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It needed to be said. Thank you for saying it. Autumn Aug 2013 #1
Wait ProSense Aug 2013 #2
I swear, it's like you're *immune* to logic. Marr Aug 2013 #10
Kick and rec if you support the proposed NSA reforms. ProSense Aug 2013 #21
The reforms are weak which has been pointed out to you countless times. nt Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #73
It's amost as if she believes listening doesn't pay. last1standing Aug 2013 #74
And some people believe they get more buck for their bang by posting in quantity, not quality. n/t A Simple Game Aug 2013 #147
+1 Whoa. Is THAT ever true: Smarmie Doofus Aug 2013 #254
...and any amount of reforms would still be weak to the GG is god stokers, what difference uponit7771 Aug 2013 #103
Snark like yours adds zip to the conversation. Do you have any comments Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #107
Guess the OP flew right over your head. cui bono Aug 2013 #162
You're responding to someone who thinks universal healthcare and public schools are conservative. last1standing Aug 2013 #222
How do you feel about the massive surveillance programs Ron Wyden has been trying to warn sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #218
The ones that will be overseen by Clapper? For a day or so we were hopeful, then the Fox sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #219
Some people around here will call you a racist apologist if you agree with one word that stillwaiting Aug 2013 #22
She's not rewarded for being logical LondonReign2 Aug 2013 #38
What do logic and propaganda have to do with each other? last1standing Aug 2013 #43
I think they get vaccinated for the job. Fuddnik Aug 2013 #64
It's like automatic. A response is posted even if it doesnt pertain. Must get a response posted. rhett o rick Aug 2013 #185
Yes, seems designed to muddy the waters,. to make actual debate impossible. Civilization2 Aug 2013 #199
Most often a link back to another post bobduca Aug 2013 #213
Unless it is done by a bot KurtNYC Aug 2013 #252
The New Civil Rights Movement: against spying, lying, wars, ProCheney-ProAuthoritarian BS. chimpymustgo Aug 2013 #12
"We're for what democracy in general, and Democrats in particular are supposed to stand for." ProSense Aug 2013 #30
Just stop slandering DU'er's. This has NOTHING THE FUCK to do with RAND PAUL. chimpymustgo Aug 2013 #66
She just can't stand it that some people don't think Obama is perfect. lark Aug 2013 #180
LOL! ProSense Aug 2013 #205
Oh brother. Non one is fucking "slandering DU'er's." ProSense Aug 2013 #204
I AGREE! FUCK RAND PAUL!!!! cascadiance Aug 2013 #245
I have beened Cryptoad Aug 2013 #82
"I never thought I would have to fight in here. . " LondonReign2 Aug 2013 #171
Bull Cryptoad Aug 2013 #172
Agreed, the corporate-military spook supporters are the only ones bringing up the Pauls. Civilization2 Aug 2013 #200
And the Carlyle Group-owned, PNAC-led Booz Allen got $2 billion, courtesy of Obama. OnyxCollie Aug 2013 #20
"ProSense hearts Poppy Bush/Carlyle Group/PNAC/James Woolsey" ljm2002 Aug 2013 #67
Obama's second term: A productive six months. ProSense Aug 2013 #75
You are the one who repeatedly does guilt-by-association... ljm2002 Aug 2013 #80
Do you support the massive surveillance program Ron Wyden, a Democrat who I fully support btw sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #221
I do not think that is true. Th1onein Aug 2013 #161
Well I don't either... ljm2002 Aug 2013 #167
You think that there is an effort to "catapult the propaganda" here, or Th1onein Aug 2013 #189
I think it's catapulting the propaganda... ljm2002 Aug 2013 #194
You are right on point,. the attempt is to muddy the debate, and make treads unreadable / useless. Civilization2 Aug 2013 #203
Oh, now that's just dishonest. NuclearDem Aug 2013 #29
x2 AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2013 #51
"Please don't act like we're stupid. " ProSense Aug 2013 #59
You IGNORE the OP and post more pro-non-sense,. . unrelated noise, useless links to self,. . Civilization2 Aug 2013 #206
You just can't stop yourself can you? East Coast Pirate Aug 2013 #127
OMG... just fucking stop already. cui bono Aug 2013 #160
You know what: ProSense Aug 2013 #179
"people who believe nonsense" NealK Aug 2013 #187
The OP is not about Snowden not being a Paulite David Krout Aug 2013 #177
SSDD lark Aug 2013 #178
Just wow! Reading is fundamental,. the OP crushed you BEFORE you commented,. wow! Civilization2 Aug 2013 #198
So, if Assange and Greenwald wear a red tie than all people who wear red ties are Paulites? Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2013 #211
And why should we care about any of that? This President has no problems with Repulicans sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #217
LOL! I can almost guarantee you won't get a straight answer to that question. last1standing Aug 2013 #223
It's astounding, isn't it? The incredible childishness of it all. That they actually think people sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #226
Don't worry, tomorrow there will be an entirely new angle blasted through the forums. last1standing Aug 2013 #228
I think the money being spent is most likely going to Security Contractors to try to smear sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #235
Speaking of serial killers, do any of you religiously believe in Ayn Rand's obsession with one? cascadiance Aug 2013 #246
Quote, "if you're inclined to throw it at me, Fuck You." grahamhgreen Aug 2013 #239
K n R n2doc Aug 2013 #3
Their goal is not to convince anyone of anything bvar22 Aug 2013 #135
I really hate to think this, bvar, but I am slowly coming to the conclusion that it might be true. Th1onein Aug 2013 #164
I'm inclined to agree. I've noticed these little exit detours are almost always posted Marr Aug 2013 #188
Yup, you noticed a key tactic, the "exit path link", designed to pull eyes OFF the offending truth! Civilization2 Aug 2013 #208
Chomsky explains it: Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 #227
^^ +1. . . . . n/t annabanana Aug 2013 #248
It's almost funny-- this tiny, vacuum-sealed group points at everyone outside their tiny bubble Marr Aug 2013 #4
yes, it's exactly the same behavior I monitored at freerepublic.. grasswire Aug 2013 #40
Well it worked so well for them. zeemike Aug 2013 #41
Monty Python did a good bit about this Vinnie From Indy Aug 2013 #58
Are you now, or have you ever been, in a romantic relationship with a pole dancer? Newsjock Aug 2013 #5
yes... KoKo Aug 2013 #76
I wouldn't call my relationships with pole dancers as romantic hootinholler Aug 2013 #105
A vehement K&R followed by a Bonobo Aug 2013 #6
all this talk about paul this and paul that and paulites makes me think BOG PERSON Aug 2013 #7
Powerful and recommended. Cooley Hurd Aug 2013 #8
K to the friggin R! A pox on all this neo-McCarthyism masquerading as HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #9
I'm with you. marble falls Aug 2013 #13
I'm not that partisan 90-percent Aug 2013 #11
I've been on a fair amount the past week - TBF Aug 2013 #14
I agree with what you have said. Skidmore Aug 2013 #28
They've all been screwing the same pooch pscot Aug 2013 #139
Absolutely true alarimer Aug 2013 #15
100% with you. WinkyDink Aug 2013 #16
K & R n/t RoccoR5955 Aug 2013 #17
I'd say that 99.9% of DUers are opposed to domestic spying. randome Aug 2013 #18
Meh, it's just another desperate attempt to marginalize concern about the NSA's activities. winter is coming Aug 2013 #19
I would assume some of them actually know what is really going on, and is it much worse! Civilization2 Aug 2013 #209
Spot on. go west young man Aug 2013 #23
I also wanted to add this great post from Sabrina1 in regards to this matter from yesterday. go west young man Aug 2013 #27
yes, Bush and Obama both have that wrong grasswire Aug 2013 #46
^^^^This^^^^ truebluegreen Aug 2013 #150
She definitely nailed it. +! KoKo Aug 2013 #83
I am hoping that in upcoming election cycles, NorthCarolina Aug 2013 #98
I agree. Sabrina1 really nailed it with that post. bvar22 Aug 2013 #144
Michelle Bachmann, Rick Santorum and Lindsey Graham love mass surveillance. limpyhobbler Aug 2013 #24
You are pure then when it comes to name calling right? treestar Aug 2013 #25
do you have links to the OP calling others on this board names? would be instructive to see them. niyad Aug 2013 #37
It would be very instructive Autumn Aug 2013 #56
believe me, not holding my breath for that. niyad Aug 2013 #57
That's your entire thinking on the subject? A bunch of personal snark at the OP and an emoticon? Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #42
Your snarky reply is a good example of the problem that the OP is talking about. totodeinhere Aug 2013 #88
... SammyWinstonJack Aug 2013 #108
You would know, you are one of the worst. n-t Logical Aug 2013 #121
You are wasting my time. sibelian Aug 2013 #258
HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Aug 2013 #26
Ya nailed it Stinky and Dyedinthewoolliberal Aug 2013 #31
Its a disgusting logical fallacy Ichingcarpenter Aug 2013 #32
k and r niyad Aug 2013 #33
Fuck the libertarians, fuck the surveillance state, and SHAME on those Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 #34
+1 sarcasmo Aug 2013 #44
It's like they've never heard of an ad hominim attack before Salviati Aug 2013 #94
That it can occur here at all, in any form, much less consistently, is as frightening as the Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 #173
yes it is. nashville_brook Aug 2013 #176
Just remember, if you've done nothing wrong, well you have nothing to fear DainBramaged Aug 2013 #35
K&R forestpath Aug 2013 #36
K&R G_j Aug 2013 #39
BIG K&R LondonReign2 Aug 2013 #45
"We're your conscience." gulliver Aug 2013 #47
They're using basic propaganda techniques to demonize the enemy. last1standing Aug 2013 #48
yep,it's ugly stuff grasswire Aug 2013 #50
If there is, these people couldn't afford tuition. last1standing Aug 2013 #53
and the paranoia grasswire Aug 2013 #54
They're giving Paul and Libertarianism lots of publicity leftstreet Aug 2013 #65
Yes they are. last1standing Aug 2013 #102
thank you, Sailor! nt grasswire Aug 2013 #49
The Propagandists are trying to put us on the defensive AZ Progressive Aug 2013 #52
I'm against that kind of abuse now as I was when it was Bush doing it. I can't brewens Aug 2013 #55
I agree—spying is wrong.... No matter who is in the White House... midnight Aug 2013 #60
Well said. AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2013 #61
Exactly. This is McCarthyist tactics. backscatter712 Aug 2013 #120
SnowGlenn are Paulite Paulbots... Whisp Aug 2013 #62
...so says a snot splasher nonpareil. nt grasswire Aug 2013 #155
I don't support some whack-a-do thieves and charlatans Whisp Aug 2013 #156
Come on, Whisp, you know better than this kind of post. Th1onein Aug 2013 #165
There is no wholesale government spying on Americans. Whisp Aug 2013 #166
I love your certainty. "There is no wholesale government spying on Americans." rhett o rick Aug 2013 #190
you know how I'm so certain? Whisp Aug 2013 #193
Let's look at your logic. Because some idiots claimed Obama was born in Kenya rhett o rick Aug 2013 #230
Whisp! Even the government has admitted that they are collecting everything! Th1onein Aug 2013 #191
You fail when you get to "adore and trust" them. morningfog Aug 2013 #174
Maybe the party was taken over by George Wallace Democrats. Fuddnik Aug 2013 #63
Go Stinky! You rock! nt Mnemosyne Aug 2013 #68
You would think The Philosopher Aug 2013 #69
I wholeheartedly agree Stinky. mick063 Aug 2013 #70
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Aug 2013 #71
Sad times Loudestlib Aug 2013 #72
Nice post. You are one of many, many lifetime Democrats who are seriously wondering what sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #238
The best thing about calling out the Pauls and their supporters is that ProSense Aug 2013 #77
Start a rebuttal thread. You're like a fart in a wondstorm here. Stinky The Clown Aug 2013 #81
There is nothing to rebut except the strawman claim, which I ProSense Aug 2013 #92
Your trope is broke, your meme is maimed, your brand is burned.... Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #104
Look at the rec's and it is done. Autumn Aug 2013 #114
Here's another thread ProSense Aug 2013 #143
That was a good OP. Autumn Aug 2013 #148
Man, you're now reduced to spelling barbs. Stinky The Clown Aug 2013 #183
Some value principles over principals. Imagine that. AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2013 #86
An enthusiastic K&R! n/t totodeinhere Aug 2013 #78
If someone is for NSA spying simply because Paul is for it they are thinking like the Tea Party. Kablooie Aug 2013 #79
I think they have moved on to other equally lame talking points 99th_Monkey Aug 2013 #84
The facepalming one: mick063 Aug 2013 #95
Right on! damnedifIknow Aug 2013 #85
K&R! SammyWinstonJack Aug 2013 #87
Not everyone. But most certainly the "heroes" Snowden, Greenwald, and Assange MjolnirTime Aug 2013 #89
Thank you for saying what I've been thinking. crim son Aug 2013 #90
INDEED! tblue Aug 2013 #91
K and F'ing R Hydra Aug 2013 #93
We are all sick of it. But by now, most people just ignore it and focus on trying to get something sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #96
It's just plain juvenile and stupid, and Zorra Aug 2013 #97
Hear hear! East Coast Pirate Aug 2013 #99
On the issue of security vs privacy, there is a huge gender gap. lumberjack_jeff Aug 2013 #100
There lies the problem.......... Historic NY Aug 2013 #111
You dont think that shift could have anything to do with Egnever Aug 2013 #130
Those polls asked two different questions JHB Aug 2013 #159
You are a jackass. You complain other Dems create divisions on NSA Pretzel_Warrior Aug 2013 #101
Ah, the direct namecalling. A wonderful feature of your work. Do you really think it elevates your Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #106
Just getting tired of the fake condescension. Most of you are extremely flawed individuals too Pretzel_Warrior Aug 2013 #109
What do you mean by 'most of you'? Do you mean gay people? I'm just one guy. Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #116
You're not a very forgiving person, are you? Pretzel_Warrior Aug 2013 #119
How is that obvious? Why would I have a 'grudge' against some internet poster? Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #151
I reject that bullshit too, bvar22 Aug 2013 #196
Jury voted 3-3 to leave a direct ad-hominem attack. backscatter712 Aug 2013 #122
The whole OP was ad hominem attack on DU'ers who disagree with him. Pretzel_Warrior Aug 2013 #126
Really BeyondGeography Aug 2013 #152
You certainly are on a roll! zappaman Aug 2013 #163
A Kaiser roll? Rex Aug 2013 #225
Duh. zappaman Aug 2013 #236
Why I no longer participate in that system nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #136
I know where you're coming from. Stinky The Clown Aug 2013 #134
By the way, your transparency page is showing. Stinky The Clown Aug 2013 #182
OUCH. bvar22 Aug 2013 #197
He's coming from the grave. Starry Messenger Aug 2013 #229
i found it. darkangel218 Aug 2013 #237
What a mess of an OP BeyondGeography Aug 2013 #110
No, the OP means that if we believe the NSA is spying on us LondonReign2 Aug 2013 #132
There's a lot that's blatantly obvious in that stinky chocolate box of an OP BeyondGeography Aug 2013 #149
The democratic party leadership has been running away from civil liberties issues since Nixon. Warren Stupidity Aug 2013 #112
k&r Little Star Aug 2013 #113
They take their cue from Obama and the crowded space under his aircraft carrier sized bus MotherPetrie Aug 2013 #115
you will also be accused of being a foreign agent for China. hows that one eh? nt msongs Aug 2013 #117
K&R! This authoritarian, McCarthyist tactic needs to be a TOS violation. backscatter712 Aug 2013 #118
Lololol. You crack me up Pretzel_Warrior Aug 2013 #124
Post removed Post removed Aug 2013 #123
DURec. bvar22 Aug 2013 #125
Two words heard from a local party insider nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #128
Seems to me the ones talking about it are the ones "sick" of it. DevonRex Aug 2013 #129
They are projecting AgingAmerican Aug 2013 #131
Well said, Stinky The Clown. Octafish Aug 2013 #133
REC #200 nt alp227 Aug 2013 #137
And I care what you are sick and tired of why? Egnever Aug 2013 #138
Hooray for Stinky The Clown!! I remember tsuki Aug 2013 #140
the K and the R.... mike_c Aug 2013 #141
The depraved 'association smear' is a favorite of partisan hacks whatchamacallit Aug 2013 #142
We sir, are not just the Democrats conscience.. 99Forever Aug 2013 #145
they're angry and they've got nothing. Phlem Aug 2013 #146
Stasi-bot, sycophant, cheerleader, pom pomer, apologist, authoritarian... Whisp Aug 2013 #153
If only the Stasi-bot, sycophant, cheerleader, pom pomer, apologist, authoritarian ... JoePhilly Aug 2013 #251
It seems like there are only two choices left here: "Obama Apologist" or "Obama Hater" arcane1 Aug 2013 #154
K&R There is a lot of 'Left Baiting' felix_numinous Aug 2013 #157
Amen! nradisic Aug 2013 #158
Hear hear! Note that those who excuse this tend to also excuse......... Demo_Chris Aug 2013 #168
Damn right Stinky The Clown!! Howler Aug 2013 #169
I am getting fucking sick and tired of supposed liberal Democrats baldguy Aug 2013 #170
+1 SunSeeker Aug 2013 #224
248 Rec's so far. Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #175
knr Douglas Carpenter Aug 2013 #181
I question the motives of those who question our motives. DirkGently Aug 2013 #184
Seconded! Quantess Aug 2013 #186
Please, please tell me our government wouldnt lie to us. nm rhett o rick Aug 2013 #192
K&R DeSwiss Aug 2013 #195
Thank you Stinky the Clown n/t dflprincess Aug 2013 #201
Meh. We were already kicked out for complaining about Heritage Care. Doctor_J Aug 2013 #202
Imagine this story breaking between 2001-2008 madville Aug 2013 #207
It did, and no one gave a shit. SunSeeker Aug 2013 #232
For someone who wasn't here - Hell Hath No Fury Aug 2013 #234
LOL. The poster I was replying to was here since 2005... SunSeeker Aug 2013 #241
Fuck em. nt awoke_in_2003 Aug 2013 #210
Kick and Rec. NRaleighLiberal Aug 2013 #212
Couldn't agree more Stinky! Oakenshield Aug 2013 #214
I am against the spying Eko Aug 2013 #215
Well said, Stinky! Swiperthefox Aug 2013 #216
Indeed Wash. state Desk Jet Aug 2013 #220
K&R Eyerish Aug 2013 #231
A Bipartisan POLICE STATE... blkmusclmachine Aug 2013 #233
I love you, baby!!!! Time to seperate the wheat from the chaffe. grahamhgreen Aug 2013 #240
Happy to K&R this. nt laundry_queen Aug 2013 #242
You're just an insulting fellow. great white snark Aug 2013 #243
K&R idwiyo Aug 2013 #244
BAM!.. Thank you Stinky! annabanana Aug 2013 #247
The level of intellectual dishonesty is breathtaking. K&R n/t myrna minx Aug 2013 #249
Cons are such hypocrites thablueprint. Aug 2013 #250
Got links? JNelson6563 Aug 2013 #253
No links to real life, Julie Stinky The Clown Aug 2013 #255
Mea culpa JNelson6563 Aug 2013 #259
Now that that's all cleared up, have a swell day. Stinky The Clown Aug 2013 #260
And you as well. JNelson6563 Aug 2013 #261
I'm with you on each and every point. AikidoSoul Aug 2013 #256
K&R! TeamPooka Aug 2013 #257
*kick* One of the best threads ever! Thank you, Stinky! (nt) scarletwoman Aug 2013 #262
Here are some links to other NSA posts. rhett o rick Sep 2013 #263
Ah! Bookmarking for later. NYC_SKP Oct 2013 #264
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