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In the discussion thread: The defenders on the TPP: "You don't know that" and "It's just speculation". Bullfuckingshit. [View all]

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Wed Sep 18, 2013, 11:22 PM

TheJames (120 posts)

161. I came across this,

and was a bit amazed. This makes a lot of sense out of the, "They were elites, themselves" meme.

[link:HTTP://truth-out.org/news/item/14489-lifting-the-veil-of-mirage-democracy-in-the-united-states|

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The defenders on the TPP: "You don't know that" and "It's just speculation". Bullfuckingshit. [View all]	cali	Sep 2013	OP
I noticed that too. Here is a leaked draft of the TPP sister, the transatlantic version	BelgianMadCow	Sep 2013	#1
You know the drill, cali - "it's all speculation" until	Democracyinkind	Sep 2013	#2
It's speculation until it's "old news."	morningfog	Sep 2013	#3
Or speculation until its "compromise"...	grahamhgreen	Sep 2013	#5
or it's speculation until "we can fix it later."	magical thyme	Sep 2013	#132
At that point, discussing it would be nothing but "shit stirring," right?	merrily	Sep 2013	#18
Yep. but I'm going to call the Zombie Apologists out on their crap every fucking time	cali	Sep 2013	#4
My recs shall be with you!	Democracyinkind	Sep 2013	#6
hey, thanks!	cali	Sep 2013	#7
May the recs be with you! Mine always is. Thanks for all you do!	Divernan	Sep 2013	#13
Thank you, Divernan. For everything.	cali	Sep 2013	#20
Zombie apologists. I like it! It drives me crazy around here, the way RW shit gets passed and we	Nay	Sep 2013	#33
The Zombie Apologists - glad to finally have a name for them,	Raksha	Sep 2013	#67
Maybe we should start a fund to deprogram these poor afflicted folks	cali	Sep 2013	#74
Good idea - it isn't hard to identify them.	Raksha	Sep 2013	#77
Hear, hear. nt	woo me with science	Sep 2013	#170
It's all speculation until we figure Congress or Republicans or someone forced him into it.	merrily	Sep 2013	#14
Pass it now, fix it later.	obxhead	Sep 2013	#36
+1	proverbialwisdom	Sep 2013	#38
Thanks - I left that one off my list of zombie lines.	Raksha	Sep 2013	#68
The Toilet Paper Pact - wiping their asses with the American dream.	grahamhgreen	Sep 2013	#143
kick! - n/t	Locrian	Sep 2013	#8
k&r . . .n/t	annabanana	Sep 2013	#9
If not enough is known . . .	another_liberal	Sep 2013	#10
Did the Framers contemplate Senate confirmation as a rubber stamp, after the fact?	merrily	Sep 2013	#15
Agreed.	another_liberal	Sep 2013	#17
Foresight or hindsight?	merrily	Sep 2013	#21
I came across this,	TheJames	Sep 2013	#161
When it finally collapses and leaves corporations destitute.....	Rain Mcloud	Sep 2013	#11
You think the TPP will leave corporations destitute?	merrily	Sep 2013	#16
Pity the poor Corporations!	BuelahWitch	Sep 2013	#90
The planned TPP is more evidence the corporations call the shots in our society....	JohnyCanuck	Sep 2013	#12
Yep. Here's a look at Obama's choice: Chief Ag Negotiator for the USTR. Sickening	cali	Sep 2013	#19
that IS quite sickening	G_j	Sep 2013	#39
Isn't it though? And this was someone the President CHOSE	cali	Sep 2013	#43
Aw, Cali.	bvar22	Sep 2013	#97
"Hater"	tblue	Sep 2013	#125
use to think they were just feigning ignorance. come to realize it is willful.	KG	Sep 2013	#22
by and large, I think it is willful	cali	Sep 2013	#23
That's true, I think.	Jackpine Radical	Sep 2013	#37
epic	KG	Sep 2013	#41
You have a link for that?	pscot	Sep 2013	#106
Perhaps some are that unintelligent and easily led, but I assure you I could mimic them and get work	Dragonfli	Sep 2013	#72
OIW - Because Obama!	KG	Sep 2013	#88
Hilarious!!	beerandjesus	Sep 2013	#92
You should post that as a stand alone OP without a "sarcasm" tag!	bvar22	Sep 2013	#108
yes.	Vanje	Sep 2013	#136
Done, let's see if it gets even one rec	Dragonfli	Sep 2013	#174
11 at this time.	AnotherMcIntosh	Sep 2013	#177
21 now. And from some really STRONG Obama supporters too!	Number23	Sep 2013	#178
Just as I suspected. Some Obama supporters are satire impaired. It's something that cannot be cured.	AnotherMcIntosh	Sep 2013	#179
It was implied that if that person made that into an OP, it would get recs presumably from	Number23	Sep 2013	#182
Rec	AnotherMcIntosh	Sep 2013	#171
Done	Dragonfli	Sep 2013	#175
I just tried but found I am forbidden to post in GD due to my answer to a nuisance poster	Dragonfli	Sep 2013	#173
Done, finally:	Dragonfli	Sep 2013	#176
Well said, Dragonfli! Good Read!	KoKo	Sep 2013	#114
I have a serious soft spot for smar asses.	cali	Sep 2013	#120
Excellent post! nt	adirondacker	Sep 2013	#162
I think that some try to make their lives easier by choosing to believe some things with blind faith	rhett o rick	Sep 2013	#119
They are unable to discern principled opposition to the President	Maedhros	Sep 2013	#121
I think they can discern. They use comparison of opposition to something terrible	rhett o rick	Sep 2013	#127
The sociopaths that have been cultivated	dotymed	Sep 2013	#32
Secret negotiations with secret (Corporate) provisions ....	unhappycamper	Sep 2013	#24
Secret negotiations with secret (Corporate) provisions...	bvar22	Sep 2013	#109
From "They Thought They Were Free: The Germans 1933-1945" by Milton Mayer	Maedhros	Sep 2013	#122
Chillingly on point! Sounds like the Zombie bible!	Divernan	Sep 2013	#142
Human behavior doesn't change that much over the span of only a few decades.[n/t]	Maedhros	Sep 2013	#163
Sounds a lot like the	MuseRider	Sep 2013	#129
Kicked and Recommended! nt	Enthusiast	Sep 2013	#25
We studied it a bit in school	laundry_queen	Sep 2013	#26
K & R	AzDar	Sep 2013	#27
K & R !!!!!!!	djean111	Sep 2013	#28
K&R	AnotherMcIntosh	Sep 2013	#29
AnotherMcIntosh we do.	dotymed	Sep 2013	#49
"1%" is, of course, a shorthand expression for the elite rich and the super-rich.	AnotherMcIntosh	Sep 2013	#54
I agree.	dotymed	Sep 2013	#169
I thought investors were suppose to take risks to reap financial rewards...	KansDem	Sep 2013	#30
You just hate Obama.	WilliamPitt	Sep 2013	#31
When you're right, you're right, and this hits it right on the head. K&R	11 Bravo	Sep 2013	#34
"Nobody could have anticipated....."	Roland99	Sep 2013	#35
This.	blackspade	Sep 2013	#40
Good thread, cali.	woo me with science	Sep 2013	#42
And none of the trade agreements since NAFTA have had provision on labor rights and the environment.	pampango	Sep 2013	#44
the problem is that even if it does have some protections	cali	Sep 2013	#46
If "they are", I agree with you.	pampango	Sep 2013	#48
The burden of proof is on Obama to reveal proposals & his position on same NOW!	Divernan	Sep 2013	#52
I think it is equally plausible that Obama is keeping provisions that House republicans will hate	pampango	Sep 2013	#56
I think a simple majority of both chambers is unconstitutional.	Divernan	Sep 2013	#65
That may be but it is the procedure used for all trade treaties.	pampango	Sep 2013	#76
The flaw in your theory	Kermitt Gribble	Sep 2013	#135
Yes, he's posted this same stuff elsewhere	dreamnightwind	Sep 2013	#164
1000%! Protections/regulations are worth shit when:	Divernan	Sep 2013	#50
Good Points, "Divernan"!	KoKo	Sep 2013	#113
You apparently enjoy a) lying and b) propaganda	brentspeak	Sep 2013	#147
Thank you for this post	dreamnightwind	Sep 2013	#165
once something is law it's hard to change. price gouge drug prices have to be stopped	Sunlei	Sep 2013	#45
At least TPP supporters are easy to spot. Anyone with a Wall St portfolio.	raouldukelives	Sep 2013	#47
Not everybody with a stock portfolio is in favor of the damned shitty trade deal.	Chan790	Sep 2013	#64
They may not be, but every dollar in the markets is a vote of confidence for more of the same.	raouldukelives	Sep 2013	#81
There is no other place to put money short of RE speculation.	Chan790	Sep 2013	#82
Well, I seriously beg to differ that RE specualtion is worse than Halliburton.	raouldukelives	Sep 2013	#172
And the Jury voted 0-6 to LEAVE IT.	Autumn	Sep 2013	#51
HAH! Take that, Zombie alerter!	Divernan	Sep 2013	#55
Lol. I knew "Zombie Apologist" was likely to get some people in a lather	cali	Sep 2013	#58
It certainly did get someone in a lather.	Autumn	Sep 2013	#60
Wow. They tried to get this deleted, huh?	Marr	Sep 2013	#62
The censorship system defeated ...need this to happen more often.	L0oniX	Sep 2013	#70
Hah...someone alerted and got voted down.	Raksha	Sep 2013	#75
They have no argument. Ridicule and the rofl emoticon is all they have. They must	rhett o rick	Sep 2013	#128
Excellent post cali - TPP needs to die. nt	TBF	Sep 2013	#53
Great post, Cali	Oilwellian	Sep 2013	#57
I didn't realize there were any defenders of the TPP.	Raksha	Sep 2013	#59
Good post cali!	MuseRider	Sep 2013	#61
Seems that	Cryptoad	Sep 2013	#63
seems like you haven't a clue as to what you are talking about, honey.	cali	Sep 2013	#66
LMFAO perfect. n/t	L0oniX	Sep 2013	#69
Sorry	Cryptoad	Sep 2013	#71
sorry, but it's not merely speculative	cali	Sep 2013	#73
But cali. It is speculative. Until it's done	Autumn	Sep 2013	#79
YOu can not be against something before it exist	Cryptoad	Sep 2013	#83
You can keep your head in the sand Crypttoad.	Autumn	Sep 2013	#85
I'll just wait until AFTER the Keystone Pipeline is in place....	Vanje	Sep 2013	#141
Yall will be far more convincing	Cryptoad	Sep 2013	#148
You couldn't convince me the sky was blue if it was a fucking sunny day.	Autumn	Sep 2013	#153
I wish I was as smart as you,,,,,,,	Cryptoad	Sep 2013	#154
You might get there.	Autumn	Sep 2013	#155
geeez,,,,,,	Cryptoad	Sep 2013	#157
that's ridiculous and none too swift.	cali	Sep 2013	#104
Do you feel better if you personally attack other posters.?	Cryptoad	Sep 2013	#149
Says the person who calls others "Obama haters" in this very thread	neverforget	Sep 2013	#151
you dont believe there are people who hate Obama......?	Cryptoad	Sep 2013	#158
you accused others of doing what you have done all the while complaining	neverforget	Sep 2013	#159
another red herring	Cryptoad	Sep 2013	#168
Let me ask you this, did you support ACA before it "existed"?	cui bono	Sep 2013	#112
Beautiful takedown :)	Celefin	Sep 2013	#123
No it would be impossible....	Cryptoad	Sep 2013	#145
....and you can't criticize a Fed nominee, before he's been nominated.....	Vanje	Sep 2013	#139
but nobody has be nominated..... Sure you can criticize people you dont want to nominated	Cryptoad	Sep 2013	#146
You're working very hard.	Vanje	Sep 2013	#152
Thank you	Cryptoad	Sep 2013	#156
Please help, I'm confused.	beerandjesus	Sep 2013	#94
Actually it's because you are a libertarian isolationist Rand Paul worshiper -	Dragonfli	Sep 2013	#103
Depends	Vanje	Sep 2013	#140
"whining Obama Haters"	WorseBeforeBetter	Sep 2013	#78
Are you saying the author of the linked post is an "Obama Hater"?	rhett o rick	Sep 2013	#86
Did I say that? Did you threaten me ?	Cryptoad	Sep 2013	#87
derp,,,,,,	bvar22	Sep 2013	#101
could it possibly be performance art?	KG	Sep 2013	#107
If only. I think it's a bad attempt to start a fight. I dont have anyone on my ignore list but	rhett o rick	Sep 2013	#116
I love you for this, bvar22!	smokey nj	Sep 2013	#115
lol. damned near a perfect summation.	cali	Sep 2013	#118
The question was not directed at you.....	Cryptoad	Sep 2013	#150
Just because someone points a gun at your head doesnt mean they will shoot. Be patient and	rhett o rick	Sep 2013	#80
Is that a threat?	Cryptoad	Sep 2013	#84
it's called a metaphor. yikes.	cali	Sep 2013	#91
I think that's a little hard for some to make the connection.	Autumn	Sep 2013	#96
It's hard because "blind faith" is the easy way out. No thinking required. nm	rhett o rick	Sep 2013	#100
and if the "hair-on-fire" crew every gets something blocked by massive, embarrassing outcry	MisterP	Sep 2013	#89
How is "you don't know that" and "it's speculation" a defense?	joshcryer	Sep 2013	#93
When it allows one to say "Bullfuckingshit."	ProSense	Sep 2013	#95
lol. you seem put out. what a shame.	cali	Sep 2013	#98
I've already	ProSense	Sep 2013	#99
uh, no. you really didn't and virtually no one is buying what YOU peddle.	cali	Sep 2013	#102
Oh, some people are buying what "YOU peddle"	ProSense	Sep 2013	#105
Prosense, have you ever been forclosed upon due to joblessness?	livingwagenow	Sep 2013	#126
Who are you, and what do your questions have to do with my point?	ProSense	Sep 2013	#130
TPP is poison. Thanks for raising awareness. knr nt	livingwagenow	Sep 2013	#110
Leo Gerard was just talking about this on the Ed show - Unions say "NO" to TPP!	NRaleighLiberal	Sep 2013	#111
Recommend!	KoKo	Sep 2013	#117
.	blkmusclmachine	Sep 2013	#124
K&R!	Phlem	Sep 2013	#131
Recommended thread, cali...	MrMickeysMom	Sep 2013	#133
The good news is - all the scorn and scathing put-downs by those who believe everything Obama does	djean111	Sep 2013	#134
Don't tell me; tell your Congress critter. No TTP, NO fast track authority.	Vincardog	Sep 2013	#137
Amen. nt	silvershadow	Sep 2013	#138
The Toilet Paper Pact - wiping their asses with the American dream.	grahamhgreen	Sep 2013	#144
The CORPS...	nikto	Sep 2013	#160
K&R. Thanks for posting this.	JDPriestly	Sep 2013	#166
Well, Hell. What is he thinking?	juajen	Sep 2013	#167
kick	woo me with science	Sep 2013	#180
197 Recs.	woo me with science	Sep 2013	#181

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