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In reply to the discussion: The leak was an attempt to bolster the libertarian brand. [View all]ProSense
(116,464 posts)158. Another fallacy
The Pauls are not anti-war.
Good time to repost this: http://www.democraticunderground.com/100210182
Have I mentioned Ron Paul isn't anti-war?
Ron Paul is a racist, anti-government demagogue. Everything he does benefits the GOP and the rich.
One person voted against the original Afghanistan AUMF
Barbara Lee
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2001/roll342.xml
Ron Paul voted yes.
In 2007, the House voted 218 to 212 to Set Date for Iraq Pullout
House, 218 to 212, Votes to Set Date for Iraq Pullout
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/24/washington/24cong.html
Ron Paul voted no.
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2007/roll186.xml
In 2007, Ron Paul introduced the Marque and Reprisal Act of 2007
Marque and Reprisal Act of 2007 - Authorizes and requests the President to issue letters of marque and reprisal to commission privately armed and equipped persons and entities to seize outside of the United States the person and property of Osama bin Laden, of any al Qaeda co-conspirator, and any conspirator with Osama bin Laden and al Qaeda who are responsible for the air piratical aggressions against the United States on September 11, 2001, and for any planned similar acts or acts of war against the United States in the future.
States that no letter of marque and reprisal shall be issued without the posting of a security bond in such amount as the President determines sufficient to ensure the letter's execution.
http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-110hr3216ih/pdf/BILLS-110hr3216ih.pdf
States that no letter of marque and reprisal shall be issued without the posting of a security bond in such amount as the President determines sufficient to ensure the letter's execution.
http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-110hr3216ih/pdf/BILLS-110hr3216ih.pdf
Of course when he introduced it in 2001, it was "for the capture, alive or dead, of Osama bin Laden or any other al Qaeda conspirator"
September 11 Marque and Reprisal Act of 2001
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(b) The President of the United States is authorized to place a money bounty, drawn in his discretion from the $40,000,000,000 appropriated on September 14, 2001, in the Emergency Supplemental Appropriations Act for Recovery from and Response to Terrorists Attacks on the United States or from private sources, for the capture, alive or dead, of Osama bin Laden or any other al Qaeda conspirator responsible for the act of air piracy upon the United States on September 11, 2001, under the authority of any letter of marque or reprisal issued under this Act.
http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-107hr3076ih/pdf/BILLS-107hr3076ih.pdf
(b) The President of the United States is authorized to place a money bounty, drawn in his discretion from the $40,000,000,000 appropriated on September 14, 2001, in the Emergency Supplemental Appropriations Act for Recovery from and Response to Terrorists Attacks on the United States or from private sources, for the capture, alive or dead, of Osama bin Laden or any other al Qaeda conspirator responsible for the act of air piracy upon the United States on September 11, 2001, under the authority of any letter of marque or reprisal issued under this Act.
http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-107hr3076ih/pdf/BILLS-107hr3076ih.pdf
Rand Paul: Any attack on Israel will be treated as an attack on the United States
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023475014
· War funding from 2001 to 2010 has cost the taxpayer $1.109 trillion. That amount doesnt include the $159
billion that will likely be spent funding the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq for FY2011. The proposal seeks to
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reduce war funding for FY2011 by $16 billion, in other words to provide $144 billion (President Obama has
requested $117 billion for FY2012, $27 billion dollars below our proposed level).
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=433x602906
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Well there used to be another political faction in favor of civil liberties you know
NoOneMan
Aug 2013
#1
So, if I agree to allow a third party, for example a house cleaner, to enter
Warren Stupidity
Aug 2013
#112
That poster will not respond to actual questions. The meme he pushes is frightening, consent is the
Bluenorthwest
Aug 2013
#122
Yes, but that was not the claim that was made. Have I ceded my 4th amendment rights?
Warren Stupidity
Aug 2013
#128
If the housekeeper is in possession of my information the government needs a
Warren Stupidity
Aug 2013
#221
No constitutional violation? What constitutes a violation of the Constitution for you?
RC
Aug 2013
#133
Why are you still paying attention to the obsessive reframer behind the curtian?
L0oniX
Aug 2013
#188
To convince people to not care about government spying on us because that helps ron paul.
L0oniX
Aug 2013
#107
If true, it is only because Democrats have ceded the ground on protecting civil liberties.
hlthe2b
Aug 2013
#16
As I said, virtually no DUer I know is in support of Rand Paul. But many of us are horrified at Dems
hlthe2b
Aug 2013
#54
...and then there's the Dems going right along with the Bush/repuke NSA DHS cause.
L0oniX
Aug 2013
#124
But we already knew all about these programs since 2006 or 1996 or 1776 or something?
Fumesucker
Aug 2013
#36
"the quickest way for Obama to make this go away is to be candid and forthright about it." No, see
stevenleser
Aug 2013
#85
That's nice. I even mostly agree. But it doesn't address your point to which I responded.
stevenleser
Aug 2013
#119
Look, we all know for a fact Obama is lying about one major aspect of domestic policy
Fumesucker
Aug 2013
#143
Personally, I thought the leak was a Benghazi-esque part of the Rand Paul campaign.
Coyotl
Aug 2013
#39
A Ratfuck from start to finish. And just look at how many fools swallowed it whole.
MjolnirTime
Aug 2013
#42
or that one doesn't know that Clapper was placed in a lying position but fuck facts, best to chase
uponit7771
Aug 2013
#62
...or that more than enough know to NOT ask certain questions in public of secret agencies but again
uponit7771
Aug 2013
#75
So The Excuse Is That American Citizens Do Not Need To Know - Hello, Democracy
cantbeserious
Aug 2013
#90
Labels and Propaganda. Misinformation and Disinformation - From the Toolkit of the Ruling Class.
Octafish
Aug 2013
#189
They have a brand? You mean those anti tax banner carriers and the 1% of primary voters Paul
Bluenorthwest
Aug 2013
#91
If you feel the need, you should do so. I'm telling it to you, the DUer claiming this 'brand' exists
Bluenorthwest
Aug 2013
#117
"The brand is Republican Brand." So Assange and Greenwald support Republicans?
ProSense
Aug 2013
#123
This post violates the Statement of Purpose for the General Forum - NO Conspiracy Theories -
Douglas Carpenter
Aug 2013
#100
No, it doesn't. It's an opinion, but I can see why it's important to deflect from
ProSense
Aug 2013
#102
Not to mention the ACLU brand, the Anmesty International Brand, and a few others.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Aug 2013
#130
The Pauls are like clockwork: They'll instantly leap upon the outrage of the day
Fire Walk With Me
Aug 2013
#136
As was the Iraq war which Libertarians oppose as well!! Damn Libertarians!!! nt
Demo_Chris
Aug 2013
#152
I support an America that sticks to its principles, cares about its people...
AZ Progressive
Aug 2013
#190
Who cares who leaked the information and for what theoretical ulterior motive?
Maedhros
Aug 2013
#167
as sure as the sun appears to rise in the east, avoid the message by attacking the messenger nt
msongs
Aug 2013
#171
It would take a true idiot to buy the pile of shit you're trying to sell.
DisgustipatedinCA
Aug 2013
#187