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JackRiddler

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24. Watch out, he almost certainly does.

Sun Sep 29, 2013, 11:58 AM

Sep 2013

This is a very popular and academically sanctioned form of history. For example, tell us how a world war that inevitably came about because of imperialism, capitalism, racism and militarized states in an arms race (sort of like what we have now with the cyber arms-race, among other things) was actually caused by Baron de Blowhard's failure of protocol in communicating with the Marquis de Bullshit at Lord Pisspot's grand ball, etc. etc., all to be documented extensively with archival cites in big, fat square books that win Pulitzers. The Barbara Tuchman school, among others. (And I say that as an admirer - she's a great read!)

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NSA: Shut it down? [View all] JackRiddler Sep 2013 OP

Maybe not. If the info they collect were actually helping thwart enemies of the people, Dark n Stormy Knight Sep 2013 #1

“Nuke the entire site from orbit--it’s the only way to be sure” OnyxCollie Sep 2013 #2

Yup, I trust no "reforms" or promises, blow it away and make every cent of budget allocation public TheKentuckian Sep 2013 #12

Many companies have their data facilities mirrored, hughee99 Sep 2013 #27

Don't, but... Ohio Joe Sep 2013 #3

Pretty much this. Bolo Boffin Sep 2013 #8

Shackle it. cherokeeprogressive Sep 2013 #4

Jail everyone responsible for the current mess hootinholler Sep 2013 #5

Yes, it is a threat to a free society LittleBlue Sep 2013 #6

Kick for votes, midnight central JackRiddler Sep 2013 #7

I'm much more worried about the CIA, but Recursion Sep 2013 #9

CIA: Shut it down. JackRiddler Sep 2013 #10

No, I'd rather have the roaches all in one room Recursion Sep 2013 #11

Interesting view of it. JackRiddler Sep 2013 #14

What if that room of roaches is filled to capacity and it overflows to the rest of the house? Blue_Tires Sep 2013 #35

Also, not to harp on the metaphor... JackRiddler Oct 2013 #41

in my heart I would like to shut it down the same way I would like to shut the Pentagon down and Douglas Carpenter Sep 2013 #13

Perhaps one could.. sendero Sep 2013 #16

No there isn't a way to fix that culture... JackRiddler Sep 2013 #25

I talk like a utopian... JackRiddler Sep 2013 #23

Remember when the current revelations first came out.. sendero Sep 2013 #15

The only example they presented in detail... JackRiddler Sep 2013 #18

The idea that "gentlemen don't read each other's mail" led to WWI & allowed Pearl Harbor to happen. baldguy Sep 2013 #17

No, it didn't. Your initial premise: ridiculous. Microscopic. JackRiddler Sep 2013 #19

I'm guessing you don't know much history, do you? baldguy Sep 2013 #20

Masterful projection. JackRiddler Sep 2013 #21

History of Oil Ace Acme Oct 2013 #40

Please clarify: I seems like you are saying the US could have prevented WWI & WWII by reading mail Taitertots Sep 2013 #22

Watch out, he almost certainly does. JackRiddler Sep 2013 #24

I can't answer cuz I don't know it the NSA actually does anything beneficial for the people Zorra Sep 2013 #26

Keep it with more oversight. ntt rrneck Sep 2013 #28

No. You're naive if you think the NSA doesn't serve a purpose NightWatcher Sep 2013 #29

Of course the NSA serves a purpose! JackRiddler Sep 2013 #33

What about the apparent total confidence that it does nothing treestar Sep 2013 #34

Yes! Turbineguy Sep 2013 #30

Return to the pre-FISA law. Title III of the 1968 Act banned all warrantless domestic wiretapping. leveymg Sep 2013 #31

Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2013 #32

A last kick? JackRiddler Sep 2013 #36

Absolutely! JackRiddler Oct 2013 #37

Almost. JackRiddler Oct 2013 #39

Oct. 1st: 76% of 79 users say "Shut It Down" JackRiddler Oct 2013 #38

timely kick for votes!!! JackRiddler Dec 2013 #42

Oh, so relevant all of a sudden. JackRiddler Apr 2014 #43