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In reply to the discussion: Greenwald: Approve or Disapprove? [View all]grantcart
(53,061 posts)34. lol that's pretty funny. You do realize that GG wasn't the 1st contact and he had already leaked
material that was widely distributed long before he "came out" publicly with GG. Greenwald did not "break" the story, only the identity.
Before that Snowden had already contacted Laura Poitras and Barton Gellman and was the main source of a series of WP stories.
NPR did a detailed story about the sequence of the original meetings:
http://www.npr.org/2013/09/11/221359323/reporter-had-to-decide-if-snowden-leaks-were-the-real-thing
http://www.npr.org/2013/09/11/221359323/reporter-had-to-decide-if-snowden-leaks-were-the-real-thing
Since the beginning of June, Barton Gellman has been reporting on classified intelligence documents given to him by Edward Snowden, a former National Security Agency contractor. As a result of the Snowden leaks, Gellman and reporter Laura Poitras broke the story of the PRISM program, which mines data from nine U.S. Internet companies, including Microsoft, Yahoo, Google and Facebook.
Gellman, who has been writing for The Washington Post, also found that the NSA has broken privacy rules or overstepped its legal authority thousands of times each year since Congress expanded the agency's powers in 2008. He revealed that the U.S. has conducted cyber-operations against computer networks in foreign countries including Iran, Russia, China and North Korea and reported on the "black budget" used to fund secret programs in America's 16 spy agencies.
"[Snowden] gave these documents, ultimately, to only three journalists. What he said he wanted was for us to use our own judgment and to make sure that his bias was kept out of it so that we could make our own judgment about what was newsworthy and important for the public to know. And he said we should also consider how to avoid harm.
So the facts are that Snowden picked three journalists and developed a repoire with them. Only after that when he made a strategic decision to go "full Monty did he publish via GG.
So yeah "hundreds". Not only are there dozens of qualified American journalists that would have loved to win a Pulitzer (which they will win) there are Australian, Canadian, British and so on.
When GG "published' the full monty he had no problems getting the Guardian to do so.
Your stream of consciousness paranoia about the corporate media notwithstanding there is no evidence that any major outlet wouldn't have loved to have gotten this story. They would have little legal concern as well. While it is against the law to take classified material there is no law against publishing it. The government would have had to try and get an injunction before publication to stop it, something that has only been tried with the Pentagon Papers and failed. As long as the Publisher wasn't involved in actually conspiring to take the material they are on solid first Amendment grounds.
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I'm going to reserve judgment until I read Glenn's excoriation of the Right for the shutdown.....
msanthrope
Oct 2013
#2
Yes, he impersonates real journalists. It's hard to absorb since we don't have too many
sabrina 1
Oct 2013
#48
I listened to all of his lectures or book tours before the snowden story broke. Introduced here
xiamiam
Oct 2013
#15
Would America and the world for that matter be debating FISA's mass collection of metadata
Uncle Joe
Oct 2013
#24
I never said you were anti-Greenwald, I simply asked your opinion as to whether you believe
Uncle Joe
Oct 2013
#26
No, I didn't, I asked a simple straightforward question and I never implied anything in either of my
Uncle Joe
Oct 2013
#45
Greenwald has an agenda: it is to split voters away from the major parties and get them to vote
struggle4progress
Oct 2013
#20
Greenwald is on tape pushing exactly this libertarian organizing tactic in November 2010
struggle4progress
Oct 2013
#51
Since you make an unsupported assertion readers would have to read your mind to know
Bluenorthwest
Oct 2013
#84
I've posted links on that dozens of times in recent years. Here are a couple of examples
struggle4progress
Oct 2013
#95
Neither: GG is a distraction. He is, in effect, the publisher and if he didn't publish
grantcart
Oct 2013
#23
lol that's pretty funny. You do realize that GG wasn't the 1st contact and he had already leaked
grantcart
Oct 2013
#34
There are a whole lot of assumptions in your comment. Eg, I've seen this phrase
sabrina 1
Oct 2013
#42
Some hate Greenwald so they say GG and characterize anyone who supports him
Bluenorthwest
Oct 2013
#87
I first started reading him because of DUers who attacked him for being gay
Bluenorthwest
Oct 2013
#40
Anyone, who attacked Greenwald for being gay, didn't last long here at DU
struggle4progress
Oct 2013
#52
Anyone who wouldn't make absurd claims like "the NSA can watch you as you type"
Recursion
Oct 2013
#58
I don't care who; someone who would have done some basic technical fact-checking on that
Recursion
Oct 2013
#68
LOL DAVID KORN. There's one. For a starter. You've exposed yourself and the reason for your thread.
KittyWampus
Oct 2013
#104
I can come up with a number of better journalists who are actually journalists.
KittyWampus
Oct 2013
#101
Ye shall know them by their insults. They call Greenwald 'GG' now that admins don't let
Bluenorthwest
Oct 2013
#88
Really, is the BOG on this thread in full attack mode? I have been surveying this thread
KittyWampus
Oct 2013
#103
Well, that was when there was no Third Way/DLC, the right wingization of the
sabrina 1
Oct 2013
#109