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DirkGently

(12,151 posts)
21. Our International Morality Police credit is at 0.
Thu Aug 29, 2013, 12:47 PM
Aug 2013

All countries are hypocrites, but we're at some kind of critical mass at this point. We are the country that very recently fabricated a case for war in Iraq, decimated that country, plunged it into civil war and chaos, and kidnapped and tortured hundreds (thousands?) illegally in the process. Then we set up an indefinite detention center in which we have held people even we don't claim are guilty of anything for years, which remains to this day, and THEN shrugged and said nothing was to be done about any of it.

"We'll stop torturing, probably," was our great epiphany / apology to the world.

It's not just weak, but actually grotesque, that we now propose that we, not the U.N., our allies, or anyone else, will be the arbiters of whether yet another ME country we transparently wish to control for the same reason we wish to control the rest of the region, has "crossed the line," thereby entitling our righteous wrath.

This is not the way back to international pre-eminence.

This is the stuff of crumbling empire.

No truer words. jsr Aug 2013 #1
Damn right newfie11 Aug 2013 #2
DURec leftstreet Aug 2013 #3
Bingo. And I'll chip in for air fare. Scuba Aug 2013 #4
And Blair malaise Aug 2013 #5
Fine in theory, except... JayhawkSD Aug 2013 #6
We'll call it extraordinary rendition--that will cover it Demeter Aug 2013 #33
My laugh of the week - thank, Demeter. truedelphi Aug 2013 #44
It would have far more meaning, IMHO, if our own DoJ prosecuted Cheney and other HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #48
Bravo! City Lights Aug 2013 #7
long overdue Faryn Balyncd Aug 2013 #8
Yes indeed. nt AtomicKitten Aug 2013 #9
War Tribunal Finds Bush, Cheney Guilty of War Crimes PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #10
Old and not pertinent... brooklynite Aug 2013 #54
yes G_j Aug 2013 #11
while everyone on DU knows bushco was guilty of war crimes and treason dionysus Aug 2013 #12
Has the Hague started a case? treestar Aug 2013 #13
Torture is a war crime. JoeyT Aug 2013 #15
I don't know if our DU definitions are accepted by the Hague treestar Aug 2013 #16
Because every time anyone starts agitating about war crimes JoeyT Aug 2013 #18
I think this country recognized that as being wrong treestar Aug 2013 #22
Bush was just the happy, goofy, pretzel choking, truedelphi Aug 2013 #45
The Hague does have cases against Africans treestar Aug 2013 #49
Interestng tht the indictment against the current President of Kenya truedelphi Aug 2013 #66
It was a war of aggression. PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #17
thanks for that treestar Aug 2013 #19
Sadly the apologists don't care you can show them real data Rex Aug 2013 #35
Wow. Maedhros Aug 2013 #24
It's not surprising Ocelot Aug 2013 #25
Nothing new. Rex Aug 2013 #34
Typical treestar Aug 2013 #50
I would be concerned, if I had any respect for your flimsy arguments. [n/t] Maedhros Aug 2013 #55
At least I try to make one treestar Aug 2013 #56
Meh. [n/t] Maedhros Aug 2013 #57
Why would the Hague start a case if no one has brought one before them? Rex Aug 2013 #32
If you know how it works, explain treestar Aug 2013 #51
. Guy Whitey Corngood Aug 2013 #47
Exactly! gvstn Aug 2013 #14
Amen grahamhgreen Aug 2013 #20
Our International Morality Police credit is at 0. DirkGently Aug 2013 #21
And yet, the entire world (except for Russia and China) expect us to doing something FSogol Aug 2013 #31
"Expect" us to, or "want us to?" DirkGently Aug 2013 #41
'Crumbling empire', Dirk. You nailed it. toby jo Aug 2013 #40
It's sad. But if endless violent machinations are all we have DirkGently Aug 2013 #42
For using Chemical Weapons in Fallujah alone. The number of babies being born sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #23
. libodem Aug 2013 #26
One can use the same arguments vis-a-vis Bush/Cheney war crimes and Assad's alleged use of CW Maedhros Aug 2013 #27
Absolutely! Arctic Dave Aug 2013 #28
This ... CherokeeDem Aug 2013 #29
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Aug 2013 #30
Obama doesnt go after war criminals because iamthebandfanman Aug 2013 #36
Yes he is. He is Commander in Chief of a military that has propped up Congo truedelphi Aug 2013 #46
Yes walkerbait41 Aug 2013 #37
k & r that! n/t wildbilln864 Aug 2013 #38
We need to join the World Court WHEN CRABS ROAR Aug 2013 #39
But the decider of all things gets to practice dichotomous behavior in a most holy and indepat Aug 2013 #43
Hear, hear! nt Mnemosyne Aug 2013 #52
Double here, here and the rest of his cabal with him. n/t Cleita Aug 2013 #53
Amen, Cleita, amen. nt Mnemosyne Aug 2013 #60
Ditto bingo! emsimon33 Aug 2013 #58
Bump... nt Jesus Malverde Aug 2013 #59
Amen randr Aug 2013 #61
This should have more recommendations. Enthusiast Aug 2013 #62
K & R n/t Hotler Aug 2013 #63
Think outside the box damnedifIknow Aug 2013 #64
Can't we do both? Chan790 Aug 2013 #65
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