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Go-Bama! NYC_SKP Oct 2013 #1

Go BAMA! nt msanthrope Oct 2013 #2

Roll Tide! Whiskeytide Oct 2013 #23

Here We Go Steelers, Here We.....oops, sorry. Ikonoklast Oct 2013 #35

I am waving at you... awoke_in_2003 Oct 2013 #117

What's the deal with their OC? Is he clueless? Ikonoklast Oct 2013 #147

A "perfect record"... Whiskeytide Oct 2013 #153

HA ! My Giants have perfect record AND shattering NFL records ! NM_Birder Oct 2013 #173

Bear down, Chicago Bears.... JoDog Oct 2013 #102

CA's silver plan is considerably better than my corporate insurance and less expensive. Warren Stupidity Oct 2013 #3

If that is the case, highly likely your company will drop employer-based... roamer65 Oct 2013 #12

That's kind of the long-term plan. jeff47 Oct 2013 #13

Health care shouldn't be connected to enlightenment Oct 2013 #21

Yes, government options. jeff47 Oct 2013 #37

Then perhaps you should present it enlightenment Oct 2013 #57

Why would California fight that plan? jeff47 Oct 2013 #66

Because the for-profit nature of the enlightenment Oct 2013 #110

Politicians have one primary goal: Get and remain elected. jeff47 Oct 2013 #119

Once people see this and the benefits redstatebluegirl Oct 2013 #4

Gonna cost a lot more than that for us here in Maine. :^( I am dreading losing my medicaid. GreenPartyVoter Oct 2013 #5

You have a Teabag governor who refuses to expand Medicaid or institute the exchanges. Liberal_Stalwart71 Oct 2013 #16

Working on that now. Still wish they weren't taking away MaineCare, though. *blah* GreenPartyVoter Oct 2013 #24

Doesn't matter nobodyspecial Oct 2013 #26

O.K., I get it now. WOW! I am so sorry. That really sucks!!! Liberal_Stalwart71 Oct 2013 #46

We have to get rid of LaPage... SiobhanClancy Oct 2013 #166

Finally, we are last major industrialized nation... roamer65 Oct 2013 #6

Just to quibble... BlueCheese Oct 2013 #98

So poor that their subsidy would pay all or almost all? karynnj Oct 2013 #108

I don't know why exactly people will remain uninsured. BlueCheese Oct 2013 #115

I don't know either - but under the conjecture that they wouldn't karynnj Oct 2013 #130

Part of that pool are the Teabagger eedjits who won't be "forced into" getting health insurance. riqster Oct 2013 #154

Exactly. The ACA relies on Medicaid expansion by the states to cover the most vulnerable, and jtuck004 Oct 2013 #138

Thanks karynnj Oct 2013 #157

This is great news, as this continues to roll out and more are insured the games being played out in Thinkingabout Oct 2013 #7

Cali has good weather too. Hmmm. PowerToThePeople Oct 2013 #8

Twice as much for everything else there... pipoman Oct 2013 #22

In some areas. PowerToThePeople Oct 2013 #25

When I moved to Las Vegas from Anaheim I was shocked to find my auto insurance doubled. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2013 #70

That's the other part of the reason for the shutdown. The GOP must have seen reports that said stevenleser Oct 2013 #9

Great! What about Keefer Oct 2013 #10

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Oh, heavens no. enlightenment Oct 2013 #30

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Covered? So what do they have to do to use that coverage? NoOneMan Oct 2013 #40

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Thats called a straw man. NoOneMan Oct 2013 #82

I'm one of those people who isn't poor enough crim son Oct 2013 #68

Get back to me enlightenment Oct 2013 #61

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Hold up. You are referring to some long-term DUers tkmorris Oct 2013 #89

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Your accusations towards long time DUers is not appreciated Marrah_G Oct 2013 #174

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Actually I am "miffed" because the RI healthcare website isn't working correctly at the moment Marrah_G Oct 2013 #179

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"always the victim"? You don't know me Marrah_G Oct 2013 #182

What is your problem? cui bono Oct 2013 #185

"Obamacare is not going away." NoOneMan Oct 2013 #91

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Im not sure what you are even getting at anymore. Are you? NoOneMan Oct 2013 #104

I'm not trying Keefer Oct 2013 #33

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Those who are subisdized for insurance Ms. Toad Oct 2013 #123

Plus Copays and Deductibles NoOneMan Oct 2013 #11

Because it was so much better to get cancer without insurance. jeff47 Oct 2013 #14

You've just codified non-egalitarian, tiered healthcare that hinges upon self-rationing NoOneMan Oct 2013 #27

No, they noted that you are making assumptions about details of a plan that are not in evidence. nt stevenleser Oct 2013 #44

What assumptions am I making? That the plan has copays and deductibles? NoOneMan Oct 2013 #53

This is the part where I quote Jon Stewart. You're F**king with us, right? stevenleser Oct 2013 #62

Because its been explained as the Bronze 60! NoOneMan Oct 2013 #72

After you already made assumptions and started complaining about it. stevenleser Oct 2013 #74

Its a solid "assumption" based on the price of the coverage stated in the OP NoOneMan Oct 2013 #81

Agree.. Why is this a concept that is so hard for people to understand? Safetykitten Oct 2013 #103

There are certain preventive services that aren't subject to coinsurance and deductibles. Hoyt Oct 2013 #124

My current employers offers an HSA Sheepshank Oct 2013 #116

No NoOneMan Oct 2013 #136

My husbands plan has a $7500 annual out of pocket max Sheepshank Oct 2013 #155

This is correct. They just do not get it. Thank you for explaining this. Safetykitten Oct 2013 #161

History. It is important. jeff47 Oct 2013 #59

... Phentex Oct 2013 #77

Medical tourism is not the same as a government codifying tiered health care NoOneMan Oct 2013 #78

The point of bringing up history is today's system is not eternal. jeff47 Oct 2013 #93

"but instead pressuring our state legislatures to expand and improve it" NoOneMan Oct 2013 #97

Why do you think no one sees the obvious problems? jeff47 Oct 2013 #112

In this day and age nothing is fixed AgingAmerican Oct 2013 #121

Nihilism may be cool, but all it does is help the status quo. (nt) jeff47 Oct 2013 #134

Because I get attacked for pointing them out NoOneMan Oct 2013 #133

You point them out as if they are the end state. jeff47 Oct 2013 #137

In the absence of evidence, you propose the worst possible scenario stevenleser Oct 2013 #19

Lower income familes do not face major medical procedures? NoOneMan Oct 2013 #31

Back up to the part where you commented on the plan when the plan details are not in evidence. nt stevenleser Oct 2013 #42

Back up the part when you make any sense at all NoOneMan Oct 2013 #65

Oh I make sense. I only comment on facts in evidence. I dont imagine things to be upset about. nt stevenleser Oct 2013 #67

Imagine things to get upset about? WTF are you talking about? NoOneMan Oct 2013 #83

And for this particular life, I can finally afford health care coverage when previously I couldn't.. LanternWaste Oct 2013 #69

Yes, but its health care outcomes we need to really focus in on NoOneMan Oct 2013 #85

I completely agree. I am one of those that voiced this throughout. Safetykitten Oct 2013 #90

You make an excellent point. nt DLevine Oct 2013 #101

it is not just the poor questionseverything Oct 2013 #150

True^ Safetykitten Oct 2013 #163

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Even many employer-based healthcare plans had those, too. Ikonoklast Oct 2013 #41

No doubt. Let's just not get ahead of ourselves here NoOneMan Oct 2013 #58

WTF? hunter Oct 2013 #84

Yes, its an improvement! NoOneMan Oct 2013 #87

So your argument is....they were better off before?? cbdo2007 Oct 2013 #92

No, thats your Strawman argument NoOneMan Oct 2013 #94

My argument is facts....your argument is that my argument is a "strawman argument" that cbdo2007 Oct 2013 #96

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LOL - funny how quickly arguments end when you bring up the f word (facts) cbdo2007 Oct 2013 #105

Sounds like them Congress critters..... Historic NY Oct 2013 #152

You're fucking kidding?!??! That's great! I live in Maryland and I expect similar! Liberal_Stalwart71 Oct 2013 #15

Link the plan please. nt Demo_Chris Oct 2013 #17

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Website is down (after sign in) enlightenment Oct 2013 #43

$5k yearly deductible AgingAmerican Oct 2013 #127

Because they need to soak us as much as possible for another year to pad their reserves ... Myrina Oct 2013 #149

"Why did Obama delay the cap on out of pocket expenses until 2015?" The deal...all part of the deal. Safetykitten Oct 2013 #165

Interesting that 4 people making double the money would pay a fraction of what one Bluenorthwest Oct 2013 #29

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So Obamacare is replacing Medicare? leftstreet Oct 2013 #45

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Will seniors face the mandate fine if they don't sign up? leftstreet Oct 2013 #56

Highly unlikely. roamer65 Oct 2013 #63

I think it is more reasonable to assume the OP is speaking about a policy with high Bluenorthwest Oct 2013 #64

100% coverage for my medicare would be 50% of my social security payment madrchsod Oct 2013 #145

My premium and deductible going way up under ACA! cilla4progress Oct 2013 #32

Keep in mind that the enlightenment Oct 2013 #49

That rule has NOT been waived for ALL insurance plans. subterranean Oct 2013 #175

Help me out here... Fix The Stupid Oct 2013 #34

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Quite the contrary... Fix The Stupid Oct 2013 #52

Many factors grantcart Oct 2013 #48

Subsidies, regulated MLR, and usage rates (which will likely drop by percent) NoOneMan Oct 2013 #51

part of it is health insurance companies are limited in non-direct-medical expenses tomm2thumbs Oct 2013 #54

The insurance companies will make it up with more people in the mix NV Whino Oct 2013 #73

Discouraged aroach Oct 2013 #55

I may be wrong it could be that Missouri's governor rejected Obamacare provisions to expand Medicare tomm2thumbs Oct 2013 #71

This is a huge problem for bunnies-mr as well. bunnies Oct 2013 #75

As I understood it you can still go on the marketplace... cynatnite Oct 2013 #111

Yeah. I did a few days ago. bunnies Oct 2013 #118

That sucks... cynatnite Oct 2013 #139

It's really weird that not everyone can buy through the exchange. BlueCheese Oct 2013 #120

I have no idea. bunnies Oct 2013 #122

When I had the training last month Puzzledtraveller Oct 2013 #125

Hopefully though, bunnies Oct 2013 #143

Wait! I just remembered something! bunnies Oct 2013 #76

that's good info tomm2thumbs Oct 2013 #88

Key wording is HIS portion aroach Oct 2013 #158

They break it down by portions? bunnies Oct 2013 #159

I think so unless I'm reading this wrong. aroach Oct 2013 #164

Looks like youre reading it right. bunnies Oct 2013 #167

Looks like I will need a divorce to do that aroach Oct 2013 #176

That really sucks. bunnies Oct 2013 #177

what meds is your son on that is $200/month? cbdo2007 Oct 2013 #95

Autism aroach Oct 2013 #160

I'm sorry for what you are having to go through and hope cbdo2007 Oct 2013 #184

Please also laud the Democrats who put their jobs on the line and lost them efhmc Oct 2013 #80

What? Where is that info from? PeteSelman Oct 2013 #86

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Thank you. PeteSelman Oct 2013 #168

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Go-bama liberal N proud Oct 2013 #106

Welcome to DU andtheBeast!!! GOBAMA!!!! nt LaydeeBug Oct 2013 #107

I see the same argument here that we've seen so many other times. BlueCheese Oct 2013 #113

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Obama delayed the cap on copays and deductibles until 2015 AgingAmerican Oct 2013 #114

No it does not. Hoyt Oct 2013 #129

It means insurers can set their own limits AgingAmerican Oct 2013 #132

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See AgingAmerican Oct 2013 #146

See this... subterranean Oct 2013 #183

Prove it leftstreet Oct 2013 #169

Go-bama! Go-bama! Go-bama! freshwest Oct 2013 #126

Connecticut Health Exchange Autumn Colors Oct 2013 #128

And wait until doctors and hospitals discover that they are going to get paid for ALL their work. JDPriestly Oct 2013 #131

GOOD POINT. Ikonoklast Oct 2013 #148

This? This you just wrote? Fantasy. Safetykitten Oct 2013 #162

Only 'homeless' and 'mentally ill' people can't afford coverage? leftstreet Oct 2013 #170

Welcome to DU, andtheBeast! And GOBAMA!!!!!!!!! calimary Oct 2013 #135

How many Reps/Cons are... Wait Wut Oct 2013 #140

YES!! Bigredhunk Oct 2013 #151

I would never wish for anyone to not be able TxDemChem Oct 2013 #156

Well, actually we did that. Bronze people plans....Platinum plans.... Safetykitten Oct 2013 #172

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