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leftstreet

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21. Unless you're forcing people to vote the way you want

Mon Sep 30, 2013, 02:27 PM

Sep 2013

I support delaying the individual mandate of the ACA. The Obama administration had no problem delaying the employer mandate and the caps-on-costs.

They can fund it all they want, fine by me, just delay the mandate

So I can't vote in your push poll

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Do you oppose delaying and defunding Obamacare or not? [View all] CreekDog Sep 2013 OP

Oppose. HappyMe Sep 2013 #1

I think you might want to break down the supports el_bryanto Sep 2013 #2

One cannot divide by zero.nt geek tragedy Sep 2013 #4

this poll isn't about what parts of Obamacare people like and don't like CreekDog Sep 2013 #5

Fair enough - but what do you anticipate the results of your poll will be? el_bryanto Sep 2013 #7

I think it's often helpful to have strong statements of general opinion here on DU CreekDog Sep 2013 #8

For that very reason LostOne4Ever Sep 2013 #16

A poll with a consensus result is not a waste CreekDog Sep 2013 #19

Unless you're forcing people to vote the way you want leftstreet Sep 2013 #21

it's not a push poll, it's the choice that decides if a gov't shutdown happens or not CreekDog Sep 2013 #31

They can not even get a simple CR passed and you want them to pass Single Payer? krawhitham Sep 2013 #9

I want something better than Obamacare. I don't really intend to apologize for that. nt el_bryanto Sep 2013 #22

BUT, do you want to get rid of Obamacare until you get that? CreekDog Sep 2013 #27

No I don't but I can understand how some people might want to el_bryanto Sep 2013 #32

funneling money into the health care system also treats children with cancer CreekDog Sep 2013 #33

Well again that's not my argument - but do you want to prop up a system that helps a few el_bryanto Sep 2013 #35

But Obamacare requires insurance companies to stop denying coverage, TO ALL CreekDog Sep 2013 #36

It also requires everybody to sign up for private insurance with no public option el_bryanto Sep 2013 #37

so you're retracting your statement that insurance companies can deny coverage under Obamacare CreekDog Sep 2013 #40

Yes - we'll see how things go. We'll see if the insurance companies find ways around that. nt el_bryanto Sep 2013 #41

Delay it a Year and you will have your Death Panels... yuiyoshida Sep 2013 #3

I support delaying the individual mandate until everything is set up properly. dkf Sep 2013 #6

but if you were in congress how would you vote on the proposals to delay and defund? CreekDog Sep 2013 #10

I would probably vote to not defund but state openly that I would support a delay in the mandate... dkf Sep 2013 #12

you would "probably" not defund? CreekDog Sep 2013 #26

And your problem with that word is what ................... ? cstanleytech Sep 2013 #48

the "probably" part of helping the poor get Medicaid or sudsidized health care CreekDog Sep 2013 #50

"nobody here should be saying ..." So if suddenly a new proposal cstanleytech Sep 2013 #55

don't play games with me CreekDog Sep 2013 #57

Mmm well I am not advocating undermining this program just that one should always keep an open mind cstanleytech Sep 2013 #67

Ditto-dkf Puzzledtraveller Sep 2013 #11

Where is your vote? RandiFan1290 Sep 2013 #13

I replied above. Not to defund but state my support of delaying the mandate for now. dkf Sep 2013 #14

I have no objection to a small delay if and only if its to make the program better but cstanleytech Sep 2013 #46

removed it from the undecided column CreekDog Sep 2013 #24

+1 leftstreet Sep 2013 #20

Defunding Obamacare is just the tip of what they are holding hostage... SomethingFishy Sep 2013 #15

Kick. Agschmid Sep 2013 #17

I'll bet you thought there would be "no" votes. Stinky The Clown Sep 2013 #18

No. I posted to show that folks here are unified on this. CreekDog Sep 2013 #23

There are two people arguing for delay in other threads who voted "pass" in this thread. geek tragedy Sep 2013 #28

Yeah, I caught that also. Andy823 Sep 2013 #38

It needs to be implemented to be improved. geek tragedy Sep 2013 #39

I notice that poster already has insurance. Rex Sep 2013 #42

pretty clear, isn't it? Pretzel_Warrior Sep 2013 #25

I knew there would be consensus, I didn't know it would be basically unanimous CreekDog Sep 2013 #52

I'm not a big fan of Obamacare Skittles Sep 2013 #29

I think Obamacare is a boondoggle DefenseLawyer Sep 2013 #30

Never negotiate with terrorists. Rex Sep 2013 #34

The construction of the question reminds me of a ballot iniative OmahaBlueDog Sep 2013 #43

it's basically the question that Dems face on Obamacare CreekDog Sep 2013 #44

I was simply making an observation OmahaBlueDog Oct 2013 #76

It's how the votes are happening in Congress. nt geek tragedy Sep 2013 #45

Well, rrneck Sep 2013 #47

perfect joshcryer Sep 2013 #49

I oppose delaying/defunding, but know one seems to know everything in it. ZombieHorde Sep 2013 #51

This message was self-deleted by its author CreekDog Sep 2013 #53

which part will we hate a year from now? CreekDog Sep 2013 #54

It's 3000 pages long. ZombieHorde Sep 2013 #56

are you really trotting out that Republican BS talking point? CreekDog Sep 2013 #59

I have a feeling you're not really sure what I'm saying, ZombieHorde Sep 2013 #63

So you're complaining about what you haven't read and don't know CreekDog Sep 2013 #65

I am not complaining about anything, you big silly. ZombieHorde Sep 2013 #66

The Mandate is an obsene overreach and should be eliminated hansberrym Sep 2013 #58

Do you support single payer or nationalized healthcare? Gravitycollapse Sep 2013 #61

No, do you? hansberrym Sep 2013 #71

hmm.....you're not in favor of the PPACA and you're not in favor of single payer steve2470 Oct 2013 #78

I am in favor of the current system in which the poor receive health care because health providers hansberrym Oct 2013 #81

the emergency room? CreekDog Oct 2013 #83

Oh, Skinner just banned you. LOL CreekDog Oct 2013 #85

Everyone who isn't a Paul-humping Libertarian fuckwit supports the idea that geek tragedy Sep 2013 #62

Congress can regulate our economic decisions? Seriously. n/t hansberrym Sep 2013 #69

Heard of the commerce clause? nt geek tragedy Sep 2013 #70

Yes, and you? hansberrym Sep 2013 #73

heard of the Supreme Court decision in National Federation of Independent Business v. Sebelius ? steve2470 Oct 2013 #79

Did you read it? Apparently not. hansberrym Oct 2013 #80

You're on the wrong website, given your rightwing views geek tragedy Oct 2013 #84

Hell no! lonestarnot Sep 2013 #60

Can I know what it is going to cost me first? Skip Intro Sep 2013 #64

if you support the Democratic position, i'll eat my hat CreekDog Sep 2013 #68

Only people who want delay are Republicans who want to geek tragedy Sep 2013 #72

The poll asks about delay. Skip Intro Sep 2013 #74

I am stating a fact. A vote to delay is a vote to kill. geek tragedy Sep 2013 #75

well there's laughing at people who are being laid off CreekDog Oct 2013 #77

It should have gone into effect SOONER SoCalDem Oct 2013 #82