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cui bono

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234. Um... no. Do you really think so?
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 05:15 AM
Aug 2013

Or are you only asking if I think so? Apologist is hardly name calling such as "firebagger".

Lots of paranoid people around here. Rex Aug 2013 #1
The fools. Igel Aug 2013 #18
I remember back in the day when it was just Agent Mike Rex Aug 2013 #19
Its the sequestration... Historic NY Aug 2013 #68
But they don't announce when, so you can't safely take advantage of the fact. Jackpine Radical Aug 2013 #135
Thankfully there's still some reasonable posters here. Just Saying Aug 2013 #2
Thanls for posting this, Janey. lumpy Aug 2013 #67
True, Ma'am The Magistrate Aug 2013 #3
Nice to see you here, Sir Hekate Aug 2013 #91
Free tip: Union Scribe Aug 2013 #4
get in line. I get bullied and mocked every day for being a liberal. liberal_at_heart Aug 2013 #5
Really? Just Saying Aug 2013 #8
I guess you're not reading the right threads, LWolf Aug 2013 #183
Well if you saw 2 or 3 today how about a link or 2? Just Saying Aug 2013 #193
You must not read all that carefully. LWolf Aug 2013 #238
Despite the tone of your answer I'll respond. Just Saying Aug 2013 #239
You are correct in one thing, of course. LWolf Aug 2013 #241
This message was self-deleted by its author PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #6
You should have started with your 4th paragraph . . . MrModerate Aug 2013 #7
It seems like the flaming hair response Just Saying Aug 2013 #10
If we had had more panic and outrage about this program and if we had asked more questions JDPriestly Aug 2013 #79
+ 1,000 cantbeserious Aug 2013 #101
Panic and outrage might get you a fan club here at DU Just Saying Aug 2013 #111
"Panic & Outrage" ? bvar22 Aug 2013 #149
Do you just read the title and then go off? Just Saying Aug 2013 #155
I really don't care whether YOU or the OP "take me". LOL bvar22 Aug 2013 #161
I was writing my reply when you posted HangOnKids Aug 2013 #164
Thanks. bvar22 Aug 2013 #171
Oh the poor dears HangOnKids Aug 2013 #172
So cute when the clique has a love in! Just Saying Aug 2013 #174
The Clique? HangOnKids Aug 2013 #175
Oh, NOW there is a conspiracy of people at DU making him look bad. bvar22 Aug 2013 #190
Oh sorry, Just Saying Aug 2013 #194
You certainly seem more interested in tossing out insults than having a debate. EOTE Aug 2013 #250
And the pacifier HangOnKids Aug 2013 #195
But SHE quoted someone HangOnKids Aug 2013 #199
Isn't funny how certain posters who have an entire forum to theirselves... last1standing Aug 2013 #205
I'm supposed to feel badly about posting occasionally Just Saying Aug 2013 #207
Maybe you should ask your clique those questions. last1standing Aug 2013 #210
I just read this conversation again Just Saying Aug 2013 #213
Ok. You're absolutely innocent of everything. last1standing Aug 2013 #214
Yeah you didn't read it. Just Saying Aug 2013 #217
You have a nice night as well. last1standing Aug 2013 #218
They have a private room... SidDithers Aug 2013 #242
Yeah sorta like Puglover Aug 2013 #243
! dionysus Aug 2013 #245
Your response indicates a big ole yes to my question. Just Saying Aug 2013 #166
I'm sure he doesn't care if you take him seriously HangOnKids Aug 2013 #162
Oh we're gonna be frank now? Okay. Just Saying Aug 2013 #167
Great! Glad To See You Posting! HangOnKids Aug 2013 #168
No, correcting grammar is what snarky people do when they don't have anything of substance to say. Just Saying Aug 2013 #173
You are too boring to converse with HangOnKids Aug 2013 #176
Bummer. Just Saying Aug 2013 #177
This message was self-deleted by its author HangOnKids Aug 2013 #165
+1 ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2013 #200
+100 Katashi_itto Aug 2013 #138
X1000 bvar22 Aug 2013 #147
Thank you for the well reasoned and thoughtful post. JEB Aug 2013 #182
The only thing I don't understand is why the DLCers object to the word "authoritarian" BlueStreak Aug 2013 #206
I also need to ask you, what do you think would be effective ways to deal with the problem JDPriestly Aug 2013 #81
Very good. I agree and I want to emphasize that many of us feel that this is way bigger than the Ed Suspicious Aug 2013 #88
So... KharmaTrain Aug 2013 #100
If democrats force democratic candidates to stick to a progressive platform it just sort of takes Ed Suspicious Aug 2013 #115
So if "democrats force democratic candidates to stick to a progressive platform"... KharmaTrain Aug 2013 #121
No one should stay home in 14 and 16. Who suggested that? JDPriestly Aug 2013 #152
So The NSA Could Rig Elections?? KharmaTrain Aug 2013 #215
Have you seen this Bill Moyers video? JDPriestly Aug 2013 #222
I'd Prefer Facts... KharmaTrain Aug 2013 #224
Part of the genius of the crimes of the NSA and the FISA court are that their deliberations JDPriestly Aug 2013 #226
Lots Of Speculation... KharmaTrain Aug 2013 #229
"Senator Wyden and other members of Congress hold the power JDPriestly Aug 2013 #232
This a fundamentally dishonest response.... markpkessinger Aug 2013 #191
+1 ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2013 #202
For starters, take a breath and look at all the information. Just Saying Aug 2013 #119
Protest itself has become a lost art. randome Aug 2013 #122
True enough. Just Saying Aug 2013 #156
+1 ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2013 #204
Thanks Just Saying Aug 2013 #216
Yes ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2013 #223
I agree with you. JDPriestly Aug 2013 #73
Spot on. nt malokvale77 Aug 2013 #159
None of the people you complain about are putting up photo spreads of Guy Fawkes Fumesucker Aug 2013 #9
is that 'another person', the President? and is that 'group' the BOG? Whisp Aug 2013 #12
I haven't come into those threads making snarky comments Fumesucker Aug 2013 #16
Oh you sweet thing Whisp! sheshe2 Aug 2013 #26
Believe it not... awoke_in_2003 Aug 2013 #56
I suggest you need to catch up on a month or two of news stories quinnox Aug 2013 #11
did the Washington Post lie about the Iraq war? Whisp Aug 2013 #14
So who can we trust? Fumesucker Aug 2013 #20
Read up about China's GhostNet Whisp Aug 2013 #23
Yeah, I bet he orders up a random drone strike to take the edge off after a hard day in Congress Fumesucker Aug 2013 #28
Are you actually defending lying to Congress now? /nt Marr Aug 2013 #62
Looks like it doesn't it. Some people have principles and some do not. nt Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #90
why of course! and I eat small ponies for brekkie! Whisp Aug 2013 #110
So THAT's where Jackpine Radical Aug 2013 #136
Maybe you "can't handle the truth of cyber warfare"... ljm2002 Aug 2013 #128
and when did I say I speak for You? Whisp Aug 2013 #129
You said, and I quote: ljm2002 Aug 2013 #133
you can put 'maybe' in bold too. Whisp Aug 2013 #139
If the name-calling stuff does not apply to me... ljm2002 Aug 2013 #140
The SnowGlenn thing was so cute! HangOnKids Aug 2013 #163
And GG??? sheshe2 Aug 2013 #32
I admire Glenn Greenwald's reporting quinnox Aug 2013 #35
I didn't read it that way creeksneakers2 Aug 2013 #50
would you still feel the same if a republican were president right now? liberal_at_heart Aug 2013 #52
Good question creeksneakers2 Aug 2013 #108
Obama Implemented the Oversight that Bush Ignored Skraxx Aug 2013 #254
K/R CakeGrrl Aug 2013 #13
You're so brave ecstatic Aug 2013 #15
Thanks to the tips being fed to them by the SOD nebenaube Aug 2013 #17
Way to prove the OP's point. Just Saying Aug 2013 #29
"Both of you Pentagon trolls can fuck off as far as I am concerned" No thanks for Cha Aug 2013 #31
yeah, well, thanks for the Alert... nebenaube Aug 2013 #49
I didn't alert on your nasty personal attack. Cha Aug 2013 #57
if you took it personally it must have been on target. nebenaube Aug 2013 #63
If you don't care then quit digging. Cha Aug 2013 #71
The hate teachers on this site have done a great job turning this once intelligent forum into lumpy Aug 2013 #75
Whatever. Cha didn't, but I did. Hekate Aug 2013 #93
... and our esteemed jurists already decided 3-3 to let it stand. Hekate Aug 2013 #95
Holy crap. I was just reading that and saw the note about alerting but figured no one could have Number23 Aug 2013 #187
Apparently you missed the "firebagger/tea-libertarian" comment in the post Marr Aug 2013 #65
All flaws are on one side, the other side has all warrant to do and say anything in any way Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #114
Indeed. Marr Aug 2013 #124
While I may the escatic is playing it down a bit.. awoke_in_2003 Aug 2013 #59
GFY. JTFrog Aug 2013 #212
I never tell anybody how to vote or what to think. I simply state how I feel and vote. liberal_at_heart Aug 2013 #21
I could've written that. tblue Aug 2013 #76
So the OP starts by accusing others... ljm2002 Aug 2013 #44
+1 So sick of that intentionally divisive "firebagger" shit. cui bono Aug 2013 #96
How about "Surveillance State Apologist"? CakeGrrl Aug 2013 #178
Um... no. Do you really think so? cui bono Aug 2013 #234
Well Done. bvar22 Aug 2013 #151
If you are not concerned about the NSA and the current admin's attitude cui bono Aug 2013 #92
Who Said "Vote 3rd Party?" HumansAndResources Aug 2013 #231
"If you don't march in lockstep to their worldview"... ljm2002 Aug 2013 #22
+1000. I'm afraid the OP is just factually wrong. Besides that lawsuit, the ACLU also is suing quinnox Aug 2013 #25
+1000 JV has not been paying attention, it seems. Th1onein Aug 2013 #34
+1 Marr Aug 2013 #66
+ a gazillion! chervilant Aug 2013 #99
Well said. Oakenshield Aug 2013 #208
The OP calls for "sane, rational voices" mick063 Aug 2013 #24
no more compromise. no more grand bargains. Now is the time to fight for the 99%. liberal_at_heart Aug 2013 #27
"our country's demise"? this is why all the derision--it's not just the blatant denial, MisterP Aug 2013 #30
Kicked and Recommending! sheshe2 Aug 2013 #33
A lot of us are long time anti-establishment types.... Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2013 #36
One has to wonder what the OP knows about things like The Gulf of Tonkin or Kent State... cherokeeprogressive Aug 2013 #53
Not to mention the Red Scare and the McCarthy era. All Right Wing in origin. Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2013 #55
Uh, 58,000 Americans died in Vietnam. Along with one or two million Vietnamese. Comrade Grumpy Aug 2013 #64
I shan't. Nor shall I forget that The President LIED us into that war. cherokeeprogressive Aug 2013 #74
Not really, it is clear that the OP is lacking in historical context going back at least to McCarthy Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #117
My guess would be nothing. malokvale77 Aug 2013 #181
Thanks JaneyVee! Iliyah Aug 2013 #37
You bash us for mocking you then say we're running around with our hair on fire. last1standing Aug 2013 #38
LOL - way to prove the OP's point to perfection tjwash Aug 2013 #40
Let's see if the OP condemns your mockery. last1standing Aug 2013 #43
They have no good faith arguments, or else they would use them. Maedhros Aug 2013 #169
What I noticed is that for all the OP's cries of unfair treatment... last1standing Aug 2013 #192
K & R SunSeeker Aug 2013 #39
Yes, pot, the kettle is black Cronus Protagonist Aug 2013 #41
Thanks, JaneyVee. Yes, there do seem to be a number of bullies among the "anti-authoritarians" here. pnwmom Aug 2013 #42
Ya think! Cha Aug 2013 #58
I like being spied on. Its fun. Lets advocate for it! New platform plank NoOneMan Aug 2013 #45
I think it's that sense of "impending doom" that's waking us up 99th_Monkey Aug 2013 #46
i am going to print this so SwampG8r Aug 2013 #47
oh when will DU get a like button? n/t nebenaube Aug 2013 #51
Thanks Janey for your OP.. Cha Aug 2013 #48
Post removed Post removed Aug 2013 #54
"no stories of innocent people being rounded up into FEMA camps" Boom Sound 416 Aug 2013 #60
Who needs FEMA camps when the U.S. already has the biggest prison system in the world? backscatter712 Aug 2013 #69
In other words Summer Hathaway Aug 2013 #85
No. Buts that's kinda funny Boom Sound 416 Aug 2013 #106
You can cheerlead for the surveillance state. That's your right. backscatter712 Aug 2013 #61
Those people are every bit as much my enemy Maedhros Aug 2013 #170
When lying to Congress and the American people is claimed asna right, MannyGoldstein Aug 2013 #70
Look the other way. The party will protect you. Until they're no longer in power that is... cherokeeprogressive Aug 2013 #72
So the real objection to the NSA is a paranoid fantasy ConservativeDemocrat Aug 2013 #209
Don't surveil me without cause. cherokeeprogressive Aug 2013 #227
Unlike many people here, I don't alert. ConservativeDemocrat Aug 2013 #237
You don't alert because you think it's an abuse of the system? cherokeeprogressive Aug 2013 #240
If there's anything I'm proud to be intolerant of LittleBlue Aug 2013 #77
don't be sorry grasswire Aug 2013 #84
"lets wait for facts and evidence" tblue Aug 2013 #78
Authoritarians are those who side with authority. They take direction. Luminous Animal Aug 2013 #80
Well said. nm rhett o rick Aug 2013 #82
thank you, the OP doesn't seem to understand what authoritarian means quinnox Aug 2013 #83
A good many of us here were taught a core value: QUESTION AUTHORITY grasswire Aug 2013 #87
I was taught to question authority from two people who it would have Luminous Animal Aug 2013 #89
Very well-written OP. Summer Hathaway Aug 2013 #86
My grandson would rip this OP to pieces. malokvale77 Aug 2013 #184
I hope this doesn't ruin your evening, but Summer Hathaway Aug 2013 #225
Why are you turning your lack of concern for our democracy and constitution into an attack cui bono Aug 2013 #94
See you want oversight and I want it stopped. dkf Aug 2013 #97
What is unconstitutional that you want stopped? randome Aug 2013 #118
IT, they demand that IT be stopped. JoePhilly Aug 2013 #137
"In Jewel v. NSA, EFF is suing the NSA and other government agencies on behalf of AT&T customers" muriel_volestrangler Aug 2013 #98
I think a lot of people like to believe that conspiratorial sufrommich Aug 2013 #102
Educate yourself. 99Forever Aug 2013 #103
If it walks like a duck, swims like a duck, has feathers and quacks like a duck hobbit709 Aug 2013 #104
+1,000,000! Authoritarians hate being called authoritarians. n/t backscatter712 Aug 2013 #113
"mocked, shamed, insulted, and called names" like "randroid racist Obama haters"? Warren Stupidity Aug 2013 #105
Easy solution. If you're happy with the NSA and the administration, snappyturtle Aug 2013 #107
This is the overly simplified attitude that creates the schism CakeGrrl Aug 2013 #179
Really? Over simplified? Nope. I won't give an inch on the 4th Amendment. nt snappyturtle Aug 2013 #230
How much bull would a woodchuck chuck... whatchamacallit Aug 2013 #109
Good post malaise Aug 2013 #112
+1. nt bemildred Aug 2013 #116
I'm really sick of the sermons about other people's errors and sins. I don't care what the 'side' is Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #120
+1000 n/t ljm2002 Aug 2013 #132
right on, JV! bigtree Aug 2013 #123
K&R BumRushDaShow Aug 2013 #125
Talk about hyperbole! Quantess Aug 2013 #126
Just because you want Corporations/Government to have strict oversight and control over everyone's Zorra Aug 2013 #127
Can the OP support this 'same people' assertion by giving mulitple examples of such or is this Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #130
It looks like classic projection. nm rhett o rick Aug 2013 #148
I am glad you posted this. I welcome a discussion of authoritarianism. rhett o rick Aug 2013 #131
"more oversight is never a bad thing" TBF Aug 2013 #134
So let's open the discussion on whether or not we should investigate the NSA and Booz-Allen. rhett o rick Aug 2013 #141
If I might add... malokvale77 Aug 2013 #185
Authoritarians love their authoritarian leaders like Clapper, Alexander, Mueller, and Comey. nm rhett o rick Aug 2013 #186
Yes, and they seem to lack a certain... malokvale77 Aug 2013 #189
Good point. nm rhett o rick Aug 2013 #219
You made an OP complaining about insults, and then you insult people in the same OP? ZombieHorde Aug 2013 #142
It IS funny. laundry_queen Aug 2013 #144
Fallacious logic. nt ZombieHorde Aug 2013 #145
No sense of irony or hypocrisy at all. bvar22 Aug 2013 #160
You shit-gobbling sons of bitches better cut out the name-calling!!! QC Aug 2013 #247
K&R War Horse Aug 2013 #143
DU rec...nt SidDithers Aug 2013 #146
Things are what they are. Savannahmann Aug 2013 #150
Not sure about in general, but on DU it is the "centrists" who are smug, condescending and arrogant. redgreenandblue Aug 2013 #153
They want to hobble law enforcement and MAKE US LESS SAFE! ...from pot smokers. Warren DeMontague Aug 2013 #154
it's more like almost everyone calling some people authoritarians carolinayellowdog Aug 2013 #157
R#59 & K for, WOW!1 Am re-posting O.P. with highlighting!1 & I for one am willing to WORSHIPJaneyVee UTUSN Aug 2013 #158
An example to support your point CakeGrrl Aug 2013 #180
Do you realize how many posts on DU... malokvale77 Aug 2013 #188
You need lessons in logic. nm rhett o rick Aug 2013 #221
Unsolicited advice MFrohike Aug 2013 #196
No, there's nothing strange about the designations stupidicus Aug 2013 #197
truth to power grasswire Aug 2013 #203
thanks stupidicus Aug 2013 #236
You know, sometimes there are not two sides to a story hueymahl Aug 2013 #198
Such a republican argument. FreeBC Aug 2013 #201
They dont even bother to look up the definition of authoritarian before they use the rhett o rick Aug 2013 #220
I actually had a cop visit damnedifIknow Aug 2013 #211
Did you get this from your copy of tiger beat? RetroLounge Aug 2013 #228
Personal insult. Lisa D Aug 2013 #244
Was I talking to you? RetroLounge Aug 2013 #246
I hope you find everything you want and need in your life. Lisa D Aug 2013 #249
Oh, does god bless me and will you pray for me too? RetroLounge Aug 2013 #252
People have long ago made up their mind how to deal with those who disagree with them davidpdx Aug 2013 #233
K&R B Calm Aug 2013 #235
I disagree with your opening quite a bit! Vinnie From Indy Aug 2013 #248
I stopped posting in any "hair on fire" threads... I wish they would go start a new website. DontTreadOnMe Aug 2013 #251
Strange how those people who deny facts call others paranoid and engaging joeybee12 Aug 2013 #253
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