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In reply to the discussion: face it. There is a contingent on DU who love a shirtless Putin and are swooning [View all]CreekDog
(46,192 posts)43. you love the old DU. you don't say?
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PretzelWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 03:17 PM
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Hello All. This is my goodbye. I don't believe I've ever done this
before although I've read others say their goodbyes. At those times, it was usually a result of the internal squabbles that accompanied primaries when people lashed out at each other's candidates and someone couldn't stand the viciousness.
Well, as I've said before I was glad I found this site in 2003 when there were hardly any voices out there allowing us to feel we weren't a crazy minority in the wilderness. It was before Air America, Colbert Report, and so many other important additions to the progressive universe. It was a lifeline.
But so many years later after we've won what we all thought we were fighting for, there is a tragic kind of direction I've seen in this site. I gave to this site repeatedly through donations and group discussions/activities. I worked offline because of some of the things we discussed online. Yet all I hear is so much in the way of attacks on Obama. I guess because there are so many ways to find straight up news coverage of what's happening with Obama administration, this site sees itself as eternal police force and focuses on attacks.
I can't take it anymore. There are many long time voices of DU I just don't see here anymore which is sad. They were true progressives but also know that just because you backed a winner you don't get the club out and start beating the winner.
I'm accused of mental illness for not putting up with this. FOr not putting up with any unfair treatment. Okay. No problem. I admit to purposefully trying to get my message heard through provocative post titles. BUt I can see when it's over. This is not productive for me and I'm sad the direction this place has gone. Maybe it should just be called Opposition Underground. It seems no matter who is in office, the focus of the group here is to attack mercilessly whoever is currently in powr.
Good luck with that. Thanks to the many loyal posters who are still here. I've appreciated some of your work of late in amongst the garbage. Thanks you skinner and other admins..
PretzelWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 03:17 PM
Original message
Hello All. This is my goodbye. I don't believe I've ever done this
before although I've read others say their goodbyes. At those times, it was usually a result of the internal squabbles that accompanied primaries when people lashed out at each other's candidates and someone couldn't stand the viciousness.
Well, as I've said before I was glad I found this site in 2003 when there were hardly any voices out there allowing us to feel we weren't a crazy minority in the wilderness. It was before Air America, Colbert Report, and so many other important additions to the progressive universe. It was a lifeline.
But so many years later after we've won what we all thought we were fighting for, there is a tragic kind of direction I've seen in this site. I gave to this site repeatedly through donations and group discussions/activities. I worked offline because of some of the things we discussed online. Yet all I hear is so much in the way of attacks on Obama. I guess because there are so many ways to find straight up news coverage of what's happening with Obama administration, this site sees itself as eternal police force and focuses on attacks.
I can't take it anymore. There are many long time voices of DU I just don't see here anymore which is sad. They were true progressives but also know that just because you backed a winner you don't get the club out and start beating the winner.
I'm accused of mental illness for not putting up with this. FOr not putting up with any unfair treatment. Okay. No problem. I admit to purposefully trying to get my message heard through provocative post titles. BUt I can see when it's over. This is not productive for me and I'm sad the direction this place has gone. Maybe it should just be called Opposition Underground. It seems no matter who is in office, the focus of the group here is to attack mercilessly whoever is currently in powr.
Good luck with that. Thanks to the many loyal posters who are still here. I've appreciated some of your work of late in amongst the garbage. Thanks you skinner and other admins..
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face it. There is a contingent on DU who love a shirtless Putin and are swooning [View all]
Pretzel_Warrior
Sep 2013
OP
when I think about the things about the old DU that I miss, your posts aren't among them
CreekDog
Sep 2013
#51
if there are so many swooning posts, you could link to one or quote the words of one
CreekDog
Sep 2013
#241
there is legitimate criticism here (Cali supports the president and criticizes)
Pretzel_Warrior
Sep 2013
#90
So if I hate the idea of killing more children in the name of Exxon, you would criticize me
rhett o rick
Sep 2013
#268
I didn't make an analogy. I was merely responding to your post about people who can't
cui bono
Sep 2013
#98
I think they are unhappy that you said they swooned over Putin when I think almost NOBODY here does
CreekDog
Sep 2013
#236
yes, most of us have issues with you misrepresenting our opinions to make us sound like Putin lovers
CreekDog
Sep 2013
#242
Yeah, I haven't even seen that. It's amazing what people will say.
cherokeeprogressive
Sep 2013
#182
I've seen 'em. Putin is for peace, love, and rock'n'roll. Well maybe not rock (ask Pussy Riot)...
Hekate
Sep 2013
#224
Well it looks like I'm taking your word for it, cuz you say I have to. Not SOP for GD...
cherokeeprogressive
Sep 2013
#269
THIS and Pretzel Warrior can't and Pretzel Warrior won't --what does that tell you?
CreekDog
Sep 2013
#238
it's made up bullshit and the OP has responded that he won't provide examples
CreekDog
Sep 2013
#245
Often the main ones doing the "what Putin love? I see NUTHING!" are the main ones kicking
Number23
Sep 2013
#288
Look at it this way, the freeperville fund raiser has to end some time, right?..n/t
monmouth3
Sep 2013
#17
UH OH, he has a gun. Oh wait, he is a 1% and in government, so it is ok
The Straight Story
Sep 2013
#31
I'm quite certain you may even think a handful of people may believe that little rationalization...
LanternWaste
Sep 2013
#52
Well, maybe when you start threads calling anyone opposed to military intervention Putin lovers
NuclearDem
Sep 2013
#32
that's not what I was doing. I was calling people who give high praise to Putin "Putin Lovers"
Pretzel_Warrior
Sep 2013
#34
I don't think you will understand why this post is offensive even if I explain it to you.
LiberalAndProud
Sep 2013
#30
I'm right there with you on that. This has nothing to do with that specifically
Pretzel_Warrior
Sep 2013
#35
What do you expect to achieve by posting this (REDACTED TO AVOID HIDING BY JURY)?
2ndAmForComputers
Sep 2013
#40
I have. probably WAY MORE than you. FDR delayed D-day specifically to bleed Russia
Pretzel_Warrior
Sep 2013
#74
Good grief. We weren't ready in 1942 or 1943 to invade Europe. We didn't have enough
neverforget
Sep 2013
#193
I made a point about what I saw on DU re: Putin. People can choose to agree or disagree or ignore
Pretzel_Warrior
Sep 2013
#92
except of course when the owner of chemical weapons decides to back down
VanillaRhapsody
Sep 2013
#104
I agree, it's amazing this is supposed to be for Democrats when the GD has so many
cui bono
Sep 2013
#162
Well I disagree. I feel the board has been taken over by people who are blindly loyal
cui bono
Sep 2013
#250
this isn't about pro war or anti war. it is about people who love to diss Obama so much
Pretzel_Warrior
Sep 2013
#119
I got that loud and clear from the OP. Why it's so hard for others to grasp I do not know. nt
Hekate
Sep 2013
#251
I wafted this thread towards my nose and also got a hint of homophobia.
Gravitycollapse
Sep 2013
#225
2009-2010 DU was toxic, nasty, & included a stalking group calling out even imagined homophobes
Hekate
Sep 2013
#259
"Disagree on the merits" - seriously? The op is a flamebait trolling piece of crap.
Warren Stupidity
Sep 2013
#285
Possibly the reference to swooning. Only BOGgers are supposed to swoon. Or at least people say we do
Hekate
Sep 2013
#303
I don't have a problem with that. You go on believing there are people here who are swooning over
cherokeeprogressive
Sep 2013
#186
"Do you like to ride?" He asked, his icy blue eyes seeming to look into my very soul.
scarletwoman
Sep 2013
#189
Rec'ing this thread just for this post. Props to everyone that made the personal choice not to get
Number23
Sep 2013
#292
Just my 2 cents... this post was bait. Lost me at accusing someone of having love for Putin.
gtar100
Sep 2013
#293
I see now people are LOOKING for reasons to hide threads. Here was my comment
Pretzel_Warrior
Sep 2013
#297