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MADem

(135,425 posts)
72. I just don't see any relation between texting and abortion.
Wed Sep 25, 2013, 09:13 AM
Sep 2013

The act of texting behind the wheel is a public safety issue.

Having an abortion carries the same risk as a tooth extraction, and is a personal and private medical decision made by a woman and her doctor--no one else. Texting and driving (drunk or sober) isn't a "medical decision" that a driver makes with their doctor. It's not personal. It's not private. It's a dumbass thing to do that can destroy families.

It's like comparing apples and...footprints.

As for cancer, that's a disease, last time I checked.

If a person rolled in radioactive sludge, like in a Family Guy episode, hoping to get super powers, and instead got cancer, they'd have some responsibility for their condition. However, most people get cancer because of unknowing exposure to a carcinogen or family history/genetic predisposition. Some people get cancer from smoking, but not as many as one would think (the human body is resilient) and the tobacco companies share the blame in addicting people to their product. A smart person would try to quit or switch to a safer form of nicotine delivery.

The issue of "cost" isn't just about money--though that can become a factor when a wage earner dies. There is an emotional cost when someone is killed on the road by a drunk/texter. Families left behind have to pick up the pieces.

When people act in ways that impact more than just themselves, consequences accrue.

It Won't Change Until Americans Have Had Enough cantbeserious Sep 2013 #1
Yep. Gormy Cuss Sep 2013 #22
Unfortunately when they have had enough it will be long too late to do anything. former9thward Sep 2013 #37
k&r for exposure. n/t Laelth Sep 2013 #2
AutoCommonDreamsDURec KG Sep 2013 #3
Two philosophies in conflict with really high stakes: Pholus Sep 2013 #4
Internet - The Aerosol Can of the 21st Century Johnny Ready Sep 2013 #5
EVERYTHING is created before the effect to society is completely understood. randome Sep 2013 #25
[b]The Unknown Unknowns[/b] KoKo Sep 2013 #6
In the last week, Cryptoad Sep 2013 #7
While the invasion of my privacy is not an issue I would change my vote to Romney .... marble falls Sep 2013 #9
yea Romney and the GOP would be doing things alot different! Cryptoad Sep 2013 #14
But the Democrats would be doing something very different if Romney were POTUS Fumesucker Sep 2013 #23
Love those Circular Red Herrings,,,, Cryptoad Sep 2013 #29
More satire, eh? Fumesucker Sep 2013 #31
maybe you will make it,,,,, I will keep my little toad toes crossed for ya! Cryptoad Sep 2013 #33
Reading comprehension much? I loathe Romney. I support the President except on privacy.... marble falls Sep 2013 #36
Obama Haters' seems to crop up in almost every post you make. Autumn Sep 2013 #18
Please reread my comment. I support the Presient except on privacy, Gitmo and..... marble falls Sep 2013 #39
I think your response was meant for crypttoad. Autumn Sep 2013 #41
Sorry! Even gentle critisism of the President brings down a raft of tone deaf .... marble falls Sep 2013 #43
Some genius is going to have to invent the concept of "private internets." MADem Sep 2013 #8
Like connecting directly to the cloud with almost no computer - all you'd need is a screen and ... marble falls Sep 2013 #10
I had a discussion with a military planner - scholar about "virtual reality" MADem Sep 2013 #16
even a direct ip connection has an isp that gathers info & sells that info. Sunlei Sep 2013 #20
Maybe "personal servers". rrneck Sep 2013 #13
My technical skills are probably less honed than yours! MADem Sep 2013 #19
Mesh Net, is what you are talking about. n/t TheJames Sep 2013 #27
Sounds good to me! nt MADem Sep 2013 #28
Are we throwing years of "Keep the Internet Public" out the window???? Cryptoad Sep 2013 #15
Well, that IS a consideration. Perhaps there could be multiple levels of "internet." MADem Sep 2013 #21
The Internet doesn't work that way. jeff47 Sep 2013 #24
And that's how the phone used to work. You picked up the receiver, you cranked the crank, and MADem Sep 2013 #26
No, phones didn't work that way. jeff47 Sep 2013 #30
Not in 1920 it wasn't. MADem Sep 2013 #45
Yes, it really was. jeff47 Sep 2013 #61
I'm afraid you just are not taking my point, for reasons I can't quite fathom. MADem Sep 2013 #62
That's because you aren't bothering to actually read my posts. jeff47 Sep 2013 #65
Your construct involves "the internet" to make the connection, though. MADem Sep 2013 #67
And that's why your construct won't work. jeff47 Sep 2013 #69
No point in continuing this conversation. MADem Sep 2013 #70
I'm not the one locked in jeff47 Sep 2013 #73
Immediate gratification wasn't ever my point. MADem Sep 2013 #74
I'm setting no parameters jeff47 Sep 2013 #75
Well, yeah--you are. Today/for free/the internet are parameters. MADem Sep 2013 #76
No, they're not. I'm using the one condition you started with. jeff47 Sep 2013 #78
I think you need to reread what I wrote, originally. MADem Sep 2013 #79
Depends on what you mean by "an end-to-end single electrical circuit." FarCenter Sep 2013 #49
Funny, though, how many cranks ended up on the interweb! marble falls Sep 2013 #44
OK, you win the thread....! MADem Sep 2013 #46
Yea in a fantasy world Cryptoad Sep 2013 #32
Feel free to provide links. jeff47 Sep 2013 #34
Any commerical OS can provide a backdoor....... Cryptoad Sep 2013 #35
No. jeff47 Sep 2013 #38
No,, just the voice of experience ,,,,,,,,, nt Cryptoad Sep 2013 #40
You can sort of do that now FarCenter Sep 2013 #48
Yes, but what I envision would be much less onerous. MADem Sep 2013 #50
K&R but make no mistake, it's not the technology. Like so many previous wrong turns, Egalitarian Thug Sep 2013 #11
hi MichaelKelley Sep 2013 #12
Keeping out the prying eyes of the government isn't enough. LuvNewcastle Sep 2013 #17
why do I need this? hfojvt Sep 2013 #42
Well, I'm all for the "safety nannies" who tell people to not drink and text while driving. MADem Sep 2013 #47
well who isn't? hfojvt Sep 2013 #52
Well, if your head hit the pavement and you had no medical insurance.... MADem Sep 2013 #53
and yet, for all those people might care about me hfojvt Sep 2013 #55
Wow. MADem Sep 2013 #56
I am pretty sure hfojvt Sep 2013 #58
Again, wow. MADem Sep 2013 #59
The line between care and control is a fine one. Pholus Sep 2013 #60
I just had a loved one killed by someone who felt the rules didn't apply to them. MADem Sep 2013 #63
Sorry to hear that. Pholus Sep 2013 #71
I just don't see any relation between texting and abortion. MADem Sep 2013 #72
So money is greater than freedoms? Where does that stop? What you eat, drink, etc? The Straight Story Sep 2013 #66
Way to miss the point. MADem Sep 2013 #68
There are differences, as you must be able to see. Savannahmann Sep 2013 #51
except there is, or should be hfojvt Sep 2013 #54
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Sep 2013 #57
K & R Quantess Sep 2013 #64
The intent of those who wrote and adopted the US Constitution could not be clearer 99th_Monkey Sep 2013 #77
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