jul 2013 #64

yet you bought zimmerman's ridiculous "self-defense" claim noiretextatique Jul 2013 #65

Two things... Pelican Jul 2013 #67

It's amazing to me that you ALWAYS defend that murderous scumbag Zimmerman EOTE Jul 2013 #68

Told you before... Pelican Jul 2013 #69

Nope. You've got a K or so posts. EOTE Jul 2013 #70

In case you hadn't noticed... Pelican Jul 2013 #71

So you admit that the bulk of your thousand or so posts are in defense of Zimmerman. EOTE Jul 2013 #72

It's adorable that you think that is what I said... Pelican Jul 2013 #73

It's adorable you don't think you're doing anything other than defending a racist piece of shit. EOTE Jul 2013 #74

The best part... Pelican Jul 2013 #75

Just like Zimmerman, right? EOTE Jul 2013 #78

I noticed that right off the bat CatWoman Jul 2013 #77

That's your hobby? I bet you're lots of fun at parties..... Paladin Jul 2013 #76

It's primarily an internet hobby... Pelican Jul 2013 #79

in order to prove, once and for all CatWoman Jul 2013 #80

Not really sure what you are going for there... Pelican Jul 2013 #82

To believe this blogs story,you would have to believe sufrommich Jul 2013 #39

I guess you could twist the OP's post more... Junkdrawer Jul 2013 #42

That's exactly what you'd have to believe to accept that it was fake. Captain Stern Jul 2013 #44

The OP claims that strawman after strawman is used to hide the truth... Junkdrawer Jul 2013 #45

How so? Captain Stern Jul 2013 #50

Z-man gots a fatal case of Republican "Family Values" Berlum Jul 2013 #46

This message was self-deleted by its author mother earth Jul 2013 #51

I knew it was a ruse libodem Jul 2013 #55

And folks right here seem to believe george's martial arts instructor who said he was a weakling. Hoyt Jul 2013 #81

Duh! malaise Jul 2013 #83