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99th_Monkey

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77. The intent of those who wrote and adopted the US Constitution could not be clearer

Wed Sep 25, 2013, 01:18 PM

Sep 2013

but not clear enough apparently to dissuade rich & powerful from chipping
away at it, bit by bit until it is unrecognizable. "Technological advances" is
only a tiny fig leaf of deniability for the rich & powerful fuckers who couldn't
care less about the law, or civil rights, except to contort it to enrich themselves.

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Destroying the Right to Be Left Alone [View all] xchrom Sep 2013 OP

It Won't Change Until Americans Have Had Enough cantbeserious Sep 2013 #1

Yep. Gormy Cuss Sep 2013 #22

Unfortunately when they have had enough it will be long too late to do anything. former9thward Sep 2013 #37

k&r for exposure. n/t Laelth Sep 2013 #2

AutoCommonDreamsDURec KG Sep 2013 #3

Two philosophies in conflict with really high stakes: Pholus Sep 2013 #4

Internet - The Aerosol Can of the 21st Century Johnny Ready Sep 2013 #5

EVERYTHING is created before the effect to society is completely understood. randome Sep 2013 #25

[b]The Unknown Unknowns[/b] KoKo Sep 2013 #6

In the last week, Cryptoad Sep 2013 #7

While the invasion of my privacy is not an issue I would change my vote to Romney .... marble falls Sep 2013 #9

yea Romney and the GOP would be doing things alot different! Cryptoad Sep 2013 #14

But the Democrats would be doing something very different if Romney were POTUS Fumesucker Sep 2013 #23

Love those Circular Red Herrings,,,, Cryptoad Sep 2013 #29

More satire, eh? Fumesucker Sep 2013 #31

maybe you will make it,,,,, I will keep my little toad toes crossed for ya! Cryptoad Sep 2013 #33

Reading comprehension much? I loathe Romney. I support the President except on privacy.... marble falls Sep 2013 #36

Obama Haters' seems to crop up in almost every post you make. Autumn Sep 2013 #18

Please reread my comment. I support the Presient except on privacy, Gitmo and..... marble falls Sep 2013 #39

I think your response was meant for crypttoad. Autumn Sep 2013 #41

Sorry! Even gentle critisism of the President brings down a raft of tone deaf .... marble falls Sep 2013 #43

Some genius is going to have to invent the concept of "private internets." MADem Sep 2013 #8

Like connecting directly to the cloud with almost no computer - all you'd need is a screen and ... marble falls Sep 2013 #10

I had a discussion with a military planner - scholar about "virtual reality" MADem Sep 2013 #16

even a direct ip connection has an isp that gathers info & sells that info. Sunlei Sep 2013 #20

Maybe "personal servers". rrneck Sep 2013 #13

My technical skills are probably less honed than yours! MADem Sep 2013 #19

Mesh Net, is what you are talking about. n/t TheJames Sep 2013 #27

Sounds good to me! nt MADem Sep 2013 #28

Are we throwing years of "Keep the Internet Public" out the window???? Cryptoad Sep 2013 #15

Well, that IS a consideration. Perhaps there could be multiple levels of "internet." MADem Sep 2013 #21

The Internet doesn't work that way. jeff47 Sep 2013 #24

And that's how the phone used to work. You picked up the receiver, you cranked the crank, and MADem Sep 2013 #26

No, phones didn't work that way. jeff47 Sep 2013 #30

Not in 1920 it wasn't. MADem Sep 2013 #45

Yes, it really was. jeff47 Sep 2013 #61

I'm afraid you just are not taking my point, for reasons I can't quite fathom. MADem Sep 2013 #62

That's because you aren't bothering to actually read my posts. jeff47 Sep 2013 #65

Your construct involves "the internet" to make the connection, though. MADem Sep 2013 #67

And that's why your construct won't work. jeff47 Sep 2013 #69

No point in continuing this conversation. MADem Sep 2013 #70

I'm not the one locked in jeff47 Sep 2013 #73

Immediate gratification wasn't ever my point. MADem Sep 2013 #74

I'm setting no parameters jeff47 Sep 2013 #75

Well, yeah--you are. Today/for free/the internet are parameters. MADem Sep 2013 #76

No, they're not. I'm using the one condition you started with. jeff47 Sep 2013 #78

I think you need to reread what I wrote, originally. MADem Sep 2013 #79

Depends on what you mean by "an end-to-end single electrical circuit." FarCenter Sep 2013 #49

Funny, though, how many cranks ended up on the interweb! marble falls Sep 2013 #44

OK, you win the thread....! MADem Sep 2013 #46

Yea in a fantasy world Cryptoad Sep 2013 #32

Feel free to provide links. jeff47 Sep 2013 #34

Any commerical OS can provide a backdoor....... Cryptoad Sep 2013 #35

No. jeff47 Sep 2013 #38

No,, just the voice of experience ,,,,,,,,, nt Cryptoad Sep 2013 #40

You can sort of do that now FarCenter Sep 2013 #48

Yes, but what I envision would be much less onerous. MADem Sep 2013 #50

K&R but make no mistake, it's not the technology. Like so many previous wrong turns, Egalitarian Thug Sep 2013 #11

hi MichaelKelley Sep 2013 #12

Keeping out the prying eyes of the government isn't enough. LuvNewcastle Sep 2013 #17

why do I need this? hfojvt Sep 2013 #42

Well, I'm all for the "safety nannies" who tell people to not drink and text while driving. MADem Sep 2013 #47

well who isn't? hfojvt Sep 2013 #52

Well, if your head hit the pavement and you had no medical insurance.... MADem Sep 2013 #53

and yet, for all those people might care about me hfojvt Sep 2013 #55

Wow. MADem Sep 2013 #56

I am pretty sure hfojvt Sep 2013 #58

Again, wow. MADem Sep 2013 #59

The line between care and control is a fine one. Pholus Sep 2013 #60

I just had a loved one killed by someone who felt the rules didn't apply to them. MADem Sep 2013 #63

Sorry to hear that. Pholus Sep 2013 #71

I just don't see any relation between texting and abortion. MADem Sep 2013 #72

So money is greater than freedoms? Where does that stop? What you eat, drink, etc? The Straight Story Sep 2013 #66

Way to miss the point. MADem Sep 2013 #68

There are differences, as you must be able to see. Savannahmann Sep 2013 #51

except there is, or should be hfojvt Sep 2013 #54

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Sep 2013 #57

K & R Quantess Sep 2013 #64

The intent of those who wrote and adopted the US Constitution could not be clearer 99th_Monkey Sep 2013 #77