I think a wonderful compromise to the Government shutdown and debt ceiling controversies is

[Samantha]

8. Are you saying one cannot present a logical argument to an illogical person or persons

and make any traction? If so, I have to agree. But I was just trying to identify a a way out that both sides could agree to that would not leave egg on their faces. Their might be other avenues that might work better.

I also think if this goes to the line and the Republicans refuse to raise the debt limit, all hell is going to break loose. People are hurting now but that would be catastrophic.

Thanks for posting on my thread. If you come up with any other alternatives for ending this in a benign way, I hope you post them here.

Sam