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LostOne4Ever

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88. Death Penalty

Sat Sep 14, 2013, 06:02 AM

Sep 2013

Rape is a horrible horrible crime, but it does not amount to death. The punishment should fit the crime.

Further, if this was implemented it would just be another way for the innocent people to be put to death by the state. People who will never get justice for their murder.

The system needs to be fixed where women are listened to more by the system and where they get the education and support they need to deal with the trauma they are exposed to.

Society also needs to do a better job of telling young men that no means no and impressing upon everyone to respect one another.

These would be better ways of dealing with the problem.

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India sentences four rapists to death. We should do the same. [View all] riqster Sep 2013 OP

fuck Mr. Blunt and Cranky- to be blunt cali Sep 2013 #1

+1000 Puglover Sep 2013 #21

hey Pug cali Sep 2013 #22

Watching the sun set behind my beloved Cotacachi. Puglover Sep 2013 #68

Nope. Iggo Sep 2013 #2

I'm against the DP period treestar Sep 2013 #3

If you support executing anyone ever, you support sometimes executing innocent people. Donald Ian Rankin Sep 2013 #4

+1 nomorenomore08 Sep 2013 #69

I disagree Marrah_G Sep 2013 #5

I though India sentenced four *murderers* to death?? Blue_Tires Sep 2013 #6

^^^^^...and then there's this. ^^^^^ Iggo Sep 2013 #54

Exactly. The headline is a lie. nt. Mariana Sep 2013 #61

No, it's not. They murdered the girl by brutally raping her. riqster Sep 2013 #62

No. I am unalterably opposed to the death penalty MineralMan Sep 2013 #7

My objections are somewhat broader. Here is the text of an op-ed I wrote some years ago: Jackpine Radical Sep 2013 #29

Excellent. Should be an OP. nomorenomore08 Sep 2013 #76

The death penalty is medieval and barbaric and an embarrassment to the United States. Nye Bevan Sep 2013 #8

No death penalty. LWOP-Life With Out Parole nt stevenleser Sep 2013 #9

If I thought they'd actually keep it and not change it later, sure. riqster Sep 2013 #16

fucking ridiculous. first to use that anomoly as an example cali Sep 2013 #19

What I am is a rape survivor. riqster Sep 2013 #26

so am I. YOU sure the hell don't speak for me. cali Sep 2013 #33

I would never dream of speaking for you. riqster Sep 2013 #36

sorry, sicko porn fantasies of executions deserve nothing but cali Sep 2013 #40

Once again, assuming you understand my motivations. riqster Sep 2013 #46

oh please, there's no issue too small. you enjoy insulting others here. bettyellen Sep 2013 #51

that's just bullshit. cali Sep 2013 #53

wow, I'm surprised this is news to you. bettyellen Sep 2013 #56

Have you thought about anger management? Katashi_itto Sep 2013 #72

I'm sorry for what happened to you, rigster! Sissyk Sep 2013 #60

I'd say that's the exact same as one of the more pragmatic reasons for petronius Sep 2013 #25

Then why are rates of violent crime roughly half what they were 20 years ago? nomorenomore08 Sep 2013 #77

How about paedophilia? sibelian Sep 2013 #10

Louisiana already does that IIRC. NuclearDem Sep 2013 #13

That, too, is rape. nt riqster Sep 2013 #17

A society that can't find a better solution than the DP is in trouble. marmar Sep 2013 #11

Absolutely not. The death penalty is utterly barbaric. NuclearDem Sep 2013 #12

Like I said, I respect complete opposition to the DP. riqster Sep 2013 #14

castration? GeorgeGist Sep 2013 #73

Welcome to Saudi America MNBrewer Sep 2013 #75

+1 nomorenomore08 Sep 2013 #78

"Maybe there's another way" -- but then again there's no evidence that the DP would work fishwax Sep 2013 #90

Yes .. throw away all sense of moral decency Trajan Sep 2013 #15

They were sentenced to death for the rape And Murder of the girl gollygee Sep 2013 #18

They should suffer the same torture that RebelOne Sep 2013 #57

I disagree I don't think there is ever a reason to employ the death penalty! gopiscrap Sep 2013 #20

I clicked the link. How fucking dare you? cali Sep 2013 #23

what a stinking pile of shit Mr B&C deposited. And LIES. He's a fucking liar of the worst kind. cali Sep 2013 #24

Yeah, that some sick stuff NoOneMan Sep 2013 #30

See post 26. And learn not to make assumptions. riqster Sep 2013 #32

I wouldn't be suprised if adding the DP would make ZombieHorde Sep 2013 #27

I think it would make survivors of rape less common. Mariana Sep 2013 #42

Good point. nt ZombieHorde Sep 2013 #48

This is an excellent point. mythology Sep 2013 #85

Im bored of "I opposed the death penalty except...." NoOneMan Sep 2013 #28

No, we should not do the same. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2013 #31

Why don't we just execute all men while we're at it? They suck! Laelth Sep 2013 #34

Sorry, no LittleBlue Sep 2013 #35

No. Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2013 #37

killing is killing. spanone Sep 2013 #38

what are the particulars here? cali Sep 2013 #39

Pragmatically: TheDeputy Sep 2013 #41

Yeah, it's expensive but it's also morally indefensible. cali Sep 2013 #43

Right as a deterrent. TheDeputy Sep 2013 #44

Whoever wrote that is a very sick individual tkmorris Sep 2013 #45

No to DP, No to Life Without Possibility of Parole. idwiyo Sep 2013 #47

That would be stupid on many levels The Straight Story Sep 2013 #49

The death penalty is useless and expensive. onehandle Sep 2013 #50

Death is a bit much. Vashta Nerada Sep 2013 #52

No, death is not a bit much. RebelOne Sep 2013 #66

Yes it is. Vashta Nerada Sep 2013 #67

Yeah sure, and have taxpayers pay for the next 50 RebelOne Sep 2013 #71

That's what I was implying in my post, with your last two sentences. Vashta Nerada Sep 2013 #86

No, because capital punishment has never been a deterrent...nt joeybee12 Sep 2013 #55

Yep. Castration and death by fire. cliffordu Sep 2013 #58

Thank you, Torquemada. rug Sep 2013 #63

I used to work with street kids. cliffordu Sep 2013 #65

You'll have to tell me about that work some time. rug Sep 2013 #80

It broke my heart. Mebbe my soul. cliffordu Sep 2013 #81

Sorry to hear that, cliff. rug Sep 2013 #82

Thank you, my friend. cliffordu Sep 2013 #87

No. They did not. They sentenced 4 murderers to death. uppityperson Sep 2013 #59

Only if you want more rapists to murder their victims to eliminate accusations. Starry Messenger Sep 2013 #64

Rape hardly ever ends in conviction. What does the DP do to address the actual issue? RedCappedBandit Sep 2013 #70

Which part, exactly, deserves the death penalty here? MNBrewer Sep 2013 #74

They didn't execute 4 rapists Nevernose Sep 2013 #79

We need to take rape - and ALL violent crime - more seriously than we do. Warren DeMontague Sep 2013 #83

generally trapdoor hanging is gruesome but quick. Warren Stupidity Sep 2013 #84

Death Penalty LostOne4Ever Sep 2013 #88

We've got some really sick people here. n/t Egalitarian Thug Sep 2013 #89

Absolutely not. 99Forever Sep 2013 #91