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Octafish

(55,745 posts)
99. Seeing how he was murdered while in police custody before trial...
Sun Sep 15, 2013, 02:24 PM
Sep 2013

...I'll stick to what I wrote: I don' t know.

Why do you attempt to smear me for believing in due process, zappaman?

Don't you know Oswald has a background in US intelligence?

I'm not really surprised so few Americans know his story:



JAMES WILCOTT'S TESTIMONY

James B. Wilcott, a former CIA accountant, swore in a secret session of the House Select Committee on Assassinations that he was told by other CIA employees that Lee Harvey Oswald was paid by the CIA, and that money he himself had disbursed was for "Oswald or the Oswald project." The HSCA report indicated that other CIA employees discounted Wilcott's testimony, but none of their statements were included in the report. The document excerpted below was acquired by John Armstrong after his JFK Lancer NID97 presentation. Selected pages from the National Archives are presented graphically; the remainder, to preserve bandwidth, are excerpted typographically. A link to the complete text of Wilcott's testimony is provided near the bottom of this page.

EXECUTIVE SESSION

ASSASSINATION OF PRESIDENT JOHN F. KENNEDY

WEDNESDAY, MARCH 22, 1978

House of Representatives,

John F. Kennedy Subcommittee
of the Select Committee on
Assassinations,

Washington, D.C.


<. . . . >

TESTIMONY OF JAMES B. WILCOTT, A FORMER EMPLOYEE
OF THE CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE AGENCY:


Mr. Goldsmith. For the record, would you please state your name and address and occupation?

Mr. Wilcott. My name is James B. Wilcott. My address is 2761 Atlantic Street, in Concord, and my occupation is electronic technician.

< . . . . >

Mr. Goldsmith. And, Mr. Wilcott, is it true that you are a former employee with the CIA and that you are here today testifying voluntarily without a subpoena?

Mr. Wilcott. Yes.

Mr. Goldsmith. During what years did you work for the CIA?

Mr. Wilcott. I worked from the years, May, of 1957 to, April, of 1966.

Mr. Goldsmith. And in what general capacity did you work with the CIA?

Mr. Wilcott. All in the finance--in accounting all of the time.

<. . . .>

Mr. Goldsmith. Drawing your attention to the period immediately after the assassination of President Kennedy, at that time, did you come across any information concerning Lee Harvey Oswald's relationship with the CIA?

Mr. Wilcott. Yes, I did.

Mr. Goldsmith. And will you tell the Committee what that relationship was?

Mr. Wilcott. Well, it was my understanding that Lee Harvey Oswald was an employee of the agency and was an agent of the agency.

Mr. Goldsmith. What do you mean by the term "agent?"

Mr. Wilcott. That he was a regular employee, receiving a full-time salary for agent work for doing CIA operational work.

Mr. Goldsmith. How did this information concerning Oswald first come to your attention?

Mr. Wilcott. The first time I heard about Oswald being connected in any way with CIA was the day after the Kennedy assassination.

Mr. Goldsmith. And how did that come to your attention?

Mr. Wilcott. Well, I was on day duty for the station. It was a guard-type function at the station, which I worked for overtime. There was a lot of excitement going on at the station after the Kennedy assassination.
Towards the end of my tour of duty, I heard certain things about Oswald somehow being connected with the agency, and I didn't really believe this when I heard it, and I thought it was absurd. Then, as time went on, I began to hear more things in that line.

Mr. Goldsmith. I think we had better go over that one more time. When, exactly, was the very first time that you heard or came across information that Oswald was an agent?

Mr. Wilcott. I heard references to it the day after the assassination.

Mr. Goldsmith. And who made these references to Oswald being an agent of the CIA?

Mr. Wilcott. I can't remember the exact persons. There was talk about it going on at the station, and several months following at the station.

Mr. Goldsmith. How many people made this reference to Oswald being an agent of the CIA?

Mr. Wilcott. At least--there was at least six or seven people, specifically, who said that they either knew or believed Oswald to be an agent of the CIA.

Mr. Goldsmith. Was Jerry Fox one of the people that made this allegation?

Mr. Wilcott. To the best of my recollection, yes.

Mr. Goldsmith. And who is Jerry Fox?

Mr. Wilcott. Jerry Fox was a Case Officer for his branch, the Soviet Russia Branch, Station, who purchased information from the Soviets.

Mr. Goldsmith. Mr. Wilcott, did I ask you to prepare a list of CIA Case Officers working at the Station in 1963?

Mr. Wilcott. Yes, you did.

<. . . .>

Mr. Goldsmith. At the time that this allegation first came to your attention, did you discuss it with anyone?

Mr. Wilcott. Oh, yes. I discussed it with my friends and the people that I was associating with socially.

Mr. Goldsmith. Who were your friends that you discussed this with?

Mr. Wilcott. George Breen, Ed Luck, and .

Mr. Goldsmith. Who was George Breen?

Mr. Wilcott. George Breen was a person in Registry, who was my closest friend while I was in .

Mr. Goldsmith. Was he a CIA employee?

Mr. Wilcott. Yes, he was.

Mr. Goldsmith. And would he corroborate your observation that Oswald was an agent?

Mr. Wilcott. I don't know.

Mr. Goldsmith. At the time that this allegation first came to your attention, did you learn the name of Oswald's Case Officer at the CIA?

Mr. Wilcott. No.

Mr. Goldsmith. Were there any other times during your stay with the CIA at Station that you came across information that Oswald had been a CIA agent?

Mr. Wilcott. Yes.

Mr. Goldsmith. When was that?

Mr. Wilcott. The specific incident was soon after the Kennedy assassination, where an agent, a Case Officer--I am sure it was a Case Officer--came up to my window to draw money, and he specifically said in the conversation that ensued, he specifically said, "Well, Jim, the money that I drew the last couple of weeks ago or so was money" either for the Oswald project or for Oswald.

Mr. Goldsmith. Do you remember the name of this Case Officer?

Mr. Wilcott. No, I don't.

Mr Goldsmith. Do you remember when specifically this conversation took place?

Mr. Wilcott. Not specifically, only generally.

Mr. Goldsmith. How many months after the assassination was this?

Mr. Wilcott. I think it must have been two or three omths after the assassination.

Mr. Goldsmith. And do you remember were this conversation took place?

Mr. Wilcott. It was right at my window, my disbursing cage window.

Mr. Goldsmith. Did you discuss this information with anyone?

Mr. Wilcott. Oh, yes.

Mr. Goldsmith. With whom?

Mr. Wilcott. Certainly with George Breen, the circle of social friends that we had.

Mr. Goldsmith. How do you spell last name?

Mr. Wilcott. (spelling).

<. . . .>

Mr. Goldsmith. Did this Case Officer tell you what Oswald's cryptonym was?

Mr. Wilcott. Yes, he mentioned the cryptonym specifically under which the money was drawn.

Mr. Goldsmith. And what did he tell you the cryptonym was?

Mr. Wilcott. I cannot remember.

Mr. Goldsmith. What was your response to this revelation as to what Oswald's cryptonym was? Did you write it down or do anything?

Mr. Wilcott. No; I think that I looked through my advance book--and I had a book where the advances on project were run, and I leafed through them, and I must have at least leafed through them to see if what he said was true.

CONTINUED (Waybac cache, probably will be scrubbed by some turds' chums) ...

http://web.archive.org/web/20030212112648/http://home.wi.rr.com/harveyandlee/Wilcott/Wilcott.htm



One thing more you should know: John McAdams has an Octafish page? Spooky, huh?
Who murdered JFK? [View all] gopiscrap Sep 2013 OP
I voted Other True_Blue Sep 2013 #1
that would mean you vote mafia gopiscrap Sep 2013 #2
Yes, Mafia True_Blue Sep 2013 #5
It's ok, did you change it? gopiscrap Sep 2013 #8
Yes True_Blue Sep 2013 #13
I thought there was a way for you to change your vote gopiscrap Sep 2013 #18
I just noticed the undo button True_Blue Sep 2013 #31
I don't think it was one group but a combination of several ... Auggie Sep 2013 #3
possibly Gerald Ford gopiscrap Sep 2013 #10
More along the likes of Prescott Bush & Company, perhaps, or their followers Auggie Sep 2013 #92
+1...nt Jesus Malverde Sep 2013 #89
I'll take the CIA...with Oswald set up to take the fall. mnhtnbb Sep 2013 #4
Me too ^^ this ^^ ~nt~ 99th_Monkey Sep 2013 #29
Agree. GentryDixon Sep 2013 #55
I also took the CIA Politicalboi Sep 2013 #61
I think you're right about Bush and Johnson. mnhtnbb Sep 2013 #83
So you think that Poppy Bush himself was there? Bay Boy Sep 2013 #105
"It is very complicated" nt PCIntern Sep 2013 #6
It was obviously Obama... Dr Hobbitstein Sep 2013 #7
I love it and if that answer was serious I'd say you'd be suffering ODS gopiscrap Sep 2013 #11
"It was love that killed Kennedy!" Warren DeMontague Sep 2013 #9
seriously? I love it when peole come in with far fetched theories gopiscrap Sep 2013 #12
Although I voted Oswald, it is strongly possible that he was set up by the Mafia. GreenStormCloud Sep 2013 #14
There is no right answer that can be proven tech3149 Sep 2013 #15
I think the Soviets said it all a day after it happened.... RagAss Sep 2013 #16
Wow interesting gopiscrap Sep 2013 #17
My parents didn't have a TV either True_Blue Sep 2013 #33
They pretty much hit the nail on the head. roamer65 Sep 2013 #21
The real power lies in darkness, hidden, secret and protecting RKP5637 Sep 2013 #53
Nope. Ratherthe opposite. Scootaloo Sep 2013 #84
You're right, as usual cpwm17 Sep 2013 #93
Also, our corrupt system isn't "by design" Scootaloo Sep 2013 #94
Excellent point! ... another example, are the Koch Brothers. n/t RKP5637 Sep 2013 #116
Uncle Wally's comments 2naSalit Sep 2013 #28
Vladimir was right on! gopiscrap Sep 2013 #115
Dear me, do so many people believe in conspiracy theories? PlanetaryOrbit Sep 2013 #19
Reality sucks cpwm17 Sep 2013 #23
I agree, people really disappoint me. Woo Woo! n-t Logical Sep 2013 #26
Dear me, do some people really feel like they have to post derision? chervilant Sep 2013 #30
Yes. And many of them aren't stupid by a long way. n/t Raksha Sep 2013 #63
A lot of people just can't seem to bear the idea that a big event might have a small cause. Silent3 Sep 2013 #65
Many people are ignorant. avaistheone1 Sep 2013 #73
Did they ever unconver evidence for *a particular conspiracy*? Silent3 Sep 2013 #85
The HSCA did not identify suspects. Many they wanted to interview ended up dead by violence. Octafish Sep 2013 #87
People still promote that suspicious deaths nonsense? zappaman Sep 2013 #88
Wow! McAdams, the professional debunker. Octafish Sep 2013 #90
Have you decided if Oswald was a hero yet? zappaman Sep 2013 #96
Seeing how he was murdered while in police custody before trial... Octafish Sep 2013 #99
charnin does great work questionseverything Sep 2013 #107
A stupid story about a lone nut noise Sep 2013 #98
What makes it a "stupid story"? Silent3 Sep 2013 #109
It can't be a high level conspiracy noise Sep 2013 #110
Who's saying "it can't be"? Silent3 Sep 2013 #112
The HSCA also concluded that Lee Harvey Oswald killed Kennedy Major Nikon Sep 2013 #97
Pick up a book sometime. avaistheone1 Sep 2013 #72
Dear me, do so many people believe in official fairy tales? JackRiddler Sep 2013 #114
Perhaps an option should be "The Right Wing" Coyotl Sep 2013 #20
good point gopiscrap Sep 2013 #22
Has anyone pointed out the proper forum sharp_stick Sep 2013 #24
This is the proper forum. avaistheone1 Sep 2013 #74
Oswald. Any other answer and you are in the wrong forum!! n-t Logical Sep 2013 #25
Oswald acted alone. ZERO evidence on ANY other scenario. Evidence overwhelming. RBInMaine Sep 2013 #27
In 1986 there was a "movie" On Trial: Lee Harvey Oswald avebury Sep 2013 #60
You couldn't be more wrong. avaistheone1 Sep 2013 #69
How many times do you plan to repeat the same post? mahina Sep 2013 #78
From the HSCA report: nyquil_man Sep 2013 #121
Who killed the Kennedys? Well after all, it was you and me. Motown_Johnny Sep 2013 #32
I could hardly believe this wasn't a choice in the original poll. dimbear Sep 2013 #58
Forgot about that! treestar Sep 2013 #101
53 Reasons It Was Lee Harvey Oswald Bolo Boffin Sep 2013 #34
These are excellent posts from Bolo Boffin cpwm17 Sep 2013 #39
Ask Poppy Bush CrawlingChaos Sep 2013 #35
He's a suspect based on what he told FBI. Octafish Sep 2013 #37
amazing gopiscrap Sep 2013 #45
Correct not much more needs to be said. gordianot Sep 2013 #62
I didn't read that entire post but.. Bay Boy Sep 2013 #106
Poppy Bush reported the threat AFTER President Kennedy was dead. Octafish Sep 2013 #111
Military Industrial Complex and Dixie Octafish Sep 2013 #36
Interesting post! gopiscrap Sep 2013 #44
The fact the biggest number of people voted Oswald gives me hope duffyduff Sep 2013 #38
The sum of the various non-Oswald choices still adds up to more than Oswald Silent3 Sep 2013 #64
Lee Harvey pulled the trigger. Incitatus Sep 2013 #40
so you subscribe to Arlen Specter's lone gunman theory? gopiscrap Sep 2013 #41
I'm not convined either way. Incitatus Sep 2013 #47
Specter is the one who came up with the magic bullet theory gopiscrap Sep 2013 #48
Impossible Bullet Octafish Sep 2013 #91
I think you're right on that point, Octafish! LongTomH Sep 2013 #108
Special Message to the Congress on Protecting the Consumer Interest. Octafish Sep 2013 #117
My fave theory is that Oswald acted alone, but that he was aiming for Connally. Benton D Struckcheon Sep 2013 #42
Ineteresting I knew the part about Connelly but I never knew that gopiscrap Sep 2013 #43
I've thought that since I was a kid reading that letter in the Warren report. trackfan Sep 2013 #67
Werner Herzog once gave a long speech about how good the Warren Commission report is Recursion Sep 2013 #46
Hunter S. Thompson and It was an Accident. Wolf Frankula Sep 2013 #49
how do you figure? gopiscrap Sep 2013 #50
Rumor Has It he Said so. Wolf Frankula Sep 2013 #57
Had a chance to see the scene in Dallas treestar Sep 2013 #102
50 years later Niceguy1 Sep 2013 #51
actually it does matter gopiscrap Sep 2013 #52
No. It does. Iggo Sep 2013 #54
Why not? avaistheone1 Sep 2013 #70
He said it doesn't matter, and I said "No. It does (matter)." Iggo Sep 2013 #75
How can you say that? avaistheone1 Sep 2013 #71
No Cuba? joshcryer Sep 2013 #56
How can we possibly tell when the PTB compromised or hid so much evidence? n/t eridani Sep 2013 #59
I wish I knew. Blue_In_AK Sep 2013 #66
JFK. Albiet a JFK from an alternate timeline where he survived the assasination attmept... TheMightyFavog Sep 2013 #68
Cuba, CIA, Mafia triangle. defacto7 Sep 2013 #76
I do not know, but the story told by the state smells like poo-poo. n/t PowerToThePeople Sep 2013 #77
Skull and Bones Society B Calm Sep 2013 #79
This vote shows the lack of persuasive skills Lone-nutters have nt Stupefacto Sep 2013 #80
Garrison was RIGHT DiverDave Sep 2013 #81
I believe it was the same shadowy crew of covert operatives deutsey Sep 2013 #82
Other Hayduke Bomgarte Sep 2013 #86
There were two gunmen Taverner Sep 2013 #95
Oswald treestar Sep 2013 #100
The only reason I went with the CIA is Rex Sep 2013 #103
As long as we're prancing far afield with every option for creative speculation, why not include MADem Sep 2013 #104
Get rid of all that garnish. JackRiddler Sep 2013 #113
It was Oswald, working for the CIA The Second Stone Sep 2013 #118
this amazes me that I would get this much response to the poll question gopiscrap Sep 2013 #119
I thought only right-wingers believed conspiracy theories to this sort of extent. PlanetaryOrbit Sep 2013 #120
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