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Uh, right. Lots of ways to kill 12 people on a spree without that weapon, HERVEPA Sep 2013 #1
Likely he was a problem with or without legally purchasing the shotgun. dkf Sep 2013 #16
I was reponding to the part of your post below. HERVEPA Sep 2013 #19
Sorry, don't have any guns. dkf Sep 2013 #53
How does an individual having a gun relate to a well-regulated militia? HERVEPA Sep 2013 #64
Mental health is complex. Gun control is easier. JaneyVee Sep 2013 #35
You must be joking. dkf Sep 2013 #55
Nice To See You Latch Onto a Fresh Way To Stir Shit, Ma'am The Magistrate Sep 2013 #2
What a terrific example of the two sides failing to find even a modicum of consensus. NYC_SKP Sep 2013 #7
If they didn't have a body count they wouldn't have anything to use to demand more control Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2013 #10
Guess what? Fewer guns ==> fewer successful suicides also. HERVEPA Sep 2013 #22
Take the gun, leave the illness --or-- take the illness, gun becomes moot Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2013 #28
Nope. HERVEPA Sep 2013 #65
Yeah, hence the "hooked up" comment. 'Cause I can only think with my vagina. Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2013 #66
With You, Sir, I Would Happily Discuss Such Matters The Magistrate Sep 2013 #14
Well, I appreciate that, Sir. NYC_SKP Sep 2013 #17
The Main Tell In The O.P., Sir The Magistrate Sep 2013 #31
You think I'm being insincere in my belief? dkf Sep 2013 #56
I Suspect My Statements Have Been Clear Enough, Ma'am, To Convey My View Un-Mistakeably The Magistrate Sep 2013 #57
You sir, are no true gentleman. dkf Sep 2013 #59
Quite The Contrary, Ma'am: You Pretend To Be A Person With Various Concerns The Magistrate Sep 2013 #60
I'm with you both, NYC_SKP and The Magistrate... OneGrassRoot Sep 2013 #32
^^^ A reasonable approach. Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #38
Loughner, Holmes, Lanza and Alexis were all known well beforehand to have mental health issues. Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2013 #8
And same with Cho (Virginia Tech shooter) as well. n/t devils chaplain Sep 2013 #36
IIRC, the VT murderer was adjudicated mentally incompetent, Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #43
Stirring up shit? How is this not pure common sense? dkf Sep 2013 #18
Do Not Pretend You Do Not Know Your Own Game, Ma'am The Magistrate Sep 2013 #24
Are you still using the stigmata routine? Is it working? Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #33
This One Is Not On Your Side, Ma'am The Magistrate Sep 2013 #37
I was expecting to read the healthcare negligence, and hence the shooting, happened because of ACA. 2ndAmForComputers Sep 2013 #41
you noticed that too, Sir? after the huge meta post, take a hard turn left.. seems now to be dionysus Sep 2013 #48
Hopefully the ACA will change access to mental health care for millions. The NRA-RW always kelliekat44 Sep 2013 #3
Machine Stuttered, Ma'am The Magistrate Sep 2013 #21
Not to be nosy, but what the hell. I think you replied to the wrong person. nt Guy Whitey Corngood Sep 2013 #23
I Did Indeed, Sir The Magistrate Sep 2013 #26
Oh, never mind. Just saw that. nt Guy Whitey Corngood Sep 2013 #27
We need more than the ACA. We need to rethink the services we provide. dkf Sep 2013 #25
"And still no results?" jberryhill Sep 2013 #4
Well not for Aaron Alexis obviously. dkf Sep 2013 #29
WTF is the point of your OP? jberryhill Sep 2013 #39
We need to improve the system to identify potential mass killers, and treat them humanely dkf Sep 2013 #70
First, there is no such "system" jberryhill Sep 2013 #73
I'm not talking about involuntary detainment. dkf Sep 2013 #74
Mental health care is minimally available, at best, MineralMan Sep 2013 #5
It seems like oversimplification if the system makes it too complicated. dkf Sep 2013 #34
Indeed. We do need better mental health care. MineralMan Sep 2013 #42
I'm for single payer but since that's been overridden... dkf Sep 2013 #49
+1 we really do need better and more mental health care in the US and LiberalLoner Sep 2013 #54
In Some Cases RobinA Sep 2013 #61
Exactly. I don't think we have the right model both treatment and funding wise. dkf Sep 2013 #69
Consistent support teams? Who's going to pay for that? TwilightGardener Sep 2013 #6
The Alternative -- We would pay for a War on Guns ala the War on Drugs -- Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2013 #15
We should. dkf Sep 2013 #51
Because Reaganites have been gutting the mental health system for 30+ years. Dash87 Sep 2013 #9
Yep. jsr Sep 2013 #11
The NRA should be the #1 booster of ACA given their *concerns* about mental health care Proud Liberal Dem Sep 2013 #12
The ACA isn't good enough. Alexis had the VA...he had access. dkf Sep 2013 #40
He didn't use an AR-15 B2G Sep 2013 #13
James Holmes did. nt Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2013 #20
Which only proves that B2G Sep 2013 #30
Nothing will ever stop anything 100%. Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2013 #44
Maybe for the person in question but if that's an excuse to ban a gun for the population... dkf Sep 2013 #47
No it won't. dkf Sep 2013 #46
i didn't know Biden had a favorite spree killing weapon. dionysus Sep 2013 #50
Joe Biden Says No Need To Own Assault Weapons: 'Buy A Shotgun!' dkf Sep 2013 #52
a waiting period like we have in california certainly wouldn't hurt.. frylock Sep 2013 #63
Might not hurt but likely wouldn't have helped B2G Sep 2013 #68
And the VT murderer didn't. Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #45
"Shouldn't it be more obvious to mental health providers by now..." Brickbat Sep 2013 #58
I'm A Provider RobinA Sep 2013 #62
Start with Reagan nadinbrzezinski Sep 2013 #67
Yet it needs to. dkf Sep 2013 #71
In some cases it would be as simple as mental health screens nadinbrzezinski Sep 2013 #72
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