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PeaceNikki

(27,985 posts)

63. I believe there should be ZERO restrictions on abortion. None. Nada.

Reply to Gov101 (Original post)

Wed Sep 18, 2013, 03:21 PM

Sep 2013

On January 28, 2013, Canada celebrated 25 years of TOTAL reproductive freedom. Since their Supreme Court struck down Canada's abortion law in 1988, the country's experience is proof that laws against abortion are unnecessary. A full generation of Canadians has lived without a law and we are better off because of it.

Canada is the first country in the world to prove that abortion care can be ethically and effectively managed as part of standard healthcare practice, without being controlled by any civil or criminal law. Our success is a role model to the world.

After 25 years with no legal restrictions on abortion whatsoever:
- Doctors and women handle abortion care responsibly.
- Abortion rates are fairly low and have steadily declined since 1997.
- Almost all abortions occur early in pregnancy.
- Maternal deaths and complications from abortion are very low.
- Abortion care is fully funded and integrated into the healthcare system (improving accessibility and safety).
- Further legal precedents have advanced women's equality by affirming an
unrestricted right to abortion.
- Public support for abortion rights has increased.

Responsible abortion care: Since 1988, the Canadian Medical Association (CMA) has successfully managed abortion just as it does for every other medical procedure -- by applying policy and encouraging medical discretion for doctors, subject to a standard code of ethics.

Doctors abide by CMA policy and guidelines, and follow best medical practices based on validated research and clinical protocols. Criminal laws are inappropriate and harmful in medicine because they constrain care and negatively impact the health of patients.

Much more at link: http://www.rabble.ca/columnists/2013/01/benefits-decriminalizing-abortion

Joyce Arthur is the founder and Executive Director of Canada's national pro-choice group, the Abortion Rights Coalition of Canada (ARCC), which protects the legal right to abortion on request and works to improve access to quality abortion services.

See more of her work here:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/06/06/343745/-Repeal-All-Abortion-Laws
http://mypage.direct.ca/w/writer/writing.html

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When a Pregnancy is Unwanted... [View all] Gov101 Sep 2013 OP

it's the woman's decision Skittles Sep 2013 #1

YES INDEED bettyellen Sep 2013 #4

Only the woman can make this decision newfie11 Sep 2013 #11

Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2013 #25

Of course it's okay for the woman to do just that. Sheldon Cooper Sep 2013 #26

Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2013 #28

She didn't tell you how to feel. smokey nj Sep 2013 #33

You'll no doubt be astonished to learn that I am in fact a woman. Sheldon Cooper Sep 2013 #34

No, that's not the end of the story. The OP also asks whether society pnwmom Sep 2013 #36

Correct Ohio Joe Sep 2013 #50

agreed 100% steve2470 Sep 2013 #72

Four words...HER CHOICE....NOT MINE. shraby Sep 2013 #2

easy bettyellen Sep 2013 #3

It's the woman's choice. Lugnut Sep 2013 #5

I agree. I am 100% pro choice. n/t RebelOne Sep 2013 #55

Interesting questions. Summer Hathaway Sep 2013 #6

What "government class" would that be? Taught by "the government" or about how government works? Hekate Sep 2013 #7

Me too. djean111 Sep 2013 #9

no sh** Skittles Sep 2013 #12

Perhaps I'm not paranoid enough to know what you're asking... Gov101 Sep 2013 #38

I hope you check back for the answers you've provoked. It's not "paranoia": we get trolls Hekate Sep 2013 #45

Answers: petronius Sep 2013 #8

If your're not the one who is pregnant, SheilaT Sep 2013 #10

love your response blueamy66 Sep 2013 #17

I'm not getting it. Mushroom Sep 2013 #13

How complete strangers deal with unwanted pregnancies is none of my concern. Frankly, smokey nj Sep 2013 #14

If this is for a class assignment deutsey Sep 2013 #15

A, B and C blueamy66 Sep 2013 #16

I read your profile and journal, and I wanted to say I am sorry LiberalLoner Sep 2013 #18

I can think of some big limitations for A Nevernose Sep 2013 #19

If the state can prevent a woman from determining what to do (or not to do) with her pregnancy Proud Liberal Dem Sep 2013 #20

+1 and because social pressures exist to push women away from LiberalLoner Sep 2013 #22

Right Proud Liberal Dem Sep 2013 #24

+1! LiberalLoner Sep 2013 #41

Once the child is born she has rights too me b zola Sep 2013 #48

I agree with this, certainly! I was the product of an affair outside the marriage and LiberalLoner Sep 2013 #51

. LWolf Sep 2013 #21

The individual woman decides. That's it. MineralMan Sep 2013 #23

First, you gather the men folk all together ... JoePhilly Sep 2013 #27

As a woman myself... one who has had unintended pregnancies..... ejpoeta Sep 2013 #29

I agree with that. Woman's choice and only woman's choice until viability. (Edited to answer quests) stevenleser Sep 2013 #31

I think you should consider carefully the enlightenment Sep 2013 #39

I disagree completely. This is a debate I have had a few times with people. stevenleser Sep 2013 #43

You're right. We disagree. enlightenment Sep 2013 #46

Yes, we disagree. I don't think the appeals courts will agree with your interpretations. stevenleser Sep 2013 #47

Good thing I never said they would. enlightenment Sep 2013 #58

I agree to a point LostOne4Ever Sep 2013 #57

It would be very interesting to see what would happen regarding you last point which is right on. stevenleser Sep 2013 #60

Steven, the artificial placenta takes us to an interesting excursion into bioethics... Hekate Sep 2013 #64

At work so I will have to read this later to give it the attention it deserves... nt stevenleser Sep 2013 #66

You're the only one here besides me who answered the second question. pnwmom Sep 2013 #42

Yep, a few more after us did since then... stevenleser Sep 2013 #44

Question, do you know of any doctors who perform abortions on viable fetuses... Hippo_Tron Sep 2013 #75

I am not saying it happens. I am saying that until the fetus can survive outside the womb, ejpoeta Sep 2013 #86

None, no, no Major Nikon Sep 2013 #30

It's a woman's choice. That's all. Autumn Sep 2013 #32

Answers: JaneyVee Sep 2013 #35

Woman's choice, between her and doctor. Lars39 Sep 2013 #37

I find the term "reproductive politics" REPULSIVE, not stale. Avalux Sep 2013 #40

Three answers. lapislzi Sep 2013 #49

^ ^ Agree with this ^ ^ but would add: Arugula Latte Sep 2013 #52

P.S.: Men who oppose a woman's right to abortion can simply go fuck themselves. Arugula Latte Sep 2013 #53

What you said, x 2 lapislzi Sep 2013 #54

Three related questions LostOne4Ever Sep 2013 #56

100% the woman's decision. Blue_In_AK Sep 2013 #59

Wow--I haven't seen a double post since DU2!!! MADem Sep 2013 #61

Not your uterus? Not your business. MADem Sep 2013 #62

I believe there should be ZERO restrictions on abortion. None. Nada. PeaceNikki Sep 2013 #63

Blackmun got it right. lumberjack_jeff Sep 2013 #65

Morality? Raffi Ella Sep 2013 #67

Frankly, none of that is relevant. Gov101 Sep 2013 #68

And you're their teacher and allowed the morality question, got it. Raffi Ella Sep 2013 #70

Funny how your comments are replete with moral assumptions. I assume you realize this? Gov101 Sep 2013 #80

lol. Raffi Ella Sep 2013 #82

On both boards I responded to accusations that the questions were biased, for opposite reasons. Gov101 Sep 2013 #83

^^^^^^^^^^!!!!!!! Precisely Sep 2013 #69

Thanks for the support~ Raffi Ella Sep 2013 #77

So well put Precisely Sep 2013 #79

It's the woman's private decision and not for anyone to limit or to judge. n/t cynatnite Sep 2013 #71

WOW...since we tried to have a conversation with you in previous posts of yours and... Tikki Sep 2013 #73

Thanks for letting us know that Hekate Sep 2013 #84

none, yes, and no elehhhhna Sep 2013 #74

When said woman will be expelled from her Christian college if she gets pregnant. Been there done jwirr Sep 2013 #76

happy that students are seriously discussing this handmade34 Sep 2013 #78

As long as I'm not paying for anything, its not my business marshall Sep 2013 #81

Bodily Autonomy Lancero Sep 2013 #85