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Octafish

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90. Wow! McAdams, the professional debunker.

Sun Sep 15, 2013, 10:25 AM

Sep 2013

An article from John McAdams does not mean it's true.

McAdams is a disinformationalist and smear artiste.

As for the suspicious deaths, here's one that more people need to know about:

Oswald's white Russian friend and apparent CIA minder was an associate of George HW Bush. After deMohrenschildt's death by shotgun in the mouth, investigators from the House Select Committee on Assassination found an address book containing an entry for "Bush, George H. W. (Poppy), 1412 W. Ohio also Zapata Petroleum, Midland" as well as kids' names and birthdays. It really is a small world.

"The Last Investigation" (New York: Thunder's Mouth Press, 1993), p. 358n, by Gaeton Fonzi.

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With McAdams as your teacher, zappaman, it's no wonder you don't know much about JFK or the assassination.

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Who murdered JFK? [View all] gopiscrap Sep 2013 OP

I voted Other True_Blue Sep 2013 #1

that would mean you vote mafia gopiscrap Sep 2013 #2

Yes, Mafia True_Blue Sep 2013 #5

It's ok, did you change it? gopiscrap Sep 2013 #8

Yes True_Blue Sep 2013 #13

I thought there was a way for you to change your vote gopiscrap Sep 2013 #18

I just noticed the undo button True_Blue Sep 2013 #31

I don't think it was one group but a combination of several ... Auggie Sep 2013 #3

possibly Gerald Ford gopiscrap Sep 2013 #10

More along the likes of Prescott Bush & Company, perhaps, or their followers Auggie Sep 2013 #92

+1...nt Jesus Malverde Sep 2013 #89

I'll take the CIA...with Oswald set up to take the fall. mnhtnbb Sep 2013 #4

Me too ^^ this ^^ ~nt~ 99th_Monkey Sep 2013 #29

Agree. GentryDixon Sep 2013 #55

I also took the CIA Politicalboi Sep 2013 #61

I think you're right about Bush and Johnson. mnhtnbb Sep 2013 #83

So you think that Poppy Bush himself was there? Bay Boy Sep 2013 #105

"It is very complicated" nt PCIntern Sep 2013 #6

It was obviously Obama... Dr Hobbitstein Sep 2013 #7

I love it and if that answer was serious I'd say you'd be suffering ODS gopiscrap Sep 2013 #11

"It was love that killed Kennedy!" Warren DeMontague Sep 2013 #9

seriously? I love it when peole come in with far fetched theories gopiscrap Sep 2013 #12

Although I voted Oswald, it is strongly possible that he was set up by the Mafia. GreenStormCloud Sep 2013 #14

There is no right answer that can be proven tech3149 Sep 2013 #15

I think the Soviets said it all a day after it happened.... RagAss Sep 2013 #16

Wow interesting gopiscrap Sep 2013 #17

My parents didn't have a TV either True_Blue Sep 2013 #33

They pretty much hit the nail on the head. roamer65 Sep 2013 #21

The real power lies in darkness, hidden, secret and protecting RKP5637 Sep 2013 #53

Nope. Ratherthe opposite. Scootaloo Sep 2013 #84

You're right, as usual cpwm17 Sep 2013 #93

Also, our corrupt system isn't "by design" Scootaloo Sep 2013 #94

Excellent point! ... another example, are the Koch Brothers. n/t RKP5637 Sep 2013 #116

Uncle Wally's comments 2naSalit Sep 2013 #28

Vladimir was right on! gopiscrap Sep 2013 #115

Dear me, do so many people believe in conspiracy theories? PlanetaryOrbit Sep 2013 #19

Reality sucks cpwm17 Sep 2013 #23

I agree, people really disappoint me. Woo Woo! n-t Logical Sep 2013 #26

Dear me, do some people really feel like they have to post derision? chervilant Sep 2013 #30

Yes. And many of them aren't stupid by a long way. n/t Raksha Sep 2013 #63

A lot of people just can't seem to bear the idea that a big event might have a small cause. Silent3 Sep 2013 #65

Many people are ignorant. avaistheone1 Sep 2013 #73

Did they ever unconver evidence for *a particular conspiracy*? Silent3 Sep 2013 #85

The HSCA did not identify suspects. Many they wanted to interview ended up dead by violence. Octafish Sep 2013 #87

People still promote that suspicious deaths nonsense? zappaman Sep 2013 #88

Wow! McAdams, the professional debunker. Octafish Sep 2013 #90

Have you decided if Oswald was a hero yet? zappaman Sep 2013 #96

Seeing how he was murdered while in police custody before trial... Octafish Sep 2013 #99

charnin does great work questionseverything Sep 2013 #107

A stupid story about a lone nut noise Sep 2013 #98

What makes it a "stupid story"? Silent3 Sep 2013 #109

It can't be a high level conspiracy noise Sep 2013 #110

Who's saying "it can't be"? Silent3 Sep 2013 #112

The HSCA also concluded that Lee Harvey Oswald killed Kennedy Major Nikon Sep 2013 #97

Pick up a book sometime. avaistheone1 Sep 2013 #72

Dear me, do so many people believe in official fairy tales? JackRiddler Sep 2013 #114

Perhaps an option should be "The Right Wing" Coyotl Sep 2013 #20

good point gopiscrap Sep 2013 #22

Has anyone pointed out the proper forum sharp_stick Sep 2013 #24

This is the proper forum. avaistheone1 Sep 2013 #74

Oswald. Any other answer and you are in the wrong forum!! n-t Logical Sep 2013 #25

Oswald acted alone. ZERO evidence on ANY other scenario. Evidence overwhelming. RBInMaine Sep 2013 #27

In 1986 there was a "movie" On Trial: Lee Harvey Oswald avebury Sep 2013 #60

You couldn't be more wrong. avaistheone1 Sep 2013 #69

How many times do you plan to repeat the same post? mahina Sep 2013 #78

From the HSCA report: nyquil_man Sep 2013 #121

Who killed the Kennedys? Well after all, it was you and me. Motown_Johnny Sep 2013 #32

I could hardly believe this wasn't a choice in the original poll. dimbear Sep 2013 #58

Forgot about that! treestar Sep 2013 #101

53 Reasons It Was Lee Harvey Oswald Bolo Boffin Sep 2013 #34

These are excellent posts from Bolo Boffin cpwm17 Sep 2013 #39

Ask Poppy Bush CrawlingChaos Sep 2013 #35

He's a suspect based on what he told FBI. Octafish Sep 2013 #37

amazing gopiscrap Sep 2013 #45

Correct not much more needs to be said. gordianot Sep 2013 #62

I didn't read that entire post but.. Bay Boy Sep 2013 #106

Poppy Bush reported the threat AFTER President Kennedy was dead. Octafish Sep 2013 #111

Military Industrial Complex and Dixie Octafish Sep 2013 #36

Interesting post! gopiscrap Sep 2013 #44

The fact the biggest number of people voted Oswald gives me hope duffyduff Sep 2013 #38

The sum of the various non-Oswald choices still adds up to more than Oswald Silent3 Sep 2013 #64

Lee Harvey pulled the trigger. Incitatus Sep 2013 #40

so you subscribe to Arlen Specter's lone gunman theory? gopiscrap Sep 2013 #41

I'm not convined either way. Incitatus Sep 2013 #47

Specter is the one who came up with the magic bullet theory gopiscrap Sep 2013 #48

Impossible Bullet Octafish Sep 2013 #91

I think you're right on that point, Octafish! LongTomH Sep 2013 #108

Special Message to the Congress on Protecting the Consumer Interest. Octafish Sep 2013 #117

My fave theory is that Oswald acted alone, but that he was aiming for Connally. Benton D Struckcheon Sep 2013 #42

Ineteresting I knew the part about Connelly but I never knew that gopiscrap Sep 2013 #43

I've thought that since I was a kid reading that letter in the Warren report. trackfan Sep 2013 #67

Werner Herzog once gave a long speech about how good the Warren Commission report is Recursion Sep 2013 #46

Hunter S. Thompson and It was an Accident. Wolf Frankula Sep 2013 #49

how do you figure? gopiscrap Sep 2013 #50

Rumor Has It he Said so. Wolf Frankula Sep 2013 #57

Had a chance to see the scene in Dallas treestar Sep 2013 #102

50 years later Niceguy1 Sep 2013 #51

actually it does matter gopiscrap Sep 2013 #52

No. It does. Iggo Sep 2013 #54

Why not? avaistheone1 Sep 2013 #70

He said it doesn't matter, and I said "No. It does (matter)." Iggo Sep 2013 #75

How can you say that? avaistheone1 Sep 2013 #71

No Cuba? joshcryer Sep 2013 #56

How can we possibly tell when the PTB compromised or hid so much evidence? n/t eridani Sep 2013 #59

I wish I knew. Blue_In_AK Sep 2013 #66

JFK. Albiet a JFK from an alternate timeline where he survived the assasination attmept... TheMightyFavog Sep 2013 #68

Cuba, CIA, Mafia triangle. defacto7 Sep 2013 #76

I do not know, but the story told by the state smells like poo-poo. n/t PowerToThePeople Sep 2013 #77

Skull and Bones Society B Calm Sep 2013 #79

This vote shows the lack of persuasive skills Lone-nutters have nt Stupefacto Sep 2013 #80

Garrison was RIGHT DiverDave Sep 2013 #81

I believe it was the same shadowy crew of covert operatives deutsey Sep 2013 #82

Other Hayduke Bomgarte Sep 2013 #86

There were two gunmen Taverner Sep 2013 #95

Oswald treestar Sep 2013 #100

The only reason I went with the CIA is Rex Sep 2013 #103

As long as we're prancing far afield with every option for creative speculation, why not include MADem Sep 2013 #104

Get rid of all that garnish. JackRiddler Sep 2013 #113

It was Oswald, working for the CIA The Second Stone Sep 2013 #118

this amazes me that I would get this much response to the poll question gopiscrap Sep 2013 #119

I thought only right-wingers believed conspiracy theories to this sort of extent. PlanetaryOrbit Sep 2013 #120