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DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
124. I agree completely.....
Mon Sep 16, 2013, 03:08 AM
Sep 2013

...and came to this conclusion way back in DU2.

Look at it this way. Let's say we're all in a bar. It's a real nice bar that serves democratic-progressive-leaning people, along with members of Democratic Party. It's got Buffalo Wings on Friday nights, and great cold crisp beer (all BYO). And it's got all kinds of rooms in it. Rooms for the astrology and alternative healing folks. And a place where geeks can can feel free to let their hair down and talk nerdy to each other. It's got places to swap recipes and to talk about photography. It's got the union room and the armed-liberals hangout as well. It's got it all.

And yet even with all this, there are people that must be Ignored. It's not a perfect system to place someone on Ignore. It's a personal choice. Like deciding whether to go into a BOG thread. You know there's a risk the most innocent remark could get you banned for life. So you decide it just ain't worth it. It's their echo-chamber and their loss, let 'em have it. I have no skin in their game. No loss here.

It's just like when you get to decide IRL who you'll give your time and energy to if this were a real bar. Sometimes the people you have the least time for, could turn out to be worth getting to know. So its not a foolproof system by any means. The question is whether you want to take the time to find that elusive nugget of gold among all the layers you may have to go through to find it. But like I said, it's a personal choice. And for me, my health ain't that good anymore so time is of the essence. I have to take my shots at looking at this crazy setup we got going here, when I can. And I've no time to waste.

But I think this attitude that I and many others have is borne of the fact that there's a new realization settling-in, globally. A new consciousness that understands that the time for bullshit is over. That there's only so many times that we have to keep turning the crank to realize that it ain't working. So I don't have time for people promoting the same old-ass ideas, the same old-ass practices and the same old-ass institutions that have failed us and have us mired in the hole that we're all presently in.

- You remember the bar scene in Star Wars? Yeah, that's what I mean......


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No, it's good news. ProSense Sep 2013 #1
oh put those silly people on Ignore, William Skittles Sep 2013 #2
'Oh, I used to be disgusted. And now I try to be amused...' KG Sep 2013 #3
You and me both. NuclearDem Sep 2013 #4
Bad nominee withdraws... SidDithers Sep 2013 #5
Bad Nominee bandied about, Democrats everywhere practice democracy by giving their Bluenorthwest Sep 2013 #10
+1 bigtree Sep 2013 #11
Thank you, well said! (nt) scarletwoman Sep 2013 #13
It is important to take the time to explain our political system to visitors like Sid who Bluenorthwest Sep 2013 #22
You are indeed correct. It would be unkind to leave them in the dark about how our democracy scarletwoman Sep 2013 #29
oh, no. how it works is wait something happens, so you can be told you only object coz of your KG Sep 2013 #37
I was told that the opposition to Summers was 'abject hatred' Bluenorthwest Sep 2013 #60
Very true. Starry Messenger Sep 2013 #48
I dont think that will work. He apparently seeks a utopian DU where everyone loves the President rhett o rick Sep 2013 #140
It is a pleasant surprise when our elected representatives actually represent us. IronLionZion Sep 2013 #143
Thank you! Safetykitten Sep 2013 #28
+1000 nt Mojorabbit Sep 2013 #53
Nice. Le Taz Hot Sep 2013 #129
Bad nominee was critical member of team before he was bad nominee. rug Sep 2013 #17
"faced down the worst economic crisis"... sendero Sep 2013 #86
sorry to disappoint, but all I've seen so far is celebration. magical thyme Sep 2013 #19
Amazing Cryptoad Sep 2013 #26
.... DeSwiss Sep 2013 #33
Snort, chortle, whoop! nt Vanje Sep 2013 #39
epic. KG Sep 2013 #43
Nice. Phlem Sep 2013 #70
So true.... QC Sep 2013 #91
Give him credit, he did something besides kick a Prosense screed. RetroLounge Sep 2013 #105
Post removed Post removed Sep 2013 #123
If he was a bad nominee quakerboy Sep 2013 #59
I doubt I will move shift. Rex Sep 2013 #114
No one said he would necessarily be the next Fed Chairman . . . markpkessinger Sep 2013 #142
And that my friends, is the POINT. (what you said mark) 2banon Sep 2013 #145
^^THIS^^ -nt- Celefin Sep 2013 #162
Perhaps if you find the way Puglover Sep 2013 #153
Well said! It gets very tiresome being derided by someone who doesn't even live here. scarletwoman Sep 2013 #156
Yep Scarletwoman. Puglover Sep 2013 #165
Please!! Perhaps some Canadians wouldn't benefit from that. delrem Sep 2013 #185
Great job of mimicking the illustration in the OP! delrem Sep 2013 #184
Truly ignore is your friend nadinbrzezinski Sep 2013 #6
It also excludes the ignored from jury duty bullshit on you. My excluded list is full and... L0oniX Sep 2013 #18
I am not sure if it quite does that nadinbrzezinski Sep 2013 #20
It doesn't work like that, sorry. Just the opposite, in fact. scarletwoman Sep 2013 #34
That is excellent advise.... Isoldeblue Sep 2013 #69
I agree completely..... DeSwiss Sep 2013 #124
Speaking of nerds... nadinbrzezinski Sep 2013 #138
+++++++.... exactly 2banon Sep 2013 #147
Yeah, it's derpville sometimes. progressoid Sep 2013 #7
Hugh Laurie as Bertie Wooster? longship Sep 2013 #176
Yes! progressoid Sep 2013 #179
Yup! I watched it on PBS, then gotthe videos from my library. longship Sep 2013 #180
Oh don't worry, I predict that they will have a new "Obama plans to ????" to generate outrage OregonBlue Sep 2013 #8
Yep Vanje Sep 2013 #44
<3 Marrah_G Sep 2013 #133
Perfect. Celefin Sep 2013 #163
The thing is, you missed the democracy party. This was months in the making. Bluenorthwest Sep 2013 #65
They must think Isoldeblue Sep 2013 #74
Who do you think we are? Teabaggers? Jack Rabbit Sep 2013 #149
no attack on Syria - obvious defeat for those who opposed an attack on Syria Douglas Carpenter Sep 2013 #9
Seriously. A DU member recently posited that the anti-invasion people are sad..... Vanje Sep 2013 #46
they're so dizzy from spinning they don't know whether to shit or wind their watch. KG Sep 2013 #54
Some-are-Half-the-Way Vanje Sep 2013 #58
sure glad Obama didn't push single-payer - because if he had I wouldn't be able to fault him for Douglas Carpenter Sep 2013 #95
I'm very happy... onyourleft Sep 2013 #111
Exactly...I was very active in the anti-war movement before Iraq deutsey Sep 2013 #134
Good post! hammer, nail, SMACK delrem Sep 2013 #173
I know...I think suffered a brain cramp trying to follow the contorted "logic" of some here deutsey Sep 2013 #132
I hate to say it but... kentuck Sep 2013 #12
Politics as a team sport has destroyed meaningful discussion here. Nt. Warren Stupidity Sep 2013 #14
this. Ed Suspicious Sep 2013 #31
^^^THAT RIGHT THERE^^^ tkmorris Sep 2013 #38
Bingo. n/t QC Sep 2013 #42
Be true to your school! Vanje Sep 2013 #47
Yep. nt LaydeeBug Sep 2013 #115
Exactly. Jester Messiah Sep 2013 #139
Spot on. Celefin Sep 2013 #164
Lol! rug Sep 2013 #15
snicker mmonk Sep 2013 #16
Summers was never a nominee. n/t Bolo Boffin Sep 2013 #21
That point appears to have flown over sooooo many heads here Number23 Sep 2013 #23
And now he never will be. temporary311 Sep 2013 #27
...He was very close. Vanje Sep 2013 #50
Was he on Obama's list of candidates for the job? ljm2002 Sep 2013 #52
A window into the "guilty until proven innocent" BeyondGeography Sep 2013 #61
His possible nomination has been a serious matter of discussion for months Bluenorthwest Sep 2013 #63
Saying that he was the nominee and was withdrawn is wrong. Bolo Boffin Sep 2013 #68
And that's why Caretha Sep 2013 #170
Then why did he withdraw his name? Why did Obama respond so eloquently to the withdrawal? delrem Sep 2013 #174
Not being the nominee does not mean he was not being considered. Bolo Boffin Sep 2013 #175
OK... since you agree with the vast majority of responses to WP's OP, delrem Sep 2013 #177
There were better choices than Summers IMO. But he wasn't the Fifth Horseman. Bolo Boffin Sep 2013 #178
I've seen no "hyperbole" w.r.t. Summers on DU. delrem Sep 2013 #181
Color me surprised. n/t Bolo Boffin Sep 2013 #182
Well, if that's how you wish to conclude - let it be. delrem Sep 2013 #183
Post your preemptive Summers defense here. ProSense Sep 2013 #24
That is a damned funny thread. Vanje Sep 2013 #51
Incredibly amusing LittleBlue Sep 2013 #25
Huh? You're talking about Summers, right? Th1onein Sep 2013 #30
What's funny is they don't get the point of your post...witness your replies. dkf Sep 2013 #32
Yeah, I noticed that, too. scarletwoman Sep 2013 #35
I'm afraid number 8 really thinks we were defeated Oilwellian Sep 2013 #41
Thanks, Scarlet. Blue_In_AK Sep 2013 #117
LOL! ProSense Sep 2013 #36
Senator Warren sliced off his privates, put them on a plate, and served them to him. nt SDjack Sep 2013 #40
It has been a good week bhikkhu Sep 2013 #45
Agreed! nt Vanje Sep 2013 #56
Dude, you know I love you, but the bad nominee was never actually ... you know ... the nominee. 11 Bravo Sep 2013 #49
Good! Vanje Sep 2013 #57
What exactly was he withdrawing from, and why? quakerboy Sep 2013 #66
It's called Democratic politics. The possibility of his nomination has been an actual Bluenorthwest Sep 2013 #67
The fact he needed to formally withdraw means he was a serious contender, probably the most serious Maven Sep 2013 #101
Thank you. Bobbie Jo Sep 2013 #137
Your accusation of "chronic intellectual dishonesty" on the issue of Summers' potential nomination Maedhros Sep 2013 #144
key word Bobbie Jo Sep 2013 #148
I think you're putting too much effort into a semantic argument: "potential nominee" vs. "nominee" Maedhros Sep 2013 #154
Semantic argument is all they've got. scarletwoman Sep 2013 #157
I can understand their knee-jerk responses. Maedhros Sep 2013 #159
And the prognosticators on this site have been Bobbie Jo Sep 2013 #160
It was the inside-the-Beltway folks who decided Summers was the presumptive nominee. Maedhros Sep 2013 #161
Hence the term Bobbie Jo Sep 2013 #166
Is a response to two months of analysis a "knee jerk" response? [n/t] Maedhros Sep 2013 #167
Yup. Bobbie Jo Sep 2013 #168
I'm not following you... Maedhros Sep 2013 #169
Obviously. Bobbie Jo Sep 2013 #171
I'm not ignoring your point. Maedhros Sep 2013 #172
Resistance in the Senate and public pressure kept him out. pa28 Sep 2013 #55
"I am happily indifferent to the ones who have consistently been wrong" eppur_se_muova Sep 2013 #62
teabaggers won again! snooper2 Sep 2013 #64
So, were you hoping that Summers WOULD get the Fed Chairmanship? scarletwoman Sep 2013 #71
Concern level about Summers, 2.5% snooper2 Sep 2013 #73
"Concern level about Summers, 2.5%" I'm right there with you on that. Number23 Sep 2013 #87
Really? Vanje Sep 2013 #90
"Concern level about Summers, 2.5%" Seems pretty damn self-explanatory "Vanje" Number23 Sep 2013 #93
Well, alright. Since you asked. Vanje Sep 2013 #97
Excellent summary. Blue_In_AK Sep 2013 #118
Thanks! Vanje Sep 2013 #120
Probably not the people who should have. Blue_In_AK Sep 2013 #121
I liked it too. Enthusiast Sep 2013 #125
Good write-up there Vanje. I felt exactly the same BelgianMadCow Sep 2013 #126
So nice of you to take so much time in this. Number23 Sep 2013 #127
You're welcome! Vanje Sep 2013 #130
Wouldn't want to worry your head about our Nations economic future. Vanje Sep 2013 #88
Ooops..... another failure from the Obama bad group! whistler162 Sep 2013 #72
What the hell are you talking about? scarletwoman Sep 2013 #82
They're making my head spin. Blue_In_AK Sep 2013 #119
Ladies and gentlemen, Exhibit A. NuclearDem Sep 2013 #84
WTF are you babbling about? RetroLounge Sep 2013 #106
I feel as if I'm on a middle school playground, Isoldeblue Sep 2013 #75
Obama never loved him, you know. nt grasswire Sep 2013 #78
I wasn't talking about Sommers. Isoldeblue Sep 2013 #80
Its a total mystery what Obama felt about Summers Vanje Sep 2013 #99
That still does not tell the whole story of Isoldeblue Sep 2013 #102
I imagine the selection process for cabinet people and nominees is a team operation. Vanje Sep 2013 #107
I'm old enough LWolf Sep 2013 #83
As am I... Isoldeblue Sep 2013 #89
Yeah anonymity is certainly a mixed bag. n/t PoliticAverse Sep 2013 #110
You got that right. I can't tell if it's getting worse or if the same folks are just piling on more Number23 Sep 2013 #128
You nailed it! Isoldeblue Sep 2013 #155
Oh, it's bad form not to reply to any posts in your OP snooper2 Sep 2013 #76
The cognitive dissonance has proved to be too much for some hard core fan club members quinnox Sep 2013 #77
Same thing in Syria, so why didn't you respond to this thread? snooper2 Sep 2013 #79
I said "some", not all quinnox Sep 2013 #81
Do you stand behind your source? nt gulliver Sep 2013 #85
It is a defeat Summer Hathaway Sep 2013 #92
It is NOT a defeat. There's probably not a single DUer on this board who isn't delighted scarletwoman Sep 2013 #96
Then why are the only people upset Union Scribe Sep 2013 #103
Good question. Rex Sep 2013 #116
? Vanje Sep 2013 #108
I know, right? It's so weird, I can't even begin to fathom the thought process scarletwoman Sep 2013 #109
"Are my methods unsound?" Maedhros Sep 2013 #146
Heh. scarletwoman Sep 2013 #158
"So far, the only people shocked at Summers' "withdrawal" are the pack journos who pushed.. Cha Sep 2013 #122
Some see the world through Obama lenses. morningfog Sep 2013 #94
Obama was absolutely going to nominate him, JoePhilly Sep 2013 #98
And people act as if they didn't say his nomination was written in stone. joshcryer Sep 2013 #100
It's always good when Obama listens to his better angels Union Scribe Sep 2013 #104
K&R&LOL. Egalitarian Thug Sep 2013 #112
Liberals and progressives save the day again! Rex Sep 2013 #113
I guess we know where the balls were dangling on the Summers issue... Whisp Sep 2013 #131
This is an awesome thread Capt. Obvious Sep 2013 #135
Two sads for Obama in less than a month durablend Sep 2013 #136
Just so we're clear on this Will Capn Sunshine Sep 2013 #141
Yup. I think there's some misplaced gloating going on lately. Oh well. n/t pnwmom Sep 2013 #152
You mean "bad potential nominee," right? Unless I missed something, pnwmom Sep 2013 #150
It is good news... awoke_in_2003 Sep 2013 #151
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