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RainDog

(28,784 posts)
22. Let's track some numbers
Sat Aug 3, 2013, 05:03 PM
Aug 2013

as far as spending, etc. over time. Here are a few links -

the largest db of marijuana arrests released to the public (from 2008) - http://www.drugscience.org/States/US/US_home.htm

http://www.alternet.org/story/64465/the_war_on_pot%3A_america's_$42_billion_annual_boondoggle

From 2007 - "...according to a new study by researcher Jon Gettman, Ph.D. -- $10.7 billion in direct law enforcement costs, and $31.1 billion in lost tax revenues. And that may be an underestimate, at least on the law enforcement side, since Gettman made his calculations before the FBI released its latest arrest statistics in late September. The new FBI stats show an all-time record 829,627 marijuana arrests in 2006, 43,000 more than in 2005."

Specific findings include the following:

http://www.drugscience.org/bcr/

--Nationally, there is little apparent relationship between increasing marijuana arrests and rates of use.

Marijuana arrests have nearly doubled from 1991 to 2009, increasing by 150% during the 1990s and increasing steadily in recent years, producing an annualized change of 6.56% per year during this period.

Overall, levels of marijuana use in the United States have remained fundamentally unchanged during this period. Population estimates of annual marijuana use, for example, have remained relatively constant over the last five years at approximately 25 million individuals.

From 2003 to 2007, the number of annual marijuana arrests increased by 2.93% per year, while the number of annual marijuana users decreased by 0.21% per year.

The overall marijuana arrest rate of between 3% and 6% of users is not enough to represent a meaningful deterrent.

--Young people and African-Americans are disproportionately affected by marijuana arrests.

Males aged 15 to 24 account for 52% of all marijuana arrests. While the national rate of marijuana possession arrests is 248 per 100,000, the arrest rate for males aged 15 to 19 is 1,911 per 100,000.

While the marijuana-use rate for African-Americans is only about 25% greater than for whites, the marijuana possession arrest rate for blacks is three times greater. This is not a regional disparity, but is seen in every state and most counties.

---The costs of arresting marijuana users are substantial, and raise serious questions about the cost effectiveness of marijuana prohibition.

Using the same method of calculation used by the White House Office of National Drug Control Policy, marijuana arrests cost state and local governments $10.3 billion in 2006.

Marijuana arrests represent 6% of all arrests. In many states, they represent the fifth, sixth, or seventh largest category of arrests.

The clearance rate (i.e. the percentage of crimes solved by arrest) for murder, rape, robbery, assault, burglary, larceny, and motor vehicle theft was 26% in 2007, meaning that no one is arrested for three quarters of these serious crimes. In this environment, time and resources spent on roughly 850,000 marijuana arrests per year represent a significant opportunity cost.

In California, decriminalization of marijuana possession saved taxpayers $857 million in 2006 (details in the California state report (PDF)) -- this pdf is linked at the link.



:/ Go Vols Aug 2013 #1
Who has Obama sent to prison for smoking marijuana? tridim Aug 2013 #3
Here is one Go Vols Aug 2013 #13
Typical Aerows Aug 2013 #19
To be fair, he was convicted of distribution, not personal usage. randome Aug 2013 #41
Yes,the poster I was replying to Go Vols Aug 2013 #51
a better question would be questionseverything Aug 2013 #75
None. Obama has left no legal MMJ users in jail, nor has he put any there. tridim Aug 2013 #87
quite a few people as it happens. do your own due diligence and don't be lazy cali Aug 2013 #34
I'm not going to waste my time because I know it's not true. Post your proof or get lost. nt tridim Aug 2013 #46
Well, now that the proof you demanded has been posted, YOU get lost! Divernan Aug 2013 #64
What proof? The study numbers are unsourced "estimates". tridim Aug 2013 #85
See Post 13, and click on the link! Divernan Aug 2013 #88
Duval wasn't put in prison by Obama for smoking medical cannabis. nt tridim Aug 2013 #90
that wins the "head in sand" award for today, hands down.... mike_c Aug 2013 #78
This message was self-deleted by its author tridim Aug 2013 #86
Mike . . . . Mike . . . . consistency is a virture. Stinky The Clown Aug 2013 #93
oops. Phlem Aug 2013 #71
Could you find a cite for the "$100,000 per-day" claim? tridim Aug 2013 #2
Let's track some numbers RainDog Aug 2013 #22
Thanks, but I'm really looking for a cite for the claim in the OP and the article. tridim Aug 2013 #30
I see others have posted info too RainDog Aug 2013 #33
289,000,000 divided by 1643 questionseverything Aug 2013 #50
Here the MPP take on 2013 RainDog Aug 2013 #62
Here's one report Aerows Aug 2013 #24
NORML's chart showing arrests by administration RainDog Aug 2013 #25
The massive increase in arrests under Clinton RainDog Aug 2013 #28
A truly grass roots movement from the bottom up. mick063 Aug 2013 #45
Yes. As Ethan Nadelman noted - our politicians are too scared to speak up RainDog Aug 2013 #55
It was 2010 when sorefeet Aug 2013 #79
Yes. Only in states with mmj laws RainDog Aug 2013 #83
Yes and we are fighting like hell sorefeet Aug 2013 #92
this and education are probably the two issues I would say Obama is actually worse than Bush on. liberal_at_heart Aug 2013 #4
There are thousands more legally operating dispensaries in MMJ states since Obama took office. tridim Aug 2013 #5
Exactly! nt AverageJoe90 Aug 2013 #6
LOL....read this slower..... Logical Aug 2013 #10
I need a cite or it's bullshit. nt tridim Aug 2013 #31
LOL, lets say you prove it wrong and then you can whine. n-t Logical Aug 2013 #39
Obama spent nearly $300 million busting Ganja ℞ ops. - See more at: http://www.thomhartmann.com/foru matthews Aug 2013 #49
OH sweetie! You just called your own citeless post bullshit! Divernan Aug 2013 #68
I am as upset about this as you are, if not more so Isoldeblue Aug 2013 #73
They operate despite him mick063 Aug 2013 #12
Thousands more? bluedigger Aug 2013 #16
Tridim demands links; fails to provide any him or herself. Divernan Aug 2013 #66
What does that have to do with federal? JackRiddler Aug 2013 #70
Be careful mick063 Aug 2013 #8
+1 for the dope smokers Safetykitten Aug 2013 #7
Shhhh... You'll upset the defenders. nt GlashFordan Aug 2013 #9
Someone will soon be posting 20 links to Obama being pro-pot soon. n-t Logical Aug 2013 #11
Actually, they will be links back to the poster's other posts LondonReign2 Aug 2013 #26
LOL.....and you will be so confused that soon you will believe anything. n-t Logical Aug 2013 #35
I think there are other circumstances behind this. randome Aug 2013 #14
I believe you need to "bone up" on this issue mick063 Aug 2013 #15
I don't need to bone up on it. I believe you. randome Aug 2013 #23
Sorry, I was a little brash mick063 Aug 2013 #29
Washington state IS a social experiment in progress, I agree. randome Aug 2013 #38
Lawmakers In 5 States Tell Feds To Back Off Medical Marijuana matthews Aug 2013 #56
Damn what the people want. Go Vols Aug 2013 #17
We always have so much money to throw away for corporate interests. Catherina Aug 2013 #18
Thanks for the charts & info think Aug 2013 #60
I'm shocked, I tell you: absolutely shocked! Who woulda' ever thunk it? indepat Aug 2013 #20
Buy ProSense Aug 2013 #21
Doing this Go Vols Aug 2013 #32
When someones life is adversely altered by the federal government in a state where pot is legal mick063 Aug 2013 #36
Post removed Post removed Aug 2013 #57
President Obama isn't going to be the President... Scurrilous Aug 2013 #27
So it's ok if he lies about going after marijuana burnodo Aug 2013 #37
I have thought about it. Go Vols Aug 2013 #40
No President is going to be that President RainDog Aug 2013 #42
That said, I still predict Cannabis will be removed from Schedule I after the 2014 elections. tridim Aug 2013 #43
Nope. The other way round. More states will legalize and at some point the federal government liberal_at_heart Aug 2013 #47
I don't care how it happens, but it's going to happen. :) tridim Aug 2013 #48
in spite of the Democratic president burnodo Aug 2013 #91
Well, maybe he should have the backbone to stand up and say.... Logical Aug 2013 #44
That would be a real shock yet a refreshing change! Divernan Aug 2013 #67
Medical MJ. You know, for cancer patients. NoOneMan Aug 2013 #53
True. Scurrilous Aug 2013 #54
since nearly 3/4s of all voters want this shit to stop RainDog Aug 2013 #61
Who gives a fuck? Sick people need access to effective medication NoOneMan Aug 2013 #65
Atrocious defense. JackRiddler Aug 2013 #72
72% of Americans say marijuana enforcement isn't worth the cost RainDog Aug 2013 #52
Shameful. Absolutely shameful... think Aug 2013 #58
Willamette Week, May 14th, 2008 Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #59
So basically a flat out lie. n-t Logical Aug 2013 #69
Yes an absolute lie and display of disrespect to the voters of Oregon who supported Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #84
Understatement much? DeSwiss Aug 2013 #63
Exactly. Maybe it's not so great to have allies who, like the Republicans, think that jtuck004 Aug 2013 #74
U.S. Attorney Said Montana Medical Pot Growers Wouldn't Be Prosecuted -- Life Long Dem Aug 2013 #76
thank you for posting this. Obama gets to say whatever he wants. It's his appointees that do the liberal_at_heart Aug 2013 #77
That post merits Go Vols Aug 2013 #81
cannabis users are racists! mike_c Aug 2013 #80
and don't forget Paulbots. We're not allowed to have the same position on any issue liberal_at_heart Aug 2013 #82
That's actually good, of course. If Obama had spent zero... gulliver Aug 2013 #89
. LondonReign2 Aug 2013 #94
kick otherone Aug 2013 #95
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